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Posted to dev@milagro.apache.org by Brian Spector <br...@icloud.com.INVALID> on 2018/11/07 21:45:14 UTC

Re: Request for review the polling report

Hi Justin,

I want to correct a misconception on the Incubator Report for October 2018 you stated.

“….most of the initial committers haven't signed ICLAs. They did however report this month.”

I know for a fact that, in addition to me, these folks have signed ICLA as they are listed as committers on http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html:

Go Yamamoto
Kealan McCusker
Patrick Hilt
Stanislav Mihaylov
Jan Willem Janssen

That’s the entire PPMC list.

I just want to point out that MIRACL, the company, filed a Software/Patent Grant and Corporate CCLA on Thursday, March 26, 2016 which covered the GitHub repos in question and from what I can see on the contributors listed to the repos they are covered/listed in the Corporate CCLA. I'm assuming that checks all the boxes then to port the GitHub repos in question over to the Milagro Apache Git repos, right?

The folks listed in the CCLA are myself, Kealan, Patrick.

@Giorgio, I have added you as a contributor to the project through the Whimsy page prematurely but have sent out a vote request to add you as a committer and PPMC person to the project. Thank you again for your enthusiasm.

Go, Kealan, Patrick, Stan and Jan, please approve Giorgio for ascension.

All, my current company, Qredo, intends to get actively involved in the project going forward and start contributing to the repository immediately.

I was the initiator of the project back in 2016 along with NTT and I know from communication with them they would like to see this project going, given that we have both heard MIRACL may not be a viable entity much longer.

Could either Nick, Justin, Stirling, Craig please make sure that within Whimsy the Corporate CCLA is listed as on file. It appears to not have been listed. I'm sure you have the records of receiving it on your end (Thursday, March 26, 2016) as we got an acknowledgement email from Craig (secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>) that same day. 

To reiterate I think it is in the best interest of the project to take the code in GitHub that was already covered under the CLA and do a merge into the Apache Git so we don't lose the years of development spent on it per Giorgio’s plan. 

I note that the code is licensed under the Apache License 2.0.

Thanks
Brian

On Oct 16, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,
i signed the ICLA may years for Tuscany.
Are you a committer/PPMC member of this project? I don't see you on the roster.
Can i port the current miracle repository to Apache?
Do we have ICLAs on file for all contributors to that repo? Has that code been covered by a software grant? Given it's in an external repo that's had, from what I understand, ongoing work I'm guessing the answer to both of those would be no?
Thanks,
Justin
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On Oct 16, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,
i signed the ICLA may years for Tuscany.
Are you a committer/PPMC member of this project? I don't see you on the roster.
Can i port the current miracle repository to Apache?
Do we have ICLAs on file for all contributors to that repo? Has that code been covered by a software grant? Given it's in an external repo that's had, from what I understand, ongoing work I'm guessing the answer to both of those would be no?
Thanks,
Justin






> On 5 Oct 2018, at 09:35, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Justin, you are helping us by providing the information needed.
>> That what I expect for mentors in addition to the recent effort.
> 
> I'm sorry but I'm not always going to be able to do that, as V.P Incubator I'm spread fairly thin.
> 
>> About the additional help we need, I added a line about regular ping messages.
>> I mean it not necessarily from mentors' side but can be from PMC's side.
> 
> Well as a member of the PPMC you can pick yourself :-) The IPMC board reports are really where stuff like that goes, if something is more urgent then you can ask for help on general@ but sometime the response will be "Ask your mentors".
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin


Re: Request for review the polling report

Posted by Brian Spector <br...@icloud.com.INVALID>.
Hi Justin, thanks for confirming the software/patent grant on file. How do I get it to show up in the IP clearance page on the incubator site?

Contact infra team and request?

Thanks
Brian

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Nov 2018, at 08:30, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can confirm there’s a CCLA on file and it covered the following employees:
> 
> Brian Spector, Genoveffa Pagano, Tomasz Matecki, Kealan McCusker, Michael Scott, Patrick Hilt, Simeon Aladjem, Stanislav Mihaylov
> 
> And there’s also a software grant, I’ve not looked at the exact details in the pdf but the grant covered:
> 
>       Milagro MFA client SDKs
>       Milagro MFA JavaScript library
>       Milagro Server for x86
>       Milagro Crypto Library
>       Milagro TLS
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: Request for review the polling report

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
Hi,

I can confirm there’s a CCLA on file and it covered the following employees:

 Brian Spector, Genoveffa Pagano, Tomasz Matecki, Kealan McCusker, Michael Scott, Patrick Hilt, Simeon Aladjem, Stanislav Mihaylov

And there’s also a software grant, I’ve not looked at the exact details in the pdf but the grant covered:

       Milagro MFA client SDKs
       Milagro MFA JavaScript library
       Milagro Server for x86
       Milagro Crypto Library
       Milagro TLS

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Request for review the polling report

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
HI,

> “….most of the initial committers haven't signed ICLAs. They did however report this month.”
> 
> I know for a fact that, in addition to me, these folks have signed ICLA as they are listed as committers on http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html:
> 
> Go Yamamoto
> Kealan McCusker
> Patrick Hilt
> Stanislav Mihaylov
> Jan Willem Janssen

These are people on the initial committer list / PPMC list who have AFAIK not signed ICLAs or if they have they are missing from the roster:

	• Akira Nagai (NTT)
	• Fuji Hitoshi (NTT)
	• Genoveffa Pagano (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Jordan Katserov (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Kenji Takahishi (NTT)
	• Michael Scott (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Milen Rangelove (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Mitko Yugovski (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Nick Pateman (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Simeon Aladhem (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Stanislav Mihaylov (Certivox/MIRACL)
	• Tetsutaro Kobayashi (NTT)

> I just want to point out that MIRACL, the company, filed a Software/Patent Grant and Corporate CCLA on Thursday, March 26, 2016 which covered the GitHub repos in question and from what I can see on the contributors listed to the repos they are covered/listed in the Corporate CCLA. I'm assuming that checks all the boxes then to port the GitHub repos in question over to the Milagro Apache Git repos, right?

It may or may not, the corporate CLA covers MIRACL not the ASF. What you would need is a software grant and I’m not sure MIRACL ended up granting the software to the ASF as it’s not listed here [3]? If so it would only cover what was in the grant, not software developed after that outside of the ASF.  You would also need to check that all people who have made significant contributions are also covered by ICLAs. [1] Look for example what Apache Dubbo did. [2] Feel free to check / ask about any of this on legal discuss for a second opinion as INAL.

> To reiterate I think it is in the best interest of the project to take the code in GitHub that was already covered under the CLA and do a merge into the Apache Git so we don't lose the years of development spent on it per Giorgio’s plan. 
> 
> I note that the code is licensed under the Apache License 2.0.

ASF projects don’t take other ASF license code without permission from the owners, to do so could be viewed as a hostile fork and we don’t do that. Again if in doubt please ask about this on the incubator general list or on legal discuss list.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html
2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/CLA-signing-status
3. http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html