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[NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Dear all,

We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master branch. 
It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 version on 
splash even after the 11.0 got released.

Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash screen 
image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as well!

Thank you in advance!

Laszlo Kishalmi


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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Green <dg...@gmail.com>.
Safari can render this http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg

On 26 Apr 2019, at 19:41, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

> I was happy too early.
>
> It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, command 
> line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and librsvg-bin had 
> issues.
>
> So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox I 
> can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.
>
> On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>> I love the svg!
>>
>>
>> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
>> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
>> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash on 
>> build time from the svg.
>>
>> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>>
>>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>>
>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>>
>>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>
>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good 
>>>> as well!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Matthias Bläsing <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>.
Hi Antonio,

Am Samstag, den 27.04.2019, 09:53 +0200 schrieb Antonio:
> Hi Laszlo,
> 
> - For browsers:
> 
> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
> 
> - For batik:
> 
> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/netbeans-splash-batik.svg
> 
> This batik compatible version renders ugly in browsers, but renders 
> properly with batik in any platform. It embeds the font in SVG. Font
> is 
> Open Font License 1.1, which is APLv2 compatible AFAIK9.
> 
> I've tested it with the APLv2 Flamingo SVG converter 
> http://ebourg.github.io/flamingo-svg-transcoder/ , that you can run
> with 
> JavaWebStart, and which also has an Ant task that could be of help
> for 
> rendering in a pipeline.
> 

I did some tinkering. The attached zip contains the result. I modified
the splash.svg, so that it correctly renders:

- the ids (logo) were modified to be unique
- embedded the font locally

With this, I can render the file in batik, chromium and firefox.

Maybe that helps

Matthias

Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi Laszlo,

- For browsers:

http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg

- For batik:

http://netbeans.apache.org/images/netbeans-splash-batik.svg

This batik compatible version renders ugly in browsers, but renders 
properly with batik in any platform. It embeds the font in SVG. Font is 
Open Font License 1.1, which is APLv2 compatible AFAIK9.

I've tested it with the APLv2 Flamingo SVG converter 
http://ebourg.github.io/flamingo-svg-transcoder/ , that you can run with 
JavaWebStart, and which also has an Ant task that could be of help for 
rendering in a pipeline.

Cheers,
Antonio



El 27/04/2019 a las 8:46, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> Well, I was able to figure out a no-text version, but thank you.
> 
> Java has a feature which displays a splash screen from a MANIFEST.MF 
> attribute. We are actually using that, that's why our slash.png shall be 
> renamed to gif. That feature is not really maintained/needed any more. 
> E.g.: AFAIK, On Mac that is the reason why a gray rectangle appears 
> before the Splash screen.
> 
> By removing the static image splash screen (we are updating that later 
> anyway), and creating our own splash, we can do better things with it, 
> like HiDPI Splash, etc., Java Starts much faster now that Java 6 when 
> this splash screen feature was introduced. The machines we are using got 
> faster as well.
> 
> But do not go that far, let's find out what can I do with the no text 
> splash screen...
> 
> 
> On 4/26/19 10:57 PM, Antonio wrote:
>> No text version here:
>>
>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash-notext.svg
>>
>> Regarding INFRA-18287: website is now updating properly through gitbox.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> El 27/04/2019 a las 6:48, Antonio escribió:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yep, the SVG downloads the font from the inlined CSS from Google 
>>> Fonts, so I imagine this will have issues in command line tools but 
>>> not on browsers.
>>>
>>> For command line tools I imagine one would have to download the font 
>>> and install it locally somewhere so imagemagick or others can find it.
>>>
>>> Anyway the SVG was a quick & dirty example that we can hack away. We 
>>> could remove the text, for example, and keep only the background 
>>> stuff and the logo. And then print-out the text with imagemagick (+1 
>>> dependency) or ideally with swing (+0 dependencies).
>>>
>>> I'll give some more hacking to it :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>> El 27/04/2019 a las 1:41, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> I was happy too early.
>>>>
>>>> It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, 
>>>> command line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and 
>>>> librsvg-bin had issues.
>>>>
>>>> So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox 
>>>> I can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>> I love the svg!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
>>>>> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
>>>>> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash 
>>>>> on build time from the svg.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>>>>>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>>>>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be 
>>>>>>> good as well!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Well, I was able to figure out a no-text version, but thank you.

Java has a feature which displays a splash screen from a MANIFEST.MF 
attribute. We are actually using that, that's why our slash.png shall be 
renamed to gif. That feature is not really maintained/needed any more. 
E.g.: AFAIK, On Mac that is the reason why a gray rectangle appears 
before the Splash screen.

By removing the static image splash screen (we are updating that later 
anyway), and creating our own splash, we can do better things with it, 
like HiDPI Splash, etc., Java Starts much faster now that Java 6 when 
this splash screen feature was introduced. The machines we are using got 
faster as well.

But do not go that far, let's find out what can I do with the no text 
splash screen...


On 4/26/19 10:57 PM, Antonio wrote:
> No text version here:
>
> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash-notext.svg
>
> Regarding INFRA-18287: website is now updating properly through gitbox.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
>
> El 27/04/2019 a las 6:48, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yep, the SVG downloads the font from the inlined CSS from Google 
>> Fonts, so I imagine this will have issues in command line tools but 
>> not on browsers.
>>
>> For command line tools I imagine one would have to download the font 
>> and install it locally somewhere so imagemagick or others can find it.
>>
>> Anyway the SVG was a quick & dirty example that we can hack away. We 
>> could remove the text, for example, and keep only the background 
>> stuff and the logo. And then print-out the text with imagemagick (+1 
>> dependency) or ideally with swing (+0 dependencies).
>>
>> I'll give some more hacking to it :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> El 27/04/2019 a las 1:41, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>> I was happy too early.
>>>
>>> It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, 
>>> command line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and 
>>> librsvg-bin had issues.
>>>
>>> So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox 
>>> I can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.
>>>
>>> On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>> I love the svg!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
>>>> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
>>>> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash 
>>>> on build time from the svg.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>>>>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>>>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>>>>
>>>>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be 
>>>>>> good as well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
No text version here:

http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash-notext.svg

Regarding INFRA-18287: website is now updating properly through gitbox.

Cheers,
Antonio


El 27/04/2019 a las 6:48, Antonio escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> Yep, the SVG downloads the font from the inlined CSS from Google Fonts, 
> so I imagine this will have issues in command line tools but not on 
> browsers.
> 
> For command line tools I imagine one would have to download the font and 
> install it locally somewhere so imagemagick or others can find it.
> 
> Anyway the SVG was a quick & dirty example that we can hack away. We 
> could remove the text, for example, and keep only the background stuff 
> and the logo. And then print-out the text with imagemagick (+1 
> dependency) or ideally with swing (+0 dependencies).
> 
> I'll give some more hacking to it :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Antonio
> 
> 
> El 27/04/2019 a las 1:41, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>> I was happy too early.
>>
>> It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, command 
>> line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and librsvg-bin had 
>> issues.
>>
>> So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox I 
>> can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.
>>
>> On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>> I love the svg!
>>>
>>>
>>> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
>>> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
>>> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash on 
>>> build time from the svg.
>>>
>>> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>>>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>>>
>>>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>>>
>>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>>>
>>>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good 
>>>>> as well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>
>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>
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>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi,

Yep, the SVG downloads the font from the inlined CSS from Google Fonts, 
so I imagine this will have issues in command line tools but not on 
browsers.

For command line tools I imagine one would have to download the font and 
install it locally somewhere so imagemagick or others can find it.

Anyway the SVG was a quick & dirty example that we can hack away. We 
could remove the text, for example, and keep only the background stuff 
and the logo. And then print-out the text with imagemagick (+1 
dependency) or ideally with swing (+0 dependencies).

I'll give some more hacking to it :-)

Cheers,
Antonio


El 27/04/2019 a las 1:41, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> I was happy too early.
> 
> It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, command 
> line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and librsvg-bin had 
> issues.
> 
> So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox I 
> can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.
> 
> On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>> I love the svg!
>>
>>
>> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
>> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
>> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash on 
>> build time from the svg.
>>
>> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>>
>>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>>
>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>>
>>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>
>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good 
>>>> as well!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
I was happy too early.

It seems only Firefox/Chrome could correctly render that SVG, command 
line converters I've tried: imagemagic, inkscape and librsvg-bin had issues.

So I go back to my original plan get the empty splash (from firefox I 
can make one) and try to draw something on that with Java later.

On 4/26/19 3:55 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> I love the svg!
>
>
> Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but 
> don't forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
> Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash on 
> build time from the svg.
>
> On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
>> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>>
>> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>>
>> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>>
>> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>
>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good 
>>> as well!
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>
>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
I love the svg!


Now we just need to agree on the design. I like both version, but don't 
forget the progress bar an the status texts as well.
Till then, I'm going to make some experiment generating the splash on 
build time from the svg.

On 4/26/19 2:44 PM, Antonio wrote:
> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>
> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>
> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>
> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master 
>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 
>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>
>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash 
>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good 
>> as well!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>
>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Awesome! Looks really cool.

Gj

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:45 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:

> Here's a splash image in plain text.
>
> Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)
>
> http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton
>
> El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master branch.
> > It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 version on
> > splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >
> > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash screen
> > image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as well!
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Here's a splash image in plain text.

Updating the release number is a piece of cake :-)

http://netbeans.apache.org/images/splash.svg

Cheers,
Antonio

P.S.: Font is 'Anton' (Open Font License)
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Anton

El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> Dear all,
> 
> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master branch. 
> It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 version on 
> splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> 
> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash screen 
> image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as well!
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> 
> Laszlo Kishalmi
> 
> 
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Do you mean this one Geertjan? 



Cheers, 
Dave

From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 04 May 2019 07:05
To: David Schulz
Cc: dev; Christian Lenz; Apache NetBeans
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get it, can we put it into main?

Gj

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now: 
Developer Link including Assets:
https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
 
Click Dummy Link for Comments:
https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/ 
 
Enjoy, 
Dave
 
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 26 April 2019 23:09
To: dev
Cc: David Schulz; Christian Lenz; Apache NetBeans
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
 
 
 
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the image!

The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
 
+1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks awesome.
 

As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?

Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text 
version of it?
 
+1 to these plans.
 
Gj
 

I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural 
elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate 
it each and every time we release something.

Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.

On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>
> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a number.
>
> Or should we add a number there?
>
> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>
> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the 
> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing 
> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE 
> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>
> All the best,
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> system design thinking
>
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>
> 10719 Berlin
>
> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache 
> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> Agreed. David, can you help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com 
> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>
> Thanks!
> Kai
>
>
> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >
> > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > well!
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Awesome.

Gj

On Saturday, May 4, 2019, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We could use this as a template, right?
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/fe
> ature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>
> This is a 640x396 png file.
>
> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 (i.e.,
> creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>
> Thanks
> Antonio
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>
>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
>>> number/release number.
>>>
>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. That
>>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>
>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
>>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are down,
>>>> I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>>>
>>>> showing
>>>
>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
>>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
>>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>>>
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>
>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> says
>>>
>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036ced
>>>>>>>> ae-702e/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c8
>>>>>>>> 0e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>>>>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c8
>>> 0e-eba0/
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
>>>>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I know, code talks more than anything else.

On 5/4/19 9:43 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> As always, let’s do what is best + what someone is willing and able to
> provide a pull request for.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 18:15, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Any comment on moving away from the Java Splash screen implementation?
>>
>> So option one:
>>
>>   1. Generate the splash screen build time with some Ant magic.
>>   2. Have an empty splash screen and draw on that during runtime.
>>
>> These options are not mutually exclusive we can have both generate the
>> empty splash screen(s) from SVG with some Ant magic and draw that on
>> runtime.
>>
>> My issues with the current Splash Screen implementation:
>>
>>    * That part of the JRE got unmaintained.
>>    * No control on positioning. Can look completely strange on multi
>>      monitor setup.
>>    * It does not work on Mac. (Mac users see a gray rectangle before the
>>      in process splash screen logic takes over)
>>    * HiDPI support might only be acquired by tweaking the command line
>>      processing in nbexec
>>
>> On 5/4/19 8:27 AM, Antonio wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>>
>>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>>
>>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>>
>>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
>>>>> number/release number.
>>>>>
>>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>>> That
>>>>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
>>>>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are
>>>>>> down,
>>>>>> I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>>> chance to
>>>>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>>>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hi
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=DEV+version,+it+should+show+just+the+DEV+hi&entry=gmail&source=g>nt
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern
>>>>>>>>>>> IDE
>>>>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing
>>>>>>>>>>>> a 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> splash
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
>>>>>>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
As always, let’s do what is best + what someone is willing and able to
provide a pull request for.

Gj

On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 18:15, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Any comment on moving away from the Java Splash screen implementation?
>
> So option one:
>
>  1. Generate the splash screen build time with some Ant magic.
>  2. Have an empty splash screen and draw on that during runtime.
>
> These options are not mutually exclusive we can have both generate the
> empty splash screen(s) from SVG with some Ant magic and draw that on
> runtime.
>
> My issues with the current Splash Screen implementation:
>
>   * That part of the JRE got unmaintained.
>   * No control on positioning. Can look completely strange on multi
>     monitor setup.
>   * It does not work on Mac. (Mac users see a gray rectangle before the
>     in process splash screen logic takes over)
>   * HiDPI support might only be acquired by tweaking the command line
>     processing in nbexec
>
> On 5/4/19 8:27 AM, Antonio wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We could use this as a template, right?
> >
> >
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
> >
> >
> > This is a 640x396 png file.
> >
> > If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
> > (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
> >
> > Thanks
> > Antonio
> >
> > El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> >> Excellent, great, thanks.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
> >>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
> >>> number/release number.
> >>>
> >>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
> >>> That
> >>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Antonio
> >>>
> >>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> >>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
> >>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are
> >>>> down,
> >>>> I need to go to sleep now...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
> >>> showing
> >>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gj
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
> >>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
> >>>>>> test
> >>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
> >>>>>> chance to
> >>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
> >>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
> >>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
> >>> (*nix/Windows)
> >>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
> >>>>>> (right now
> >>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
> >>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
> >>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
> >>> says
> >>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>> it,
> >>>>>>> can we put it into main?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Enjoy,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
> >>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
> >>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
> >>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> >>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
> >>>>>>>> looks
> >>>>>>>> awesome.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
> >>>>>>>> text
> >>>>>>>> version of it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
> >>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
> >>>>>>>> generate
> >>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hi
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=DEV+version,+it+should+show+just+the+DEV+hi&entry=gmail&source=g>nt
>
> >>>>>>>>> without a
> >>>>>>>> number.
> >>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
> >>>>>>>>> screenshot of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
> >>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern
> >>>>>>>>> IDE
> >>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All the best,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> >>>>>>>>> system design thinking
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> >>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> >>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> >>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
> >>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
> >>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
> >>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Geertjan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> >>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>> Kai
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> >>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing
> >>>>>>>>>> a 10
> >>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
> >>>>>>>>>> splash
> >>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
> >>>>>>>>>> good as
> >>>>>>>>>> well!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Any comment on moving away from the Java Splash screen implementation?

So option one:

 1. Generate the splash screen build time with some Ant magic.
 2. Have an empty splash screen and draw on that during runtime.

These options are not mutually exclusive we can have both generate the 
empty splash screen(s) from SVG with some Ant magic and draw that on 
runtime.

My issues with the current Splash Screen implementation:

  * That part of the JRE got unmaintained.
  * No control on positioning. Can look completely strange on multi
    monitor setup.
  * It does not work on Mac. (Mac users see a gray rectangle before the
    in process splash screen logic takes over)
  * HiDPI support might only be acquired by tweaking the command line
    processing in nbexec

On 5/4/19 8:27 AM, Antonio wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We could use this as a template, right?
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn 
>
>
> This is a 640x396 png file.
>
> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>
> Thanks
> Antonio
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
>>> number/release number.
>>>
>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. 
>>> That
>>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
>>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are 
>>>> down,
>>>> I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>> showing
>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick 
>>>>>> test
>>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a 
>>>>>> chance to
>>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
>>> says
>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it 
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no 
>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>> screenshot of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern 
>>>>>>>>> IDE
>>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing 
>>>>>>>>>> a 10
>>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>> splash
>>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
>>>>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>.
Without the font installed it looks like Times Roman. In the image without text it looks good, but, I am concerned about the fine or thinness of the text as well as the gray colour. I turn 65 next week and one of the deficiencies of old age is visual acuity. A light gray against any background colour is difficult to make out and thin or fine text of any colour against any background is difficult to make out. May I suggest increasing the thickness of all text by 50%, not quite bold but half way there, and using a darker shade of gray.

Regardless of my opinion, overall it does look good.

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> 
Sent: May 9, 2019 11:57 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Definitely!

I added also some ideas from "The ASF Identity Style Guide" [1] regarding typography, to generate something like [2]. Attaching SVGs both with and without text.

If everybody agrees I'll upload the Montserrat fonts to our download server in the following days, add the proper licenses & "rat" checks and imprint the PNGs for the "about" and "splash" screens.

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ApacheFoundation_StyleGuide.pdf


[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455?focusedCommentId=16836865&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16836865


El 9/5/19 a las 10:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Excellent, great again a decisive contribution from James Gosling.
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 09:45, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach 😊 Looks good enough.
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: James Gosling
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
>> An: dev
>> Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove 
>> all font references:
>>
>>
>>
> 

RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>.
Now I will become really annoying. The logo looks very similar to the Google Cloud Platform Icon though our hexagon looks much nicer.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> 
Sent: May 9, 2019 11:57 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Definitely!

I added also some ideas from "The ASF Identity Style Guide" [1] regarding typography, to generate something like [2]. Attaching SVGs both with and without text.

If everybody agrees I'll upload the Montserrat fonts to our download server in the following days, add the proper licenses & "rat" checks and imprint the PNGs for the "about" and "splash" screens.

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ApacheFoundation_StyleGuide.pdf


[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455?focusedCommentId=16836865&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16836865


El 9/5/19 a las 10:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Excellent, great again a decisive contribution from James Gosling.
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 09:45, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach 😊 Looks good enough.
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: James Gosling
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
>> An: dev
>> Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove 
>> all font references:
>>
>>
>>
> 

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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Definitely!

I added also some ideas from "The ASF Identity Style Guide" [1] 
regarding typography, to generate something like [2]. Attaching SVGs 
both with and without text.

If everybody agrees I'll upload the Montserrat fonts to our download 
server in the following days, add the proper licenses & "rat" checks and 
imprint the PNGs for the "about" and "splash" screens.

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ApacheFoundation_StyleGuide.pdf


[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455?focusedCommentId=16836865&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16836865


El 9/5/19 a las 10:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Excellent, great again a decisive contribution from James Gosling.
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 09:45, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach 😊 Looks good enough.
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: James Gosling
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
>> An: dev
>> Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all
>> font references:
>>
>>
>>
> 

RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Sorry for waiting, here are three options for the loading screen. 
Feel free to enter your feedback straight into the Xd Link.
https://xd.adobe.com/view/f174730e-92a0-47d2-42c0-905b37a58019-8745/

All the best, 
Dave


From: Eirik Bakke
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2019 18:41
To: David Schulz
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

> Loading and the Version hint is a string and will be added by the system, right?

Yes. These are two different text boxes--the position, size, and horizontal alignment is configurable. The font must be a standard system font, typically whichever one Java uses for the "Dialog" font. There is no line breaking allowed, though. (I.e. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190409-8edbbadda0de)" is all the same text string. If that's an aesthetic problem, I could write some more code to make the build number a separately configurable text box.).

> Is the bar in the AI file is a progress bar which fill up? Is the style here fixed? Can we replace it with a spinner? 

Yes, it's shown in the AI file for illustration; it will fill up left to right. The designer gets to pick its dimensions (start X,Y and width/thickness) and color. No spinner available, unfortunately, must be a progress bar. (The progress bar does have the advantage of showing the actual percentage of loading complete.)

You can see the actual configuration  file here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246/files#diff-ea2767e19db5427efcfe777b18ebb919

(I can help setting the coordinates here if you give me an image that illustrates where you want the text boxes and status bar to go.)

So, to summarize, the necessary parts for the screen are:  
o Version string, on one line
o "Apache NetBeans" Logo
o Loading Hint text box, on one line (e.g. "Loading modules..." though this will be changed to other potentially long indication messages)
o Progress bar rectangle (not a spinner)
o Key Visual (background graphic)

Thanks for your time!

-- Eirik

From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 3:55 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Eirik, 

It looks already good 😉
Just some questions from my site:
- Loading and the Version hint is a string and will be added by the system, right? 
- Is the bar in the AI file is a progress bar which fill up? Is the style here fixed? Can we replace it with a spinner? 
- The necessary parts for the screen are:  
o Version Number / Hint
o Apache NetBeans Logo
o Loading Hint 
o Progress bar / spinner
o Key Visual (background graphic)
o ?

Here is my initial draft:

I’m not really in favour of it and will change some stuff here over the week to make it more visual appealing in combination with the new information. 😉

All the best, 
David 


From: Eirik Bakke
Sent: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 03:41
To: hello@raiken.de
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hi, David!

The Pull Request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246, which it seems we will be merging for 11.1, introduces some technical changes to the splash screen:
1) The resolution should be 960x600, to make it look sharp on HiDPI/Retina displays. On non-HiDPI displays it will be automatically scaled down 50%.
2) There will now be a version string, e.g. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190601-0499877ef874)" displayed somewhere on the splash screen, in addition to the progress bar status text. This string can be either left-aligned, center-aligned, or right-aligned, and like for the status bar text, we can choose the font size and color.
3) The "Apache NetBeans" icon + logotype combination has been enlarged, and omits the version number (since the latter is now shown in the separate version string).

The pull request includes a very simple splash screen that would meet these requirements, but I didn't quite manage to reproduce the style you established in the other graphic assets (website, previous splash screen, IDE welcome tab). If you'd like to do a more elaborate updated splash screen graphic, feel free to provide one!

Thanks for your contributions!

-- Eirik


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio, 

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here. 
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month. 
These should fit. 

I attached two versions:

#Clean 
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned 

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts. 

All the best, 
David

From: Christian Lenz
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Cc: David Schulz
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
> 
> -- EIrik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
> Loading and the Version hint is a string and will be added by the system, right?

Yes. These are two different text boxes--the position, size, and horizontal alignment is configurable. The font must be a standard system font, typically whichever one Java uses for the "Dialog" font. There is no line breaking allowed, though. (I.e. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190409-8edbbadda0de)" is all the same text string. If that's an aesthetic problem, I could write some more code to make the build number a separately configurable text box.).

> Is the bar in the AI file is a progress bar which fill up? Is the style here fixed? Can we replace it with a spinner?

Yes, it's shown in the AI file for illustration; it will fill up left to right. The designer gets to pick its dimensions (start X,Y and width/thickness) and color. No spinner available, unfortunately, must be a progress bar. (The progress bar does have the advantage of showing the actual percentage of loading complete.)

You can see the actual configuration  file here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246/files#diff-ea2767e19db5427efcfe777b18ebb919

(I can help setting the coordinates here if you give me an image that illustrates where you want the text boxes and status bar to go.)

So, to summarize, the necessary parts for the screen are:

     *   Version string, on one line
     *   "Apache NetBeans" Logo
     *   Loading Hint text box, on one line (e.g. "Loading modules..." though this will be changed to other potentially long indication messages)
     *   Progress bar rectangle (not a spinner)
     *   Key Visual (background graphic)

Thanks for your time!

-- Eirik

From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 3:55 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Eirik,

It looks already good 😉
Just some questions from my site:

  *   Loading and the Version hint is a string and will be added by the system, right?
  *   Is the bar in the AI file is a progress bar which fill up? Is the style here fixed? Can we replace it with a spinner?
  *   The necessary parts for the screen are:
     *   Version Number / Hint
     *   Apache NetBeans Logo
     *   Loading Hint
     *   Progress bar / spinner
     *   Key Visual (background graphic)
     *   ?

Here is my initial draft:
[cid:image002.png@01D520FD.FDFD5370]
I’m not really in favour of it and will change some stuff here over the week to make it more visual appealing in combination with the new information. 😉

All the best,
David


From: Eirik Bakke<ma...@ultorg.com>
Sent: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 03:41
To: hello@raiken.de<ma...@raiken.de>
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hi, David!

The Pull Request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246, which it seems we will be merging for 11.1, introduces some technical changes to the splash screen:
1) The resolution should be 960x600, to make it look sharp on HiDPI/Retina displays. On non-HiDPI displays it will be automatically scaled down 50%.
2) There will now be a version string, e.g. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190601-0499877ef874)" displayed somewhere on the splash screen, in addition to the progress bar status text. This string can be either left-aligned, center-aligned, or right-aligned, and like for the status bar text, we can choose the font size and color.
3) The "Apache NetBeans" icon + logotype combination has been enlarged, and omits the version number (since the latter is now shown in the separate version string).

The pull request includes a very simple splash screen that would meet these requirements, but I didn't quite manage to reproduce the style you established in the other graphic assets (website, previous splash screen, IDE welcome tab). If you'd like to do a more elaborate updated splash screen graphic, feel free to provide one!

Thanks for your contributions!

-- Eirik


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Hey Eirik, 

It looks already good 😉
Just some questions from my site:
- Loading and the Version hint is a string and will be added by the system, right? 
- Is the bar in the AI file is a progress bar which fill up? Is the style here fixed? Can we replace it with a spinner? 
- The necessary parts for the screen are:	
o Version Number / Hint
o Apache NetBeans Logo
o Loading Hint 
o Progress bar / spinner
o Key Visual (background graphic)
o ?

Here is my initial draft:

I’m not really in favour of it and will change some stuff here over the week to make it more visual appealing in combination with the new information. 😉

All the best, 
David 


From: Eirik Bakke
Sent: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 03:41
To: hello@raiken.de
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hi, David!

The Pull Request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246, which it seems we will be merging for 11.1, introduces some technical changes to the splash screen:
1) The resolution should be 960x600, to make it look sharp on HiDPI/Retina displays. On non-HiDPI displays it will be automatically scaled down 50%.
2) There will now be a version string, e.g. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190601-0499877ef874)" displayed somewhere on the splash screen, in addition to the progress bar status text. This string can be either left-aligned, center-aligned, or right-aligned, and like for the status bar text, we can choose the font size and color.
3) The "Apache NetBeans" icon + logotype combination has been enlarged, and omits the version number (since the latter is now shown in the separate version string).

The pull request includes a very simple splash screen that would meet these requirements, but I didn't quite manage to reproduce the style you established in the other graphic assets (website, previous splash screen, IDE welcome tab). If you'd like to do a more elaborate updated splash screen graphic, feel free to provide one!

Thanks for your contributions!

-- Eirik


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio, 

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here. 
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month. 
These should fit. 

I attached two versions:

#Clean 
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned 

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts. 

All the best, 
David

From: Christian Lenz
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Cc: David Schulz
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
> 
> -- EIrik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
Hi, David!

The Pull Request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246, which it seems we will be merging for 11.1, introduces some technical changes to the splash screen:
1) The resolution should be 960x600, to make it look sharp on HiDPI/Retina displays. On non-HiDPI displays it will be automatically scaled down 50%.
2) There will now be a version string, e.g. "Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build 20190601-0499877ef874)" displayed somewhere on the splash screen, in addition to the progress bar status text. This string can be either left-aligned, center-aligned, or right-aligned, and like for the status bar text, we can choose the font size and color.
3) The "Apache NetBeans" icon + logotype combination has been enlarged, and omits the version number (since the latter is now shown in the separate version string).

The pull request includes a very simple splash screen that would meet these requirements, but I didn't quite manage to reproduce the style you established in the other graphic assets (website, previous splash screen, IDE welcome tab). If you'd like to do a more elaborate updated splash screen graphic, feel free to provide one!

Thanks for your contributions!

-- Eirik


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
Thanks David! For those who don't have the Montserrat font installed but who want to have a look, I converted David's SVG files to "outlined" versions (which don't require a font installed to display correctly), see attached.

I have a slight preference for the version without the separation line. The line will nearly disappear at small sizes.
-- Eirik

From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
There's the logo, which is just the NetBeans "cube" icon, but there should also be an official "logo lockup", which is the icon combined with the words "Apache NetBeans IDE" in a consistent typeface and positioning, always presented in the same way.

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:17 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

We are talking splash screens here, not logos.

Logo (with no text) was approved way back by the community, AFAIR.

Also we'd like to use the $buildnum property from the builds, which is quite long, something like "dev-XXXXX-YYYYY", that doesn't fit in the current splash screen either.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 07/05/2019 a las 9:45, David Schulz escribió:
> Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,
> 
> sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
> But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
> These should fit.
> 
> I attached two versions:
> 
> #Clean
> Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned
> 
> #Seperation Line
> Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and 
> the logo names
> 
> We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.
> 
> All the best,
> David
> 
> From: Christian Lenz
> Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Cc: David Schulz
> Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey David,
> 
> can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Antonio
> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Good question!
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
> icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?
> 
> Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?
> 
> Questions, questions,... ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/sp
>>> lash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>>
>> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>>
>> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>>
>> -- EIrik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>> ash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>>
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>>
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/sp
>>> la sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>>
>>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
>>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
>>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current 
>>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>>
>>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG 
>>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my 
>>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a 
>>>>>>>> quick test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we 
>>>>>>>> have a chance to add the version text programmatically, though 
>>>>>>>> it requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>>       2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>>       3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the 
>>>>>>>> exceptions (right now
>>>>>>>>          those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>>       4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>>       5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can 
>>>>>>>>> we get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036ceda
>>>>>>>>>> e-
>>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80
>>>>>>>>>> e-
>>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz 
>>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans 
>>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < 
>>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, 
>>>>>>>>>> +it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, 
>>>>>>>>>> no text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the 
>>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do 
>>>>>>>>>> not have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba
>>>>> 0/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE 
>>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world 
>>>>>>>>>>> where nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next 
>>>>>>>>>>> project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel 
>>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version 
>>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background 
>>>>>>>>>>>> image would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
We are talking splash screens here, not logos.

Logo (with no text) was approved way back by the community, AFAIR.

Also we'd like to use the $buildnum property from the builds, which is 
quite long, something like "dev-XXXXX-YYYYY", that doesn't fit in the 
current splash screen either.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 07/05/2019 a las 9:45, David Schulz escribió:
> Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,
> 
> sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
> But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
> These should fit.
> 
> I attached two versions:
> 
> #Clean
> Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned
> 
> #Seperation Line
> Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names
> 
> We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.
> 
> All the best,
> David
> 
> From: Christian Lenz
> Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Cc: David Schulz
> Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey David,
> 
> can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Antonio
> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Good question!
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
> icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?
> 
> Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?
> 
> Questions, questions,... ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>>
>> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>>
>> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>>
>> -- EIrik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>>
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>>
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>>
>>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>>
>>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>>       2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>>       3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>>          those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>>       4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>>       5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Yeah, same for me, for the thin line. I don’t get it 😃.



Von: Kenneth Fogel
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 18:04
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

I must admit to not being a fan of Times Roman style fonts as used for the text ‘NetBeans.. It lacks a modern feel. Also, fine or thin fonts as used by the text ‘Apache’ can also be problematic on some displays. I’d thicken it up a bit. Just my opinion.

Ken


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly<ma...@uxact.ly> <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de<ma...@live.de> <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net<ma...@gmx.net>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
+1 for this one!

On 5/8/19 2:31 PM, James Gosling wrote:
> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all font references:
>
>
>
> This version is only 6K, with no fonts.
>
>> On May 8, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Jan Tosovsky <j....@email.cz> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2019-05-08 Christian Lenz wrote:
>>> A colleague said smth about loading fonts via SVG or render them to get the
>>> path. Smth with Apache Batik? So adding the font with the IDE, load it and
>>> adding that to SVG. I don’t know it exactly, but the Keywords were fonts in
>>> SVG as paths created via Apache Batik.
>> The font can also be embedded as Base64 stream:
>>
>> @font-face {
>> 	font-family: "droid-sans"; src: url(data:font/ttf;base64,AAEAAAARAQAABAAQ ... );
>> }
>>
>> As it is embebded, there is no need for installing the font on user's computer or outlining glyph shapes.
>>
>> That font should be ideally a subset containing just required glyphs (to ensure the minimum size, can be done in e.g. FontForge), but this could violate the font license (IANAL).
>>
>> Btw, Batik parses/translates SVG syntax into Java Graphics2D directives. These can then be rendered on screen or transformed into other outputs (PNG or PDF). I am not aware it can outline font shapes directly.
>>
>> Jan
>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
+1

This looks good!


> On May 8, 2019, at 2:31 PM, James Gosling <ja...@norquay.com> wrote:
> 
> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all font references:
> 
> <NetBEans-Logo-Clean.svg>
> 
> This version is only 6K, with no fonts.
> 
>> On May 8, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Jan Tosovsky <j....@email.cz> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2019-05-08 Christian Lenz wrote:
>>> A colleague said smth about loading fonts via SVG or render them to get the
>>> path. Smth with Apache Batik? So adding the font with the IDE, load it and
>>> adding that to SVG. I don’t know it exactly, but the Keywords were fonts in
>>> SVG as paths created via Apache Batik.
>> 
>> The font can also be embedded as Base64 stream:
>> 
>> @font-face {
>> 	font-family: "droid-sans"; src: url(data:font/ttf;base64,AAEAAAARAQAABAAQ ... );
>> }
>> 
>> As it is embebded, there is no need for installing the font on user's computer or outlining glyph shapes.
>> 
>> That font should be ideally a subset containing just required glyphs (to ensure the minimum size, can be done in e.g. FontForge), but this could violate the font license (IANAL).
>> 
>> Btw, Batik parses/translates SVG syntax into Java Graphics2D directives. These can then be rendered on screen or transformed into other outputs (PNG or PDF). I am not aware it can outline font shapes directly. 
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
Yes, exactly. There's no need to ship a font with NetBeans just to render the splash screen. I'd recommend keeping the auto-generated version number separate from the logo lockup, i.e. don't try to make the splash screen say "[icon] Apache NetBeans 11.0", instead, just say "[icon] Apache NetBeans" in the format David designed, and display the auto-generated version and/or build number elsewhere in the splash screen. This way the logo lockup always look exactly the same, regardless of version number or platform font rendering.

Is someone rewriting the splash screen display logic? The current splash screen code requires the splash screen to be stored as a bitmap (e.g. png)--SVG is not an option. Even if we eventually support SVG file loading, it might be best to keep the splash screen images as PNG, to avoid the need to load a lot of dependencies (e.g. the Batik library) at such an early stage of the NetBeans boot process, and to load/render the splash screen as fast as possible. Multiple resolutions can be provided to support HiDPI screens.

For future SVG image loading support, e.g. for HiDPI icon loading, I already did some work that I can polish up and contribute.

-- Eirik

From: James Gosling <ja...@norquay.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 11:31 PM
To: dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all font references:


This version is only 6K, with no fonts.

> On May 8, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Jan Tosovsky <j....@email.cz> wrote:
>
>
> On 2019-05-08 Christian Lenz wrote:
>> A colleague said smth about loading fonts via SVG or render them to get the
>> path. Smth with Apache Batik? So adding the font with the IDE, load it and
>> adding that to SVG. I don’t know it exactly, but the Keywords were fonts in
>> SVG as paths created via Apache Batik.
>
> The font can also be embedded as Base64 stream:
>
> @font-face {
>        font-family: "droid-sans"; src: url(data:font/ttf;base64,AAEAAAARAQAABAAQ ... );
> }
>
> As it is embebded, there is no need for installing the font on user's computer or outlining glyph shapes.
>
> That font should be ideally a subset containing just required glyphs (to ensure the minimum size, can be done in e.g. FontForge), but this could violate the font license (IANAL).
>
> Btw, Batik parses/translates SVG syntax into Java Graphics2D directives. These can then be rendered on screen or transformed into other outputs (PNG or PDF). I am not aware it can outline font shapes directly.
>
> Jan
>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Excellent, great again a decisive contribution from James Gosling.

Gj


On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 09:45, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> wrote:

> Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach 😊 Looks good enough.
>
>
>
> Von: James Gosling
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
> An: dev
> Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all
> font references:
>
>
>

AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach 😊 Looks good enough.



Von: James Gosling
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
An: dev
Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all font references:



Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by James Gosling <ja...@norquay.com>.
Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all font references:


RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Jan Tosovsky <j....@email.cz>.
On 2019-05-08 Christian Lenz wrote:
> A colleague said smth about loading fonts via SVG or render them to get the
> path. Smth with Apache Batik? So adding the font with the IDE, load it and
> adding that to SVG. I don’t know it exactly, but the Keywords were fonts in
> SVG as paths created via Apache Batik.

The font can also be embedded as Base64 stream:

@font-face {
	font-family: "droid-sans"; src: url(data:font/ttf;base64,AAEAAAARAQAABAAQ ... );
}

As it is embebded, there is no need for installing the font on user's computer or outlining glyph shapes.

That font should be ideally a subset containing just required glyphs (to ensure the minimum size, can be done in e.g. FontForge), but this could violate the font license (IANAL).

Btw, Batik parses/translates SVG syntax into Java Graphics2D directives. These can then be rendered on screen or transformed into other outputs (PNG or PDF). I am not aware it can outline font shapes directly. 

Jan


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AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
A colleague said smth about loading fonts via SVG or render them to get the path. Smth with Apache Batik? So adding the font with the IDE, load it and adding that to SVG. I don’t know it exactly, but the Keywords were fonts in SVG as paths created via Apache Batik.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Gail Anderson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 19:30
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Yes, the Montserrat font is really nice. I like the Splash Screen a lot. Also, a preference for the one without the line, just because it would probably disappear, but both are great.

For those who have a Mac, here’s how to install a Google font on your computer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4w_hwrgrUk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4w_hwrgrUk>

—Gail

> On May 7, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> wrote:
> 
> If you're seeing Times New Roman, it's just because your computer did not have the Montserrat font installed. There's another way to generate SVG files so that the font is not required to display the logo correctly. (My previous email tried to supply such a converted SVG, but it appears I can't send attachments to the list.)
> 
> -- Eirik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> I must admit to not being a fan of Times Roman style fonts as used for the text ‘NetBeans.. It lacks a modern feel. Also, fine or thin fonts as used by the text ‘Apache’ can also be problematic on some displays. I’d thicken it up a bit. Just my opinion.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
> Sent: May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
> To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,
> 
> sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
> But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
> These should fit.
> 
> I attached two versions:
> 
> #Clean
> Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned
> 
> #Seperation Line
> Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names
> 
> We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.
> 
> All the best,
> David
> 
> From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
> Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
> Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey David,
> 
> can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Good question!
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?
> 
> Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?
> 
> Questions, questions,... ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>>> ash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>> 
>> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>> 
>> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>> 
>> -- EIrik
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>> 
>> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>> 
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>> 
>> 
>> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>> 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>>> a sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>> 
>>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
>>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Antonio
>>> 
>>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Gj
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
>>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current 
>>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG 
>>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my 
>>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick 
>>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a 
>>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it 
>>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can 
>>>>>>>>> we get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>> <he...@raiken.de>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga 
>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev 
>>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>; 
>>>>>>>>>> Christian Lenz 
>>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>>; 
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 
>>>>>>>>>> <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.incubat
>>>>>>>>>> or.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < 
>>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no 
>>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the 
>>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do 
>>>>>>>>>> not have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0
>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE 
>>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world 
>>>>>>>>>>> where nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project 
>>>>>>>>>>> ;P
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly<ma...@uxact.ly> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de<ma...@live.de> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net<ma...@gmx.net>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel 
>>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version 
>>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image 
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Gail Anderson <ga...@asgteach.com>.
Yes, the Montserrat font is really nice. I like the Splash Screen a lot. Also, a preference for the one without the line, just because it would probably disappear, but both are great.

For those who have a Mac, here’s how to install a Google font on your computer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4w_hwrgrUk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4w_hwrgrUk>

—Gail

> On May 7, 2019, at 5:55 PM, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> wrote:
> 
> If you're seeing Times New Roman, it's just because your computer did not have the Montserrat font installed. There's another way to generate SVG files so that the font is not required to display the logo correctly. (My previous email tried to supply such a converted SVG, but it appears I can't send attachments to the list.)
> 
> -- Eirik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> I must admit to not being a fan of Times Roman style fonts as used for the text ‘NetBeans.. It lacks a modern feel. Also, fine or thin fonts as used by the text ‘Apache’ can also be problematic on some displays. I’d thicken it up a bit. Just my opinion.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
> Sent: May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
> To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,
> 
> sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
> But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
> These should fit.
> 
> I attached two versions:
> 
> #Clean
> Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned
> 
> #Seperation Line
> Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names
> 
> We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.
> 
> All the best,
> David
> 
> From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
> Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
> Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Hey David,
> 
> can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> Good question!
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?
> 
> Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?
> 
> Questions, questions,... ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>>> ash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>> 
>> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>> 
>> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>> 
>> -- EIrik
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>> 
>> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>> 
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>> 
>> 
>> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>> 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>>> a sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>> 
>>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
>>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Antonio
>>> 
>>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Gj
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
>>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current 
>>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG 
>>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my 
>>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick 
>>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a 
>>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it 
>>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can 
>>>>>>>>> we get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>> <he...@raiken.de>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga 
>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev 
>>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>; 
>>>>>>>>>> Christian Lenz 
>>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>>; 
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 
>>>>>>>>>> <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.incubat
>>>>>>>>>> or.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < 
>>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no 
>>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the 
>>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do 
>>>>>>>>>> not have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0
>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE 
>>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world 
>>>>>>>>>>> where nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project 
>>>>>>>>>>> ;P
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly<ma...@uxact.ly> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de<ma...@live.de> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net<ma...@gmx.net>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel 
>>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version 
>>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image 
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
If you're seeing Times New Roman, it's just because your computer did not have the Montserrat font installed. There's another way to generate SVG files so that the font is not required to display the logo correctly. (My previous email tried to supply such a converted SVG, but it appears I can't send attachments to the list.)

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:55 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

I must admit to not being a fan of Times Roman style fonts as used for the text ‘NetBeans.. It lacks a modern feel. Also, fine or thin fonts as used by the text ‘Apache’ can also be problematic on some displays. I’d thicken it up a bit. Just my opinion.

Ken


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>> ash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spl
>> a sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current 
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG 
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my 
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick 
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a 
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it 
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can 
>>>>>>>> we get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz 
>>>>>>>> <he...@raiken.de>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga 
>>>>>>>>> <ge...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev 
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>; 
>>>>>>>>> Christian Lenz 
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>>; 
>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 
>>>>>>>>> <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@netbeans.incubat
>>>>>>>>> or.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < 
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no 
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the 
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do 
>>>>>>>>> not have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0
>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE 
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world 
>>>>>>>>>> where nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project 
>>>>>>>>>> ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly<ma...@uxact.ly> 
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de<ma...@live.de> 
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net<ma...@gmx.net>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel 
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our 
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version 
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image 
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>.
I must admit to not being a fan of Times Roman style fonts as used for the text ‘NetBeans.. It lacks a modern feel. Also, fine or thin fonts as used by the text ‘Apache’ can also be problematic on some displays. I’d thicken it up a bit. Just my opinion.

Ken


From: David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
Sent: May 7, 2019 3:46 AM
To: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey Chris, Hey Antonio,

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here.
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month.
These should fit.

I attached two versions:

#Clean
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts.

All the best,
David

From: Christian Lenz<ma...@gmx.net>
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: David Schulz<ma...@raiken.de>
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio<ma...@vieiro.net>
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
>
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
>
> -- EIrik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
>
>
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly<ma...@uxact.ly> <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de<ma...@live.de> <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net<ma...@gmx.net>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Hey Chris, Hey Antonio, 

sure, „Official“ could be the hard part here. 
But we have a logo from our Website refresh project last month. 
These should fit. 

I attached two versions:

#Clean 
Clean logo with new spacing so that it looks more aligned 

#Seperation Line
Same like „Clean“ but with a thin separation line between the logo and the logo names

We used the „Montserrat“ as font for the NetBeans Branding. You can download it from Google Fonts. 

All the best, 
David

From: Christian Lenz
Sent: 05 May 2019 11:37
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Cc: David Schulz
Subject: AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
> 
> -- EIrik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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AW: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Hey David,

can you help here out Maybe, please? 😊


Cheers

Chris



Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Mai 2019 20:28
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
> 
> -- EIrik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>> lists
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Good question!

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBeans 
icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"?

Also, which is the typeface used? Is it open source?

Questions, questions,... ;-)

Cheers,
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 20:06, Eirik Bakke escribió:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).
> 
> Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.
> 
> -- EIrik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> 
> D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png
> 
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We could use this as a template, right?
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
>> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
>>
>>
>> This is a 640x396 png file.
>>
>> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455
>> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current
>>>> build number/release number.
>>>>
>>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either.
>>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG
>>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my
>>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>>> showing
>>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick
>>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a
>>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it
>>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>>     2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>>     3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions
>>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>>        those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>>     4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>>     5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> says
>>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we
>>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no
>>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the
>>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not
>>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint
>>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE
>>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where
>>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel
>>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our
>>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version
>>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image
>>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+
>>>>>>>>>>> lists
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> ists
>>>>>>>>>>
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png

Is this the new splash screen for NetBeans? Or is it just a test image? It has a number of problems from a graphic design perspective (the official logo was modified by putting a shadow under it, the logotype is in an unofficial color & typeface, the text is blurred, and there are adjoining saturated complimentary colors).

Do we have a single official NetBeans logo that combines the NetBean icon with the words "Apache NetBeans"? If so, the official combination (positioning, size, typeface, and color of text relative to the icon) should be used on the splash screen as well. The logo on the top-hand corner of https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0 looks very good, for instance.

-- EIrik

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> 
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:14 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png


El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> We could use this as a template, right?
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/spla
> sh-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn
> 
> 
> This is a 640x396 png file.
> 
> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
> 
> Thanks
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current 
>>> build number/release number.
>>>
>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. 
>>> That causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG 
>>>> version (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my 
>>>> eyes are down, I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>> showing
>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick 
>>>>>> test with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a 
>>>>>> chance to add the version text programmatically, though it 
>>>>>> requires some code changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one 
>>>>>>> that
>>> says
>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we 
>>>>>>> get it, can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-
>>>>>>>> 702e/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-
>>>>>>>> eba0/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz 
>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans 
>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < 
>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no 
>>>>>>>> text version of it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the 
>>>>>>>> textural elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not 
>>>>>>>> have to generate it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint 
>>>>>>>>> without a
>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a 
>>>>>>>>> screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE 
>>>>>>>>> looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where 
>>>>>>>>> nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; 
>>>>>>>>> Apache NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel 
>>>>>>>>> <kaiuwepel@asia.com <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our 
>>>>>>>>>> master branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version 
>>>>>>>>>> showing a 10 version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the 
>>>>>>>>>> splash screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image 
>>>>>>>>>> would be good as well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
D'oh, there's a missing 'g' at the end of the link...

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.png


El 4/5/19 a las 17:27, Antonio escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> We could use this as a template, right?
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn 
> 
> 
> This is a 640x396 png file.
> 
> If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
> (i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).
> 
> Thanks
> Antonio
> 
> El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>> Excellent, great, thanks.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
>>> number/release number.
>>>
>>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. That
>>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
>>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are 
>>>> down,
>>>> I need to go to sleep now...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>>> showing
>>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
>>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
>>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions 
>>>>>> (right now
>>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
>>> says
>>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it 
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>>>>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
>>>>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,

We could use this as a template, right?

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vieiro/netbeans-website/feature/splash-screen/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/images/splash-640x.pn

This is a 640x396 png file.

If nobody complains then I'll use this as a basis for NETBEANS-2455 
(i.e., creating an Ant task or similar that can imprint the image).

Thanks
Antonio

El 4/5/19 a las 9:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Excellent, great, thanks.
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> 
>> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
>> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
>> number/release number.
>>
>> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. That
>> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
>>> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
>>> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are down,
>>> I need to go to sleep now...
>>>
>>> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
>> showing
>>>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>> <la...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
>>>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
>>>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>>>    2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
>> (*nix/Windows)
>>>>>    3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
>>>>>       those are just displaying in the log)
>>>>>    4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>>>    5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>>>
>>>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
>> says
>>>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>>>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
>>>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Excellent, great, thanks.

Gj

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:

> Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank
> template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build
> number/release number.
>
> 473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. That
> causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version
> > (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are down,
> > I need to go to sleep now...
> >
> > On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not
> showing
> >> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
> >> <la...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
> >>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
> >>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
> >>> changes as well. The main idea:
> >>>
> >>>   1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
> >>>   2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec
> (*nix/Windows)
> >>>   3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
> >>>      those are just displaying in the log)
> >>>   4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
> >>>   5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
> >>>
> >>> This could be an easy level improvement.
> >>>
> >>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that
> says
> >>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get
> >>>> it,
> >>>> can we put it into main?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enjoy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> >>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
> >>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
> >>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
> >>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> >>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the image!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
> >>>>> awesome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
> >>>>> version of it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 to these plans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gj
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
> >>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to
> >>>>> generate
> >>>>> it each and every time we release something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
> >>>>> number.
> >>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
> >>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
> >>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the best,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> >>>>>> system design thinking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 10719 Berlin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> >>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> >>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
> >>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> >>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
> >>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
> >>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
> >>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
> >>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Geertjan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> >>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> Kai
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> >>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> >>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> >>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be
> >>>>>>> good as
> >>>>>>> well!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Sure, I can do that in the next days. The idea is to have a blank 
template that we can imprint (with an Ant task) with the current build 
number/release number.

473x300 it's too small, though, and it's not a golden ratio either. That 
causes tired eyes :-) Let's improve that too.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 04/05/2019 a las 8:15, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> @Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version 
> (named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are down, 
> I need to go to sleep now...
> 
> On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not showing
>> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>> <la...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
>>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
>>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>>
>>>   1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>>   2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec (*nix/Windows)
>>>   3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
>>>      those are just displaying in the log)
>>>   4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>>   5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>>
>>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>>
>>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>>
>>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says
>>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get 
>>>> it,
>>>> can we put it into main?
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>>
>>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>>>>> version of it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to 
>>>>> generate
>>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>>>>> number.
>>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be 
>>>>>>> good as
>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
@Antonio, can you help GJ, we need a AFAIK 473x300 pixel PNG version 
(named as gif) of the empty splash screen in the repo. my eyes are down, 
I need to go to sleep now...

On 5/3/19 11:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not showing
> Apache NetBeans 10 during development?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
>> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
>> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
>> changes as well. The main idea:
>>
>>   1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>>   2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec (*nix/Windows)
>>   3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
>>      those are just displaying in the log)
>>   4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>>   5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>>
>> This could be an easy level improvement.
>>
>> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>>
>> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says
>>> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get it,
>>> can we put it into main?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>>>
>>>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>>>
>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>>>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>>>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the image!
>>>>
>>>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
>>>> awesome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>>>
>>>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>>>> version of it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 to these plans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>>>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate
>>>> it each and every time we release something.
>>>>
>>>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>>>
>>>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>>>> number.
>>>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>>>
>>>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the
>>>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>>>> system design thinking
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>>>
>>>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
>> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
>>>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Kai
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Can we already put in the empty ones right now, so that we're not showing
Apache NetBeans 10 during development?

Gj

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test
> with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to
> add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code
> changes as well. The main idea:
>
>  1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
>  2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec (*nix/Windows)
>  3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
>     those are just displaying in the log)
>  4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
>  5. Make sure that --nosplash still works
>
> This could be an easy level improvement.
>
> Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.
>
> On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says
> > 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get it,
> > can we put it into main?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
> >>
> >> Developer Link including Assets:
> >>
> >> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
> >>
> >> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Enjoy,
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> >> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
> >> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
> >> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
> >> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> >> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the image!
> >>
> >> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
> >> awesome.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
> >>
> >> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
> >> version of it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 to these plans.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
> >> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate
> >> it each and every time we release something.
> >>
> >> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
> >>
> >> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
> >>> Hello there,
> >>>
> >>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
> >>>
> >>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
> >> number.
> >>> Or should we add a number there?
> >>>
> >>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
> >>>
> >>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the
> >>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
> >>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
> >>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> >>> system design thinking
> >>>
> >>> Kurfürstendamm 28
> >>>
> >>> 10719 Berlin
> >>>
> >>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> >>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> >>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
> >>>
> >>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
> >>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
> >>>
> >>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> >>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> >>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
> >>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <mailto:
> christian.lenz@gmx.net>
> >>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
> >>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >>>
> >>> Agreed. David, can you help?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Geertjan
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
> >>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> >>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Kai
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> >>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> >>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> >>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> >>>> well!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you in advance!
> >>>>
> >>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
With Antonio we have one which says nothing, I just made a quick test 
with it the other day it is kind of working well, we have a chance to 
add the version text programmatically, though it requires some code 
changes as well. The main idea:

 1. Replace the splash screens with the empty ones
 2. Remove the --splash parameter processing from nbexec (*nix/Windows)
 3. Fix the Splash screen processing, handle the exceptions (right now
    those are just displaying in the log)
 4. Add version display in the splash-screen update code
 5. Make sure that --nosplash still works

This could be an easy level improvement.

Later on we could add some support for HDPI as well.

On 5/3/19 10:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says
> 'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get it,
> can we put it into main?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:
>
>> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>>
>> Developer Link including Assets:
>>
>> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>>
>>
>>
>> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>>
>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
>> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
>> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
>> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the image!
>>
>> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>>
>>
>>
>> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
>> awesome.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>>
>> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
>> version of it?
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 to these plans.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
>> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate
>> it each and every time we release something.
>>
>> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>>
>> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>>>
>>> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
>> number.
>>> Or should we add a number there?
>>>
>>> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>>>
>>> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>>>
>>> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the
>>> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
>>> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
>>> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
>>> system design thinking
>>>
>>> Kurfürstendamm 28
>>>
>>> 10719 Berlin
>>>
>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
>>> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
>>> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>>>
>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
>>> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>>>
>>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
>>> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
>>> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
>>> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
>>> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
>>> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>>>
>>> Agreed. David, can you help?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Geertjan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
>>> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
>>> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
>>>> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
>>>> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>>>>
>>>> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
>>>> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
>>>> well!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>
>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Do we now have a splash screen for the main branch, i.e., one that says
'dev' instead of a specific number? Do we have it, where, can we get it,
can we put it into main?

Gj

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:14 PM David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote:

> Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now:
>
> Developer Link including Assets:
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/
>
>
>
> Click Dummy Link for Comments:
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>
>
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *26 April 2019 23:09
> *To: *dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Cc: *David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz
> <ch...@gmx.net>; Apache NetBeans
> <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the image!
>
> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>
>
>
> +1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
> awesome.
>
>
>
>
> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>
> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
> version of it?
>
>
>
> +1 to these plans.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate
> it each and every time we release something.
>
> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>
> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
> >
> > And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
> number.
> >
> > Or should we add a number there?
> >
> > Btw. We also have our web project here:
> >
> > https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >
> > Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the
> > IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
> > especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
> > looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --
> >
> > uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> > system design thinking
> >
> > Kurfürstendamm 28
> >
> > 10719 Berlin
> >
> > Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> > Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> > Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
> >
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
> > <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
> >
> > *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> > *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> > *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
> > <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
> > *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
> > NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> > *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >
> > Agreed. David, can you help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geertjan
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
> > <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> > (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kai
> >
> >
> > On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> > >
> > > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > > well!
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance!
> > >
> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> > <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> > <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> > <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> > <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Sure,  I’m not 100% happy with it, but it’s ok for now: 
Developer Link including Assets:
https://xd.adobe.com/spec/061f56d9-e59f-42aa-7731-daee036cedae-702e/

Click Dummy Link for Comments:
https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/ 

Enjoy, 
Dave

From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 26 April 2019 23:09
To: dev
Cc: David Schulz; Christian Lenz; Apache NetBeans
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!



On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the image!

The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.

+1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks awesome.
 

As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?

Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text 
version of it?

+1 to these plans.

Gj
 

I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural 
elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate 
it each and every time we release something.

Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.

On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>
> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a number.
>
> Or should we add a number there?
>
> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>
> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the 
> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing 
> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE 
> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>
> All the best,
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> system design thinking
>
> Kurfürstendamm 28
>
> 10719 Berlin
>
> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache 
> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> Agreed. David, can you help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com 
> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>
> Thanks!
> Kai
>
>
> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >
> > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > well!
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the image!
>
> The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.
>

+1, when can we get it from you David, we need your design, it looks
awesome.


>
> As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?
>
> Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text
> version of it?
>

+1 to these plans.

Gj


>
> I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural
> elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate
> it each and every time we release something.
>
> Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.
>
> On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
> >
> > And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a
> number.
> >
> > Or should we add a number there?
> >
> > Btw. We also have our web project here:
> >
> > https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
> >
> > Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the
> > IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing
> > especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE
> > looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --
> >
> > uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> > system design thinking
> >
> > Kurfürstendamm 28
> >
> > 10719 Berlin
> >
> > Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> > Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> > Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
> >
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing
> > <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
> >
> > *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> > *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> > *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz
> > <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
> > *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache
> > NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> > *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
> >
> > Agreed. David, can you help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geertjan
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com
> > <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> > (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kai
> >
> >
> > On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> > >
> > > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > > well!
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance!
> > >
> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > >
> > >
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the image!

The website looks quite sexy and modern, I like it.

As of the splash, could we have the recipe for it?

Also can we have one just with the background + small logo, no text 
version of it?

I'd like to experiment with a Splash screen where all the textural 
elements are just drawn programmatically, so we do not have to generate 
it each and every time we release something.

Also a guidance of the used fonts and metrics could be handy.

On 4/26/19 12:26 PM, David Schulz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
>
> And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a number.
>
> Or should we add a number there?
>
> Btw. We also have our web project here:
>
> https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/
>
> Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the 
> IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing 
> especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE 
> looks rather sexy. Next project ;P
>
> All the best,
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> uxactly GmbH <http://uxact.ly/>
> system design thinking
>
> Kurfürstendamm 28
>
> 10719 Berlin
>
> Tel: 0174 933 85 36
> Mail: david@uxact.ly <ma...@uxact.ly>
> Skype: raiken@live.de <ma...@live.de>
>
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-schulz> | Xing 
> <https://www.xing.com/profile/David_Schulz>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ma...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *26 April 2019 13:09
> *To: *dev <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>; David Schulz 
> <ma...@raiken.de>; Christian Lenz <ma...@gmx.net>
> *Cc: *Laszlo Kishalmi <ma...@gmail.com>; Apache 
> NetBeans <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> Agreed. David, can you help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <kaiuwepel@asia.com 
> <ma...@asia.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>
> Thanks!
> Kai
>
>
> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >
> > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > well!
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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RE: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by David Schulz <he...@raiken.de>.
Hello there,

the Splashscreens should show the 11 as version number?
And on the DEV version, it should show just the DEV hint without a number.
Or should we add a number there? 



Btw. We also have our web project here: 
https://xd.adobe.com/view/9d918c46-0f5d-482c-661e-0804b1d5c80e-eba0/ 
Any feedback? I already replaced the big logo with a screenshot of the IDE, but my opinion is still that our IDE looks not appealing especially in this competitive world where nearly every modern IDE looks rather sexy. Next project ;P

All the best, 
Dave

--

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system design thinking 

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From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 26 April 2019 13:09
To: dev; David Schulz; Christian Lenz
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi; Apache NetBeans
Subject: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Agreed. David, can you help?

Thanks,

Geertjan

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <ka...@asia.com> wrote:
Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
(Mostly I also work with the dev version only)

Thanks!
Kai


On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>
> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> well!
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
>
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Agreed. David, can you help?

Thanks,

Geertjan

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kai Uwe Pel <ka...@asia.com> wrote:

> Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
> (Mostly I also work with the dev version only)
>
> Thanks!
> Kai
>
>
> On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> > branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> > version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> >
> > Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> > screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> > well!
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
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Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

Posted by Kai Uwe Pel <ka...@asia.com>.
Yes, I fully agree with Laszlo as well.
(Mostly I also work with the dev version only)

Thanks!
Kai


On 4/26/2019 8:53 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master
> branch. It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10
> version on splash even after the 11.0 got released.
>
> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash
> screen image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as
> well!
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
>
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Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
+1 Way to go!

El 09/05/2019 a las 20:26, Eirik Bakke escribió:
> I added an example of how to do this as attachments to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455 . (My email attachments seem to get stripped out on this mailing list.)
> 
> -- Eirik
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Vieiro <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:43 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)
> 
> So how do you propose to imprint the build number?
> 
> El El jue, 9 may 2019 a las 12:34, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> escribió:
> 
>> There should be no need to bundle the Montserrat font here--see my
>> email in the other thread. Just treat the "[icon] Apache NetBeans IDE"
>> logo lockup as constant, pre-rendered graphics, and render the version
>> and/or build number elsewhere in the splash screen using the standard
>> dialog font or whatever.
>>
>> -- Eirik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:55 AM
>> To: dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash
>> Screens!)
>>
>> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 00:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>> 4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing
>>> the proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time
>>> when imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG
>>> files or generating any other UI asset.
>>
>> The build can use Maven coordinates too can't it?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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RE: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
I added an example of how to do this as attachments to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455 . (My email attachments seem to get stripped out on this mailing list.)

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Vieiro <an...@vieiro.net> 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

So how do you propose to imprint the build number?

El El jue, 9 may 2019 a las 12:34, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> escribió:

> There should be no need to bundle the Montserrat font here--see my 
> email in the other thread. Just treat the "[icon] Apache NetBeans IDE" 
> logo lockup as constant, pre-rendered graphics, and render the version 
> and/or build number elsewhere in the splash screen using the standard 
> dialog font or whatever.
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:55 AM
> To: dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash 
> Screens!)
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 00:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> > 4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing 
> > the proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time 
> > when imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG 
> > files or generating any other UI asset.
>
> The build can use Maven coordinates too can't it?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Antonio Vieiro <an...@vieiro.net>.
So how do you propose to imprint the build number?

El El jue, 9 may 2019 a las 12:34, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> escribió:

> There should be no need to bundle the Montserrat font here--see my email
> in the other thread. Just treat the "[icon] Apache NetBeans IDE" logo
> lockup as constant, pre-rendered graphics, and render the version and/or
> build number elsewhere in the splash screen using the standard dialog font
> or whatever.
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:55 AM
> To: dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 00:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> > 4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing the
> > proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time when
> > imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG files
> > or generating any other UI asset.
>
> The build can use Maven coordinates too can't it?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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RE: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
There should be no need to bundle the Montserrat font here--see my email in the other thread. Just treat the "[icon] Apache NetBeans IDE" logo lockup as constant, pre-rendered graphics, and render the version and/or build number elsewhere in the splash screen using the standard dialog font or whatever.

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:55 AM
To: dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 00:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> 4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing the 
> proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time when 
> imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG files 
> or generating any other UI asset.

The build can use Maven coordinates too can't it?

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 00:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> 4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing the
> proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time when
> imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG files or
> generating any other UI asset.

The build can use Maven coordinates too can't it?

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
So I understand the need to have some indication of build however how does this a “release” (I.e. 11.0, 11.1, etc.) number? Or does this change with build type or something?

Maybe a smaller size for the build detail with a larger number for “release” number?

Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On May 8, 2019 at 6:30:21 PM CDT, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> 3- _Main problems_ now seems to be
>
> - the current splash screen makes the final result not very legible.
> See, for instance,
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12968090/splash.png
>
> we're imprinting with ${buildnum} which may be very long.
>
> - Also the splash screen makes the NetBeans logo very small and hardly
> visible (IMHO).
>
> It would be great if someone could modify the current splash screen (or
> redesign it) to make ${buildnum} more legible and the logo more visible.
>
>

Splash Screen Update (was Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!)

Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,

A quick update on the status of the splash screens:

1- We're currently trying to solve some infra problems (restoring access 
to PMC secrets repository after becoming TLP, re-encrypting OSU OSL keys 
to host binaries with updated NetBeans Team PGP keys, etc.).

2- We're tracking progress in 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2455

3- _Main problems_ now seems to be

	- the current splash screen makes the final result not very legible. 
See, for instance,

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12968090/splash.png

we're imprinting with ${buildnum} which may be very long.

	- Also the splash screen makes the NetBeans logo very small and hardly 
visible (IMHO).

It would be great if someone could modify the current splash screen (or 
redesign it) to make ${buildnum} more legible and the logo more visible.

4- We will be uploading some TrueType fonts to OSU OSL (inclusing the 
proposed Montserrat font), so we can use these at build time when 
imprinting PNG files (current preferred solution) or using SVG files or 
generating any other UI asset.

Cheers,
Antonio


El 26/04/2019 a las 8:53, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> Dear all,
> 
> We need Splash Screens for the Development Version to our master branch. 
> It looks quite stupid to see the dev version showing a 10 version on 
> splash even after the 11.0 got released.
> 
> Also we need the know-how to be public how to generate the splash screen 
> image. A simple Splash Screen background image would be good as well!
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> 
> Laszlo Kishalmi
> 
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