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Posted to users@sling.apache.org by Razvan Dragut <ra...@gmail.com> on 2010/01/26 01:34:26 UTC

Sling bundles - Start Sling without launchers

Hello everyone,

I am very new to Sling and currently I am trying to evaluate it for a
project. The way I would like to use Sling is by deploying the sling bundles
in _my_ Felix instance. It looks like all the documentation refers to either
standalone or web container deployment. I've tried to install the bundles
separately but when these bundles are activated, they do not create a
repository and presumably they do none of the good things the standalone/web
distributions launcher does. Also tried the *launcher.base and
*launcher.bundles but the *launcher.bundles is not a valid OSGi bundle as it
only wraps everything in a jar file.
I guess I might have missed some bundles that have some activators
implemented or maybe it's not even possible to start Sling like that ?

If I missed some bundles - Which bundles are those that have activators to
initialise Sling to a usable state ? ... I've tried tons of them, I even
tried to look at the code, but couldn't spot it.

If it's not possible to have a Sling instance initialised this manner -
Wouldn't it restrict Sling's use cases ? Maybe one of the very likely use
case ?

Thanks very much,

Best Regards,

Razvan

Re: Sling bundles - Start Sling without launchers

Posted by Razvan Dragut <ra...@gmail.com>.

Thank Justin,

Will give it a go and post the results back here ...

Cheers

Razvan

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Justin Edelson <ju...@gmail.com>wrote:

> There's no reason this can't work. You need to install/start all of the
> bundles listed in
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/sling/trunk/launchpad/builder/src/main/bundles/list.xml(which does not include launcher.base FWIW).
>
> Justin
>
>
> On 1/25/10 7:34 PM, Razvan Dragut wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am very new to Sling and currently I am trying to evaluate it for a
>> project. The way I would like to use Sling is by deploying the sling
>> bundles
>> in _my_ Felix instance. It looks like all the documentation refers to
>> either
>> standalone or web container deployment. I've tried to install the bundles
>> separately but when these bundles are activated, they do not create a
>> repository and presumably they do none of the good things the
>> standalone/web
>> distributions launcher does. Also tried the *launcher.base and
>> *launcher.bundles but the *launcher.bundles is not a valid OSGi bundle as
>> it
>> only wraps everything in a jar file.
>> I guess I might have missed some bundles that have some activators
>> implemented or maybe it's not even possible to start Sling like that ?
>>
>> If I missed some bundles - Which bundles are those that have activators to
>> initialise Sling to a usable state ? ... I've tried tons of them, I even
>> tried to look at the code, but couldn't spot it.
>>
>> If it's not possible to have a Sling instance initialised this manner -
>> Wouldn't it restrict Sling's use cases ? Maybe one of the very likely use
>> case ?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Razvan
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Sling bundles - Start Sling without launchers

Posted by Justin Edelson <ju...@gmail.com>.

I think it'd be reasonably simple to produce this meta bundle via 
maven-launchpad-plugin.

On 1/26/10 2:55 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> I wonder, whether it would be possible to have a meta/helper bundle,
> which helps in this task ?
>
> One approach would be a meta bundle with dependencies which we could
> deploy in an OBR repository and thus simplify installation through OSGi.
>
> Or an installation helper bundle ?
>
> Or would the karaf feature just be simple enough ?
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
> On 26.01.2010 02:29, Justin Edelson wrote:
>    
>> There's no reason this can't work. You need to install/start all of the
>> bundles listed in
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/sling/trunk/launchpad/builder/src/main/bundles/list.xml
>> (which does not include launcher.base FWIW).
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On 1/25/10 7:34 PM, Razvan Dragut wrote:
>>      
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am very new to Sling and currently I am trying to evaluate it for a
>>> project. The way I would like to use Sling is by deploying the sling
>>> bundles
>>> in _my_ Felix instance. It looks like all the documentation refers to
>>> either
>>> standalone or web container deployment. I've tried to install the bundles
>>> separately but when these bundles are activated, they do not create a
>>> repository and presumably they do none of the good things the
>>> standalone/web
>>> distributions launcher does. Also tried the *launcher.base and
>>> *launcher.bundles but the *launcher.bundles is not a valid OSGi bundle
>>> as it
>>> only wraps everything in a jar file.
>>> I guess I might have missed some bundles that have some activators
>>> implemented or maybe it's not even possible to start Sling like that ?
>>>
>>> If I missed some bundles - Which bundles are those that have
>>> activators to
>>> initialise Sling to a usable state ? ... I've tried tons of them, I even
>>> tried to look at the code, but couldn't spot it.
>>>
>>> If it's not possible to have a Sling instance initialised this manner -
>>> Wouldn't it restrict Sling's use cases ? Maybe one of the very likely use
>>> case ?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Razvan
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>
>>

Re: Sling bundles - Start Sling without launchers

Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>.

I wonder, whether it would be possible to have a meta/helper bundle,
which helps in this task ?

One approach would be a meta bundle with dependencies which we could
deploy in an OBR repository and thus simplify installation through OSGi.

Or an installation helper bundle ?

Or would the karaf feature just be simple enough ?

Regards
Felix

On 26.01.2010 02:29, Justin Edelson wrote:
> There's no reason this can't work. You need to install/start all of the
> bundles listed in
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/sling/trunk/launchpad/builder/src/main/bundles/list.xml
> (which does not include launcher.base FWIW).
> 
> Justin
> 
> On 1/25/10 7:34 PM, Razvan Dragut wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am very new to Sling and currently I am trying to evaluate it for a
>> project. The way I would like to use Sling is by deploying the sling
>> bundles
>> in _my_ Felix instance. It looks like all the documentation refers to
>> either
>> standalone or web container deployment. I've tried to install the bundles
>> separately but when these bundles are activated, they do not create a
>> repository and presumably they do none of the good things the
>> standalone/web
>> distributions launcher does. Also tried the *launcher.base and
>> *launcher.bundles but the *launcher.bundles is not a valid OSGi bundle
>> as it
>> only wraps everything in a jar file.
>> I guess I might have missed some bundles that have some activators
>> implemented or maybe it's not even possible to start Sling like that ?
>>
>> If I missed some bundles - Which bundles are those that have
>> activators to
>> initialise Sling to a usable state ? ... I've tried tons of them, I even
>> tried to look at the code, but couldn't spot it.
>>
>> If it's not possible to have a Sling instance initialised this manner -
>> Wouldn't it restrict Sling's use cases ? Maybe one of the very likely use
>> case ?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Razvan
>>
>>    
> 
>

Re: Sling bundles - Start Sling without launchers

Posted by Justin Edelson <ju...@gmail.com>.

There's no reason this can't work. You need to install/start all of the 
bundles listed in 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/sling/trunk/launchpad/builder/src/main/bundles/list.xml 
(which does not include launcher.base FWIW).

Justin

On 1/25/10 7:34 PM, Razvan Dragut wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am very new to Sling and currently I am trying to evaluate it for a
> project. The way I would like to use Sling is by deploying the sling bundles
> in _my_ Felix instance. It looks like all the documentation refers to either
> standalone or web container deployment. I've tried to install the bundles
> separately but when these bundles are activated, they do not create a
> repository and presumably they do none of the good things the standalone/web
> distributions launcher does. Also tried the *launcher.base and
> *launcher.bundles but the *launcher.bundles is not a valid OSGi bundle as it
> only wraps everything in a jar file.
> I guess I might have missed some bundles that have some activators
> implemented or maybe it's not even possible to start Sling like that ?
>
> If I missed some bundles - Which bundles are those that have activators to
> initialise Sling to a usable state ? ... I've tried tons of them, I even
> tried to look at the code, but couldn't spot it.
>
> If it's not possible to have a Sling instance initialised this manner -
> Wouldn't it restrict Sling's use cases ? Maybe one of the very likely use
> case ?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Razvan
>
>