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Posted to dev@daffodil.apache.org by Mike Beckerle <mb...@apache.org> on 2022/03/18 20:26:32 UTC

GPG signature verification warnings

When verifying GPG signatures recently I got this warning:

gpg --verify ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm.asc
./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
gpg: Signature made Thu 17 Mar 2022 04:12:45 PM EDT
gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) <
jinterrante@apache.org>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 8584 9EC0 3742 62C7 110C  A744 04A7 35FC 1A36 AE84
PASSED GPG Signature Check

Note the WARNING in the above.

When I verify the 3.2.1 source jar (which I signed) I get:

gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc
 apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
gpg: Signature made Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:18:16 PM EST
gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) <
mbeckerle@apache.org>" [ultimate]

No warning.

So there is something different about the way my code signing key was
established.

Mike Beckerle
Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org
OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com

Re: GPG signature verification warnings

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Resources:

https://infra.apache.org/release-signing.html#valid-untrusted-vs-invalid-trusted
https://infra.apache.org/release-signing.html#web-of-trust

Best,
Dave

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:45 PM, Interrante, John A (GE Research, US) <Jo...@ge.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's either that or it's even simpler than that.  I see the same warning when verifying Mike's signature: 
> 
> interran@GH3WPL13E:/u/Downloads$ gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
> gpg: Signature made Mon Dec 20 09:18:16 2021 PST
> gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
> gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) <mb...@apache.org>" [unknown]
> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
> Primary key fingerprint: 4B6A 956D 3ED3 6502 6880  2E37 274B 8F14 13A6 80AF
> 
> interran@GH3WPL13E:/u/Downloads$ gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.3.0-src.zip.asc apache-daffodil-3.3.0-src.zip
> gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 17 13:12:45 2022 PDT
> gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
> gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) <ji...@apache.org>" [ultimate]
> 
> I haven't participated in a key signing party and I'm not sure where I would get a trust chain to import into my key ring to verify Mike's signature belongs to him.
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:38 PM
> To: dev@daffodil.apache.org
> Subject: EXT: Re: GPG signature verification warnings
> 
> WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.
> 
> Mike you probably participated in a Keysigning party and John has not.
> 
> Look up keysigning on www.Apache.org and have a “party” to sign his key. If that’s not possible right now that’s ok.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Mike Beckerle <mb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When verifying GPG signatures recently I got this warning:
>> 
>> gpg --verify ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm.asc
>> ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
>> gpg: Signature made Thu 17 Mar 2022 04:12:45 PM EDT
>> gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
>> gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) < 
>> jinterrante@apache.org>" [unknown]
>> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
>> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
>> owner.
>> Primary key fingerprint: 8584 9EC0 3742 62C7 110C  A744 04A7 35FC 1A36 
>> AE84 PASSED GPG Signature Check
>> 
>> Note the WARNING in the above.
>> 
>> When I verify the 3.2.1 source jar (which I signed) I get:
>> 
>> gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc 
>> apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
>> gpg: Signature made Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:18:16 PM EST
>> gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
>> gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) < 
>> mbeckerle@apache.org>" [ultimate]
>> 
>> No warning.
>> 
>> So there is something different about the way my code signing key was 
>> established.
>> 
>> Mike Beckerle
>> Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair 
>> | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
>> Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com
> 


GPG signature verification warnings

Posted by "Interrante, John A (GE Research, US)" <Jo...@ge.com>.
Yes, it's either that or it's even simpler than that.  I see the same warning when verifying Mike's signature: 

interran@GH3WPL13E:/u/Downloads$ gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
gpg: Signature made Mon Dec 20 09:18:16 2021 PST
gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) <mb...@apache.org>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 4B6A 956D 3ED3 6502 6880  2E37 274B 8F14 13A6 80AF

interran@GH3WPL13E:/u/Downloads$ gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.3.0-src.zip.asc apache-daffodil-3.3.0-src.zip
gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 17 13:12:45 2022 PDT
gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) <ji...@apache.org>" [ultimate]

I haven't participated in a key signing party and I'm not sure where I would get a trust chain to import into my key ring to verify Mike's signature belongs to him.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:38 PM
To: dev@daffodil.apache.org
Subject: EXT: Re: GPG signature verification warnings

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Mike you probably participated in a Keysigning party and John has not.

Look up keysigning on www.Apache.org and have a “party” to sign his key. If that’s not possible right now that’s ok.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Mike Beckerle <mb...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> When verifying GPG signatures recently I got this warning:
> 
> gpg --verify ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm.asc
> ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> gpg: Signature made Thu 17 Mar 2022 04:12:45 PM EDT
> gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
> gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) < 
> jinterrante@apache.org>" [unknown]
> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
> owner.
> Primary key fingerprint: 8584 9EC0 3742 62C7 110C  A744 04A7 35FC 1A36 
> AE84 PASSED GPG Signature Check
> 
> Note the WARNING in the above.
> 
> When I verify the 3.2.1 source jar (which I signed) I get:
> 
> gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc 
> apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
> gpg: Signature made Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:18:16 PM EST
> gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
> gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) < 
> mbeckerle@apache.org>" [ultimate]
> 
> No warning.
> 
> So there is something different about the way my code signing key was 
> established.
> 
> Mike Beckerle
> Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair 
> | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
> Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com


Re: GPG signature verification warnings

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Mike you probably participated in a Keysigning party and John has not.

Look up keysigning on www.Apache.org and have a “party” to sign his key. If that’s not possible right now that’s ok.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Mike Beckerle <mb...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> When verifying GPG signatures recently I got this warning:
> 
> gpg --verify ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm.asc
> ./apache-daffodil-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> gpg: Signature made Thu 17 Mar 2022 04:12:45 PM EDT
> gpg:                using RSA key 85849EC0374262C7110CA74404A735FC1A36AE84
> gpg: Good signature from "John Interrante (Code Signing Key) <
> jinterrante@apache.org>" [unknown]
> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
> owner.
> Primary key fingerprint: 8584 9EC0 3742 62C7 110C  A744 04A7 35FC 1A36 AE84
> PASSED GPG Signature Check
> 
> Note the WARNING in the above.
> 
> When I verify the 3.2.1 source jar (which I signed) I get:
> 
> gpg --verify apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip.asc
> apache-daffodil-3.2.1-src.zip
> gpg: Signature made Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:18:16 PM EST
> gpg:                using RSA key 4B6A956D3ED3650268802E37274B8F1413A680AF
> gpg: Good signature from "Michael J. Beckerle (Code Signing Key) <
> mbeckerle@apache.org>" [ultimate]
> 
> No warning.
> 
> So there is something different about the way my code signing key was
> established.
> 
> Mike Beckerle
> Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org
> OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
> Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com