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Posted to dev@devicemap.apache.org by Reza <re...@yahoo.com> on 2013/05/27 22:01:01 UTC
DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
So I was reviewing my upcoming Varnish User Group presentation on device detection with Bertrand and Werner and an interesting point was brought up, DeviceMap is not getting updated with the latest and greatest DDR data.
The OpenDDR data is at 1.18:
https://github.com/OpenDDRdotORG/OpenDDR-Resources
The DeviceMap DDR is using the original 1.15 data contribution:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/openddr/data/src/main/resources/devicedata/
Personally, I feel this data is one of the cornerstones of the project. Here is my point and concern:
-The DeviceMap project should be the primary source for housing and updating the DDR data. Can we please start keeping the data in the DeviceMap SVN upto date?
-We need to better present this data as one of the usable aspects of this project
My second point leads me to my next goal for this project which is to really revamp our website to better convey what this project is about:
-Provided the latest and greatest DDR data, updated monthly. We should have a link present on our hopepage for users to easy download our DDR data
-Provide source code for developers to embed device detection logic in their applications
-Provide a device detection web service
-Provide a way for users to test devices against our DDR solution and submit requests, bug, defects, etc.
After my presentation next weekend, im going to put 100% of my effort in hitting my 4 goals for the website. If anyone would like to help, please let me know.
Also, here is my VUG presentation. Please look it over and let me know if you have any feedback.
http://www.rezsoft.org/vug7/dclass.ppt
Thanks again for everyone’s contribution to this project!
Reza
Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The direction seems to make sense, but I'm not the lawyer at OpenDDR, so we
> may have to check with license/legal advisors.
> At the moment licenses are not same....
If someone from OpenDDR contributes code or data here, under their
iCLA (which is always the case) that's fine, and under the iCLA the
contributor retains their copyright anyway, they just grant a
copyright license to the ASF.
-Bertrand
Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
The direction seems to make sense, but I'm not the lawyer at OpenDDR, so we
may have to check with license/legal advisors.
At the moment licenses are not same.
Werner
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Reza <re...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I thought the January (1.15) release solved this ‘uncertainty’. So
> basically we have a clean slate. Isn’t this just a matter of adding data to
> both DDRs for the time being? All the updates to OpenDDR since 1.15 are
> clean, right...?
>
> I am also under the impression that once DeviceMap gets its legs we will
> fold up OpenDDR and point everything back to DeviceMap. Right?
>
> So basically here is what I was asking for:
>
> 1) Commit all data (and code) updates to DeviceMap under the Apache ‘rules’
> 2) Mirror the commits back to OpenDDR as legacy support
>
>
> From: Werner Keil
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:40 PM
> To: devicemap-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
>
> Reza/all,
>
> Good point. Thanks for raising this.
> There could be legal/licensing issues preventing this, but from a pure
> technical point of view, mirroring this in either direction (from DeviceMap
> to OpenDDR might actually be the easier direction also from a license /
> legal perspective) should be not a bit issue.
>
> In a project some while ago in Austria we did that between Hg and SVN,
> doing the same between Git and SVN would not be too big of a deal either.
>
> Thoughts, opinions?
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Reza <re...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So I was reviewing my upcoming Varnish User Group presentation on device
> detection with Bertrand and Werner and an interesting point was brought up,
> DeviceMap is not getting updated with the latest and greatest DDR data.
>
> The OpenDDR data is at 1.18:
> https://github.com/OpenDDRdotORG/OpenDDR-Resources
>
> The DeviceMap DDR is using the original 1.15 data contribution:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/openddr/data/src/main/resources/devicedata/
>
> Personally, I feel this data is one of the cornerstones of the project.
> Here is my point and concern:
>
> -The DeviceMap project should be the primary source for housing and
> updating the DDR data. Can we please start keeping the data in the
> DeviceMap SVN upto date?
> -We need to better present this data as one of the usable aspects of
> this project
>
> My second point leads me to my next goal for this project which is to
> really revamp our website to better convey what this project is about:
>
> -Provided the latest and greatest DDR data, updated monthly. We should
> have a link present on our hopepage for users to easy download our DDR data
> -Provide source code for developers to embed device detection logic in
> their applications
> -Provide a device detection web service
> -Provide a way for users to test devices against our DDR solution and
> submit requests, bug, defects, etc.
>
> After my presentation next weekend, im going to put 100% of my effort in
> hitting my 4 goals for the website. If anyone would like to help, please
> let me know.
>
> Also, here is my VUG presentation. Please look it over and let me know
> if you have any feedback.
> http://www.rezsoft.org/vug7/dclass.ppt
>
> Thanks again for everyone’s contribution to this project!
>
> Reza
>
Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
Posted by Reza <re...@yahoo.com>.
I thought the January (1.15) release solved this ‘uncertainty’. So basically we have a clean slate. Isn’t this just a matter of adding data to both DDRs for the time being? All the updates to OpenDDR since 1.15 are clean, right...?
I am also under the impression that once DeviceMap gets its legs we will fold up OpenDDR and point everything back to DeviceMap. Right?
So basically here is what I was asking for:
1) Commit all data (and code) updates to DeviceMap under the Apache ‘rules’
2) Mirror the commits back to OpenDDR as legacy support
From: Werner Keil
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:40 PM
To: devicemap-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
Reza/all,
Good point. Thanks for raising this.
There could be legal/licensing issues preventing this, but from a pure technical point of view, mirroring this in either direction (from DeviceMap to OpenDDR might actually be the easier direction also from a license / legal perspective) should be not a bit issue.
In a project some while ago in Austria we did that between Hg and SVN, doing the same between Git and SVN would not be too big of a deal either.
Thoughts, opinions?
Werner
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Reza <re...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So I was reviewing my upcoming Varnish User Group presentation on device detection with Bertrand and Werner and an interesting point was brought up, DeviceMap is not getting updated with the latest and greatest DDR data.
The OpenDDR data is at 1.18:
https://github.com/OpenDDRdotORG/OpenDDR-Resources
The DeviceMap DDR is using the original 1.15 data contribution:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/openddr/data/src/main/resources/devicedata/
Personally, I feel this data is one of the cornerstones of the project. Here is my point and concern:
-The DeviceMap project should be the primary source for housing and updating the DDR data. Can we please start keeping the data in the DeviceMap SVN upto date?
-We need to better present this data as one of the usable aspects of this project
My second point leads me to my next goal for this project which is to really revamp our website to better convey what this project is about:
-Provided the latest and greatest DDR data, updated monthly. We should have a link present on our hopepage for users to easy download our DDR data
-Provide source code for developers to embed device detection logic in their applications
-Provide a device detection web service
-Provide a way for users to test devices against our DDR solution and submit requests, bug, defects, etc.
After my presentation next weekend, im going to put 100% of my effort in hitting my 4 goals for the website. If anyone would like to help, please let me know.
Also, here is my VUG presentation. Please look it over and let me know if you have any feedback.
http://www.rezsoft.org/vug7/dclass.ppt
Thanks again for everyone’s contribution to this project!
Reza
Re: DDR data: openddr -> devicemap
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Reza/all,
Good point. Thanks for raising this.
There could be legal/licensing issues preventing this, but from a pure
technical point of view, mirroring this in either direction (from DeviceMap
to OpenDDR might actually be the easier direction also from a license /
legal perspective[?]) should be not a bit issue.
In a project some while ago in Austria we did that between Hg and SVN,
doing the same between Git and SVN would not be too big of a deal either.
Thoughts, opinions?
Werner
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Reza <re...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So I was reviewing my upcoming Varnish User Group presentation on device
> detection with Bertrand and Werner and an interesting point was brought up,
> DeviceMap is not getting updated with the latest and greatest DDR data.
>
> The OpenDDR data is at 1.18:
> https://github.com/OpenDDRdotORG/OpenDDR-Resources
>
> The DeviceMap DDR is using the original 1.15 data contribution:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/openddr/data/src/main/resources/devicedata/
>
> Personally, I feel this data is one of the cornerstones of the project.
> Here is my point and concern:
>
> -The DeviceMap project should be the primary source for housing and
> updating the DDR data. Can we please start keeping the data in the
> DeviceMap SVN upto date?
> -We need to better present this data as one of the usable aspects of this
> project
>
> My second point leads me to my next goal for this project which is to
> really revamp our website to better convey what this project is about:
>
> -Provided the latest and greatest DDR data, updated monthly. We should
> have a link present on our hopepage for users to easy download our DDR data
> -Provide source code for developers to embed device detection logic in
> their applications
> -Provide a device detection web service
> -Provide a way for users to test devices against our DDR solution and
> submit requests, bug, defects, etc.
>
> After my presentation next weekend, im going to put 100% of my effort in
> hitting my 4 goals for the website. If anyone would like to help, please
> let me know.
>
> Also, here is my VUG presentation. Please look it over and let me know if
> you have any feedback.
> http://www.rezsoft.org/vug7/dclass.ppt
>
> Thanks again for everyone’s contribution to this project!
>
> Reza