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HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Folks,

How do you feel about releasing HttpClient 3.1 (final)?

Oleg


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Re: Fwd: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by "Asankha C. Perera" <as...@wso2.com>.
Paul

This shouldnt, as we now use the NIO client.. and not the commons sender 
for outgoing transport anymore.. Anyway I will validate this doesnt have 
an impact

asankha

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>
> Do we have any concerns?
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> Paul
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> Folks,
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> How do you feel about releasing HttpClient 3.1 (final)?
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Fwd: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Folks

Do we have any concerns?

Paul

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Date: Feb 12, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?
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Folks,

How do you feel about releasing HttpClient 3.1 (final)?

Oleg


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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com>.
Think so.

Mike

On 3/2/07, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:25 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > On 14/02/07, Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > > > Hi OLeg,
> > > >
> > > > > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > > > > is cut
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> > > > >
> >
> > It seems this has been applied ... so does this mean HttpClient 3.1
> > can now be released?
> >
> > I'm working my way towards a JMeter release, and would like to include
> > the latest HttpClient jars if possible.
> >
> > No big deal if that is not about to happen - the users can always
> > update the HttpClient jar separately.
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
>
> There are no open issues targeted for 3.1 RC1. Folks, shall I call a
> vote on 3.1 RC1 release?
>
> Oleg
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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:25 +0000, sebb wrote:
> On 14/02/07, Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > > Hi OLeg,
> > >
> > > > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > > > is cut
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> > > >
> 
> It seems this has been applied ... so does this mean HttpClient 3.1
> can now be released?
> 
> I'm working my way towards a JMeter release, and would like to include
> the latest HttpClient jars if possible.
> 
> No big deal if that is not about to happen - the users can always
> update the HttpClient jar separately.
> 
> Sebastian
> 

There are no open issues targeted for 3.1 RC1. Folks, shall I call a
vote on 3.1 RC1 release?

Oleg

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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 14/02/07, Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.
>
> Mike
>
> On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > Hi OLeg,
> >
> > > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > > is cut
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> > >

It seems this has been applied ... so does this mean HttpClient 3.1
can now be released?

I'm working my way towards a JMeter release, and would like to include
the latest HttpClient jars if possible.

No big deal if that is not about to happen - the users can always
update the HttpClient jar separately.

Sebastian

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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 13:25 -0700, Bindul Bhowmik wrote:
> On 2/14/07, Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > > Hi OLeg,
> > >
> > > > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > > > is cut
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> > > >
> > > > 3.1-RC1 maybe?
> > >
> > > Yes and yes.
> > >
> > > If Mike doesn't find time to look into the issue,
> > > I'll dig into it this week-end.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >   Roland
> > >
> > >
> 
> All,
> 
> An email on the user thread[1][2] got me thinking. Would it be worth
> to add the <code>shutdown()</code> method to the HttpConnectionManager
> interface? Two of the three implementations of the interface already
> support the shutdown method.
> 
> If there is consensus on implementing this, I could provide a patch
> (and a JIRA issue) for this.
> 
> I understand that this might break compatibility for applications
> which have implemented their own connection managers. So, if the
> method is introduced, is it worth getting into 3.1 or should it be
> deffered until 4.0?
> 

Hi Bindul,

An introduction of a new method to the HttpConnectionManager interface
would render HttpClient 3.1 binary incompatible with HttpClient 3.x. We
just can't do that. This will have to wait until 4.0

Cheers,

Oleg


> Regards,
> Bindul
> 
> [1]: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-httpclient-user/200702.mbox/%3c8a6db32b0702151052o217da5bfr1ffdf8e93ec2a732@mail.gmail.com%3e
> [2]: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-httpclient-user/200702.mbox/%3c882a6a7e0702151151o243ca2bdv89bfd2bcf91c1bef@mail.gmail.com%3e


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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Bindul Bhowmik <bi...@gmail.com>.
Roland,

On 2/18/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> Hello Bindul,
>
> > An email on the user thread[1][2] got me thinking. Would it be worth
> > to add the <code>shutdown()</code> method to the HttpConnectionManager
> > interface? Two of the three implementations of the interface already
> > support the shutdown method.
>
> Which is the third one? I know only of SimpleHCM and MultiThreadedHCM.
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/apidocs/org/apache/commons/httpclient/HttpConnectionManager.html
>

There is DummyConnectionManager - an inner class of ProxyClient.

Besides, there are three implementations in the test cases -
TimeoutHttpConnectionManager (an inner class of
TestIdleConnectionTimeout), AccessibleHttpConnectionManager (a
subclass of SimpleHttpConnectionManager) and
NoHostHttpConnectionManager.

> > I understand that this might break compatibility for applications
> > which have implemented their own connection managers. So, if the
> > method is introduced, is it worth getting into 3.1 or should it be
> > deffered until 4.0?
>
> I don't think this is worth breaking compatibility. Applications will
> typically deal with only one type of connection manager, so casting
> from the interface to the implementation should be acceptable. Or
> keeping the connection manager in an attribute with the class type.
>
> HttpConn 4.0 will have shutdown() in the connection manager interface.
>

Agree.

> cheers,
>   Roland
>
>

Regards,
Bindul

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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hello Bindul,

> An email on the user thread[1][2] got me thinking. Would it be worth
> to add the <code>shutdown()</code> method to the HttpConnectionManager
> interface? Two of the three implementations of the interface already
> support the shutdown method.

Which is the third one? I know only of SimpleHCM and MultiThreadedHCM.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/apidocs/org/apache/commons/httpclient/HttpConnectionManager.html

> I understand that this might break compatibility for applications
> which have implemented their own connection managers. So, if the
> method is introduced, is it worth getting into 3.1 or should it be
> deffered until 4.0?

I don't think this is worth breaking compatibility. Applications will
typically deal with only one type of connection manager, so casting
from the interface to the implementation should be acceptable. Or
keeping the connection manager in an attribute with the class type.

HttpConn 4.0 will have shutdown() in the connection manager interface.

cheers,
  Roland


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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Bindul Bhowmik <bi...@gmail.com>.
On 2/14/07, Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.
>
> Mike
>
> On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > Hi OLeg,
> >
> > > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > > is cut
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> > >
> > > 3.1-RC1 maybe?
> >
> > Yes and yes.
> >
> > If Mike doesn't find time to look into the issue,
> > I'll dig into it this week-end.
> >
> > cheers,
> >   Roland
> >
> >

All,

An email on the user thread[1][2] got me thinking. Would it be worth
to add the <code>shutdown()</code> method to the HttpConnectionManager
interface? Two of the three implementations of the interface already
support the shutdown method.

If there is consensus on implementing this, I could provide a patch
(and a JIRA issue) for this.

I understand that this might break compatibility for applications
which have implemented their own connection managers. So, if the
method is introduced, is it worth getting into 3.1 or should it be
deffered until 4.0?

Regards,
Bindul

[1]: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-httpclient-user/200702.mbox/%3c8a6db32b0702151052o217da5bfr1ffdf8e93ec2a732@mail.gmail.com%3e
[2]: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-httpclient-user/200702.mbox/%3c882a6a7e0702151151o243ca2bdv89bfd2bcf91c1bef@mail.gmail.com%3e
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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com>.
I'm fine with an RC release.  I will also take a look at this issue.

Mike

On 2/14/07, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> Hi OLeg,
>
> > It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> > is cut
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
> >
> > 3.1-RC1 maybe?
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> If Mike doesn't find time to look into the issue,
> I'll dig into it this week-end.
>
> cheers,
>   Roland
>
>
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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi OLeg,

> It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
> is cut
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633
>
> 3.1-RC1 maybe?

Yes and yes.

If Mike doesn't find time to look into the issue,
I'll dig into it this week-end.

cheers,
  Roland


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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 19:40 +0100, Roland Weber wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> 
> there are 10 fixes in the new 3.1 release [1]. Many of them are minor,
> others fix things that were obviously broken in older final releases
> too. I'm OK with a release, but I'm unsure whether it should be the
> final one or another beta.
> 

Roland,

It looks like we have something we should look into before new release
is cut

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-633

3.1-RC1 maybe? RCs are used in the rest of Commons to carry a different
meaning these days. However, official RCs helped us a lot in the 2.0 and
3.0 days. When the final versions were released they turned out to be
quite stable, so I am kind of in favor of continuing this practice.

Oleg  

> Any other opinions on this?
> 
> cheers,
>   Roland
> 
> [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel
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Re: HttpClient 3.1 (final) release?

Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi Oleg,

there are 10 fixes in the new 3.1 release [1]. Many of them are minor,
others fix things that were obviously broken in older final releases
too. I'm OK with a release, but I'm unsure whether it should be the
final one or another beta.

Any other opinions on this?

cheers,
  Roland

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

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