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Posted to l10n@openoffice.apache.org by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> on 2014/03/27 15:07:05 UTC
[HEB] [VOTE] Translating "database"
I see Database was translated into מסד-נתונים which is an archaic
translation (~160 occurrences).
I recommend to use בסיס-נתונים. Do you agree with this?
Re: [HEB] [VOTE] Translating "database"
Posted by Yaron Shahrabani <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tal,
As a former Information Systems students I used מסד rather than בסיס and
most of my friends and lecturers did so also.
Nice pun ☺
I don't use it quite often these days but I still haven't heard nobody say
בסיס נתונים although this is the preferred form on Wikipedia.
Also if you'll take a closer look at the word בסיס it usually means a
military base (אני בבסיס) rather than anything technological.
Google contest shows that מסד נתונים is used more than בסיס נתונים (it's
160 vs 154 IIRC).
Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani
<Hebrew translator>
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yaron, even if database was translated to something by microsoft, or in
> libreoffice, I still prefer the term בסיס-נתונים for database, which is
> more popular in day-to-day academia & industry language. I used the word
> archaic since I met מסד נתונים only in books from the '80s-'90s.
>
> Don't you think that the word מסד just isn't common enough to be used in
> translation? Think day to day work: "Yaron, can you send me the מסד-נתונים
> you created ... ?" or "... can you send me the בסיס-נתונים ...?"
>
> We need to have relation to how people speak in Israel, too, and I think
> that this translation, at the very opening screen of AOO, implies as for
> the quality of the whole translation.
>
> As for the meaning, מסד and בסיס mean, bas[e]ically the same :)
>
> Tal
>
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> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Tal!
> > בסיס נתונים is simply a direct translation.
> > Microsoft uses the term מסד נתונים which was the official translation
> from
> > the beginning.
> >
> > Not archaic, simply a more logically oriented term (meaning that the
> > translation describes the meaning better than בסיס נתונים).
> >
> > Furthermore we chose מסד in Libre...
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Yaron Shahrabani
> >
> > <Hebrew translator>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I see Database was translated into מסד-נתונים which is an archaic
> > > translation (~160 occurrences).
> > > I recommend to use בסיס-נתונים. Do you agree with this?
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> טל
>
Re: [HEB] [VOTE] Translating "database"
Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
Yaron, even if database was translated to something by microsoft, or in
libreoffice, I still prefer the term בסיס-נתונים for database, which is
more popular in day-to-day academia & industry language. I used the word
archaic since I met מסד נתונים only in books from the '80s-'90s.
Don't you think that the word מסד just isn't common enough to be used in
translation? Think day to day work: "Yaron, can you send me the מסד-נתונים
you created ... ?" or "... can you send me the בסיס-נתונים ...?"
We need to have relation to how people speak in Israel, too, and I think
that this translation, at the very opening screen of AOO, implies as for
the quality of the whole translation.
As for the meaning, מסד and בסיס mean, bas[e]ically the same :)
Tal
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <sh...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Tal!
> בסיס נתונים is simply a direct translation.
> Microsoft uses the term מסד נתונים which was the official translation from
> the beginning.
>
> Not archaic, simply a more logically oriented term (meaning that the
> translation describes the meaning better than בסיס נתונים).
>
> Furthermore we chose מסד in Libre...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Yaron Shahrabani
>
> <Hebrew translator>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I see Database was translated into מסד-נתונים which is an archaic
> > translation (~160 occurrences).
> > I recommend to use בסיס-נתונים. Do you agree with this?
> >
>
--
טל
Re: [HEB] [VOTE] Translating "database"
Posted by Yaron Shahrabani <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tal!
בסיס נתונים is simply a direct translation.
Microsoft uses the term מסד נתונים which was the official translation from
the beginning.
Not archaic, simply a more logically oriented term (meaning that the
translation describes the meaning better than בסיס נתונים).
Furthermore we chose מסד in Libre...
Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani
<Hebrew translator>
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see Database was translated into מסד-נתונים which is an archaic
> translation (~160 occurrences).
> I recommend to use בסיס-נתונים. Do you agree with this?
>