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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Aaron Hilton <ot...@uvic.ca> on 2005/03/14 17:36:35 UTC

Re: subversion list tweaks

Ha ha, I'll chime in!

And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software can 
automate inserting the correct fields.

Cheers,
- Aaron.

On 14-Mar-05, at 8:34 AM, Phil Ehrens wrote:
> While I'm here complaining, the configuration for this list
> needs a bit of tweaking. "Subversion" should be added to the
> Subject header, or the From header should be replaced with
> "Subversion Users" <us...@subversion.tigris.org>. As it is
> now, it is difficult to pick the list out of my 800 emails,
> and when I hit the reply key it just sends to the original
> poster.


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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by Phil Ehrens <pe...@ligo.caltech.edu>.
And when there is no List-Post header, KMail barfs.

When fine-tuning list behaviour, Pine and Mutt in
their default configurations should be considered
canonical, IMHO.

Kaleb Pederson wrote:
> My e-mail client uses the List-Post header, so my e-mail client correctly 
> e-mails the list (kmail).
> 
> --Kaleb
> 
> On Monday 14 March 2005 9:36 am, Aaron Hilton wrote:
> > Ha ha, I'll chime in!
> >
> > And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software can
> > automate inserting the correct fields.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Aaron.
> >
> > On 14-Mar-05, at 8:34 AM, Phil Ehrens wrote:
> > > While I'm here complaining, the configuration for this list
> > > needs a bit of tweaking. "Subversion" should be added to the
> > > Subject header, or the From header should be replaced with
> > > "Subversion Users" <us...@subversion.tigris.org>. As it is
> > > now, it is difficult to pick the list out of my 800 emails,
> > > and when I hit the reply key it just sends to the original
> > > poster.
> >
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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by Kaleb Pederson <kp...@ewu.edu>.
My e-mail client uses the List-Post header, so my e-mail client correctly 
e-mails the list (kmail).

--Kaleb

On Monday 14 March 2005 9:36 am, Aaron Hilton wrote:
> Ha ha, I'll chime in!
>
> And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software can
> automate inserting the correct fields.
>
> Cheers,
> - Aaron.
>
> On 14-Mar-05, at 8:34 AM, Phil Ehrens wrote:
> > While I'm here complaining, the configuration for this list
> > needs a bit of tweaking. "Subversion" should be added to the
> > Subject header, or the From header should be replaced with
> > "Subversion Users" <us...@subversion.tigris.org>. As it is
> > now, it is difficult to pick the list out of my 800 emails,
> > and when I hit the reply key it just sends to the original
> > poster.
>
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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by Phil Ehrens <pe...@ligo.caltech.edu>.
If I had simply hit reply-to-all to the parent of
the email I am sending now, it would have sent
courtesy copies to 2 people, and 2 copies to the
list, because the parent was handled by a MODERN
email client.

Look, I subscribe to a whole raft of lists... this
is the only one that cannot be identified by subject
line. I still think that is a reasonable complaint.

Please consider this thread dead.

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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by Andrew Thompson <su...@aktzero.com>.
Aaron Hilton wrote:
>> <snip> or the From header should be replaced with
>> "Subversion Users" <us...@subversion.tigris.org>. As it is
>> now, it is difficult to pick the list out of my 800 emails,
>> and when I hit the reply key it just sends to the original
>> poster.
 > Ha ha, I'll chime in!
 >
 > And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software can
 > automate inserting the correct fields.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > - Aaron.

As a member of a list that munges the headers of list messages, I will 
say that what both of you are proposing is _not_ the way to handle this 
problem. Every day there are responses that were intended for the 
original sender of a message that appear on the list.

After you've read a list email, you should be able to realize that it 
actually came from the list. I mean, there's the little unsubscribe 
message at the bottom that should be a big hint. Nearly every mail 
client in existance has a feature that resembles "Reply to All." I've 
even seen one that has "Reply To List."

Munging the Reply-To header makes it a hassle to reply in context to a 
post off-list. Reply To All no more than one or two extra key or button 
commands.

Learn to use a basic feature of you mail client. Reply To All is there 
for a reason. It's not just a doo-dad.

-- 
Andrew Thompson
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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by Patrick Burleson <pb...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:36:35 -0800, Aaron Hilton <ot...@uvic.ca> wrote:
> Ha ha, I'll chime in!
> 
> And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software can
> automate inserting the correct fields.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Aaron.
> 

This topic comes up quite a bit. You can search the archive for a
thread I started about this in the past 6 months or so. The basic
advice I can give is, just remember to hit "Reply to All".

Patrick

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Re: subversion list tweaks

Posted by da...@email.unc.edu.
The list appears to be setting the headers it ought to be setting: 
Mailing-List, list-help, list-post, list-unsubscribe, etc.  An 
up-to-date
email client ought to be able to figure out how to reply to the sender and to
the list.  I think the From header should be left alone since changing it
makes it difficult to reply directly to the message author.

I do think a Reply-To header could be added, since once is not set.  I also
wouldn't mind a tag in the subject line - "[SVN]" or something.  Many
listservers allow that to be configured on a per-user basis.  What's being
used to host this list?

Daniel


Quoting Aaron Hilton <ot...@uvic.ca>:

> Ha ha, I'll chime in!
>
> And, the "reply-to" field should point to the list so mail software 
> can automate inserting the correct fields.
>
> Cheers,
> - Aaron.
>
> On 14-Mar-05, at 8:34 AM, Phil Ehrens wrote:
>> While I'm here complaining, the configuration for this list
>> needs a bit of tweaking. "Subversion" should be added to the
>> Subject header, or the From header should be replaced with
>> "Subversion Users" <us...@subversion.tigris.org>. As it is
>> now, it is difficult to pick the list out of my 800 emails,
>> and when I hit the reply key it just sends to the original
>> poster.
>
>
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