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Reference guide for 8.11

Hello,

I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement
contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist
yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?

-- 
Adrien

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>.
Just to close the loop, I’m a little later than my promised last Friday for fixing updating the missing 8.11 notes and the problem with the 8.10 Upgrade notes page still showing DRAFT watermark, but I fixed both yesterday.

Thanks for the kind words in general - always very nice to hear. I fully support more automation in as many places as we can do it, and all help on these sorts of time-sensitive tasks is appreciated :-)

Cassandra
On Nov 19, 2021, 6:38 AM -0600, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>, wrote:
> +1
>
> And especially
> > I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a time-critical task after the main release.
>
> Yes; thank you Cassandra!
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:01 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds to me that, from solr 9.0, such things must also go into the official RM process. I have a proposal:
> > >
> > > Early on, right after cutting the branch, the RM files a blocker JIRA issue with title e.g. "Complete Major changes and Upgrade Notes in RefGudie for 9.1".
> > > Note that the RM will not need to be the one authoring the text (and not Cassandra either), but the release will be blocked on *someone* stepping up.
> > > And of course we know that RCs can in theory still be voted upon while ref guide is being completed, but that blocker JIRA must be resolved before announcing the release.
> > >
> > > I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a time-critical task after the main release.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > > 18. nov. 2021 kl. 21:17 skrev Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?
> > > >
> > > > I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I will update the page and re-publish.
> > > >
> > > > Cassandra
> > > > On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>, wrote:
> > > > > The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html does not have a section for 8.11
> > > > > Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan
> > > > >
> > > > > > 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jan Høydahl
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
> > > > > > > > > for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
> > > > > > > > > no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
> > > > > > > > > can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
> > > > > > > > > configs ...)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tim
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
> > > > > > > > > > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
> > > > > > > > > > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Houston
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Hey Adrien,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> - Houston
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>> Adrien
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Adrien
> > > > >
> > >

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
+1

And especially

> I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra
> of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a
> professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such
> good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we
> have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a
> time-critical task after the main release.
>

Yes; thank you Cassandra!

~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:01 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:

> Sounds to me that, from solr 9.0, such things must also go into the
> official RM process. I have a proposal:
>
> Early on, right after cutting the branch, the RM files a *blocker* JIRA
> issue with title e.g. "Complete Major changes and Upgrade Notes in RefGudie
> for 9.1".
> Note that the RM will not need to be the one authoring the text (and not
> Cassandra either), but the release will be blocked on *someone* stepping up.
> And of course we know that RCs can in theory still be voted upon while ref
> guide is being completed, but that blocker JIRA must be resolved before
> announcing the release.
>
> I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra
> of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a
> professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such
> good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we
> have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a
> time-critical task after the main release.
>
> Jan
>
>
> 18. nov. 2021 kl. 21:17 skrev Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>:
>
> Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?
>
> I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to
> mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I
> will update the page and re-publish.
>
> Cassandra
> On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>,
> wrote:
>
> The page linked in release announcement
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html does not have
> a section for 8.11
> Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
>
> Jan
>
> 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
>
> Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
>
> Jan Høydahl
>
> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>:
>
> 
> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning
> EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>> configs ...)
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list,
>> causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to
>> display any file.
>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I
>> think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug
>> fixes is needed.
>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr
>> 8.11 to the public at all?
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>> >
>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
>> >
>> > - Houston
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Adrien,
>> >>
>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's
>> done.
>> >>
>> >> - Houston
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement
>> contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist
>> yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Adrien
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Adrien
>
>
>
>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
I just included lin to 8.11 guide in the web page https://solr.apache.org/guide/ when the question came up on the user list.

Now that the guide will be published during the release - can we auto generate the /guide web page. No problem to generate the link to latest guide, based on latest release version. But how to find all the other minor versions? 
One approach is to let pelican pull https://projects.apache.org/json/projects/solr.json and parse minor versions since 6.6..

Would also be cool if we had a versions.json file included in the ref-guide, that could drive a versions dropdown at the top.
It may of course be too much work to re-build all older guides, but we could add that capability from 8.11 and newer...
Should be fairly easy to copy that versions.json to each guide folder when releasing a new one.
That would also make it possible to warn users dynamically if they are not browsing the most recent guide.

Jan

> 24. nov. 2021 kl. 10:21 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
> 
> I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15817 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15817> for this
> 
> Jan
> 
>> 19. nov. 2021 kl. 10:01 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>:
>> 
>> Sounds to me that, from solr 9.0, such things must also go into the official RM process. I have a proposal:
>> 
>> Early on, right after cutting the branch, the RM files a blocker JIRA issue with title e.g. "Complete Major changes and Upgrade Notes in RefGudie for 9.1".
>> Note that the RM will not need to be the one authoring the text (and not Cassandra either), but the release will be blocked on *someone* stepping up.
>> And of course we know that RCs can in theory still be voted upon while ref guide is being completed, but that blocker JIRA must be resolved before announcing the release.
>> 
>> I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a time-critical task after the main release.
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>>> 18. nov. 2021 kl. 21:17 skrev Cassandra Targett <casstargett@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?
>>> 
>>> I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I will update the page and re-publish.
>>> 
>>> Cassandra
>>> On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>, wrote:
>>>> The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html> does not have a section for 8.11
>>>> Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
>>>> 
>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>>>> 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jan Høydahl
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <thelabdude@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>>>>>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>>>>>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>>>>>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>>>>>> configs ...)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
>>>>>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678> and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
>>>>>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > - Houston
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hey Adrien,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> - Houston
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Adrien
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>> 
>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15817 for this

Jan

> 19. nov. 2021 kl. 10:01 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
> 
> Sounds to me that, from solr 9.0, such things must also go into the official RM process. I have a proposal:
> 
> Early on, right after cutting the branch, the RM files a blocker JIRA issue with title e.g. "Complete Major changes and Upgrade Notes in RefGudie for 9.1".
> Note that the RM will not need to be the one authoring the text (and not Cassandra either), but the release will be blocked on *someone* stepping up.
> And of course we know that RCs can in theory still be voted upon while ref guide is being completed, but that blocker JIRA must be resolved before announcing the release.
> 
> I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a time-critical task after the main release.
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
>> 18. nov. 2021 kl. 21:17 skrev Cassandra Targett <casstargett@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?
>> 
>> I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I will update the page and re-publish.
>> 
>> Cassandra
>> On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>, wrote:
>>> The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html> does not have a section for 8.11
>>> Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>>> 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
>>>> 
>>>> Jan Høydahl
>>>> 
>>>>> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <thelabdude@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>>>>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>>>>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>>>>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>>>>> configs ...)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
>>>>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678> and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
>>>>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - Houston
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey Adrien,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> - Houston
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> Adrien
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Adrien
>>> 
>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
Sounds to me that, from solr 9.0, such things must also go into the official RM process. I have a proposal:

Early on, right after cutting the branch, the RM files a blocker JIRA issue with title e.g. "Complete Major changes and Upgrade Notes in RefGudie for 9.1".
Note that the RM will not need to be the one authoring the text (and not Cassandra either), but the release will be blocked on *someone* stepping up.
And of course we know that RCs can in theory still be voted upon while ref guide is being completed, but that blocker JIRA must be resolved before announcing the release.

I'd like to call out a huge THANK YOU for the tireless effort of Cassandra of carrying the burden of the ref-guide all these years. It really is a professional piece of work! Few open source projects are blessed with such good docs! But it is often a thankless job as well, especially the way we have been treating the RefGuide until now, as something handled as a time-critical task after the main release.

Jan


> 18. nov. 2021 kl. 21:17 skrev Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?
> 
> I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I will update the page and re-publish.
> 
> Cassandra
> On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>, wrote:
>> The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html> does not have a section for 8.11
>> Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>>> 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
>>> 
>>> Jan Høydahl
>>> 
>>>> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <thelabdude@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>>>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>>>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>>>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>>>> configs ...)
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
>>>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678> and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
>>>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>>>> >
>>>> > Jan
>>>> >
>>>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>:
>>>> >
>>>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>>>> >
>>>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html>
>>>> >
>>>> > - Houston
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hey Adrien,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Houston
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> Adrien
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Adrien
>>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>.
Ha ha, you actually wanted the 8.11 Ref Guide to be updated for 8.11?

I had a few minutes today to look at the CHANGES for 8.11 and I’d like to mention a couple of things. I should have time to do this tomorrow so I will update the page and re-publish.

Cassandra
On Nov 17, 2021, 5:42 AM -0600, Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>, wrote:
> The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html does not have a section for 8.11
> Is that an ommission or is it not needed?
>
> Jan
>
> > 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
> >
> > Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
> >
> > Jan Høydahl
> >
> > > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
> > > > > for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
> > > > > no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
> > > > > can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
> > > > > configs ...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
> > > > > > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
> > > > > > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Houston
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hey Adrien,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - Houston
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>> Adrien
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Adrien
>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
The page linked in release announcement https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/solr-upgrade-notes.html does not have a section for 8.11
Is that an ommission or is it not needed?

Jan

> 17. nov. 2021 kl. 00:39 skrev Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>:
> 
> Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.
> 
> Jan Høydahl
> 
>> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <thelabdude@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>> configs ...)
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com <ma...@cominvent.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678> and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>:
>> >
>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>> >
>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html>
>> >
>> > - Houston
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Adrien,
>> >>
>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>> >>
>> >> - Houston
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Adrien
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Adrien

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
Sure, we can do an 8.11.1 right after Lucene 9.0.

Jan Høydahl

> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 23:22 skrev Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
>> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
>> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
>> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
>> configs ...)
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
>> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
>> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>> >
>> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
>> >
>> > - Houston
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Adrien,
>> >>
>> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>> >>
>> >> - Houston
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Adrien
>> >
>> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrien

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com>.
Given Tim's comment I plan to announce the 8.11 release tomorrow morning EU
time. Please let me know if this doesn't sound right.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
> for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
> no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
> can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
> configs ...)
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list,
> causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to
> display any file.
> > It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I
> think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug
> fixes is needed.
> > Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr
> 8.11 to the public at all?
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
> >
> > The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
> >
> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
> >
> > - Houston
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Adrien,
> >>
> >> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
> >>
> >> - Houston
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement
> contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist
> yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Adrien
> >
> >
>


-- 
Adrien

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Timothy Potter <th...@apache.org>.
Agree it should be fixed but don't think we should rush out an 8.11.1
for this given 1) you can only read the file from that screen, there's
no support for editing files (which would be a useful feature), 2) you
can still read the files from the Cloud panel (cloud -> tree ->
configs ...)

Tim

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
>
> There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
> It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
> Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?
>
> Jan
>
> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
>
> The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
>
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Adrien,
>>
>> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>>
>> - Houston
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Adrien
>
>

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Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
There is a bad regression in Solr 8.11.0, reported on the user-list, causing the Collection -> Files screen of the Admin UI to always fail to display any file.
It's caused by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15678 and I think a quick 8.11.1 release with this and potentially other critical bug fixes is needed.
Question is whether we want to wait until 8.11.1 with announcing Solr 8.11 to the public at all?

Jan

> 16. nov. 2021 kl. 17:36 skrev Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>:
> 
> The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!
> 
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html <https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html>
> 
> - Houston
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <houston@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> Hey Adrien,
> 
> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
> 
> - Houston
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
> 
> -- 
> Adrien

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>.
The 8.11 ref guide should be all good now!

https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/index.html

- Houston

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:15 AM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hey Adrien,
>
> I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement
>> contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist
>> yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>>
>> --
>> Adrien
>>
>

Re: Reference guide for 8.11

Posted by Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>.
Hey Adrien,

I'm working on uploading it right now. Will let you know when it's done.

- Houston

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:13 AM Adrien Grand <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was about to announce the 8.11 release of Solr but the announcement
> contains a link to the reference guide for 8.11 which doesn't seem to exist
> yet. Should I wait for it to be published before announcing the release?
>
> --
> Adrien
>