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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Sudhir <su...@unidux.com.sg> on 2002/07/18 03:05:58 UTC
Processing Slow
Hi,
Can anybody tell me why the processing is very slow if I use struts when compared without using struts.
Thanks and Best Regards,
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Re: Processing Slow
Posted by Eddie Bush <ed...@vestus.adabbs.com>.
LOL - do you do stand-up on the weekends, James? ;-)
James Mitchell wrote:
>Yes, because Struts is a framework that is built on established J2EE
>Technologies, and not just a big fat servlet.
>
>If you only need a servlet to produce a page or setup some beans to use in a
>jsp, then you are better off writing your own servlet. It's a lot faster.
>
>Then, when your boss says to make it work in Spanish, you can rewrite it
>from scratch to also support Spanish. It's crazy, I know, but that might be
>what they want.
>
>When your web page becomes popular, they may ask you to add a menu to it.
>Then when you demo it, they want it on the left side, not the top. Oops,
>should have picked Tiles.
>
>Man! Your servlet is hummin now. It would great if we could force the user
>to enter all the required data before they submit the form. Great, now you
>have to add validation. Oops, someone discovered that users can turn off
>your javascript, so now you have to duplicate the validation on the server
>side. Crap, should got the validator.
>
>Frameworks like Struts provide a very powerful tool to help developers go
>from Use Cases to Test Cases.
>Struts in particular, provides this in an efficient and flexible way.
>
>I cannot say thanks enough to the folks who are making Struts a
>success....THANK YOU!!!!!
>
>
>
>James Mitchell
>Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
>Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
>http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
>
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Re: Processing Slow
Posted by Eddie Bush <ed...@vestus.adabbs.com>.
Here here!
Andrew Hill wrote:
>Id still be back in the stone age with my project if I hadnt got struts to
>build on.
>(And Im not even using JSP and taglibs - struts isn't just view only!)
>
>thanks++;
>
>:-)
>
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RE: Processing Slow
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
Id still be back in the stone age with my project if I hadnt got struts to
build on.
(And Im not even using JSP and taglibs - struts isn't just view only!)
thanks++;
:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 13:11
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Processing Slow
Yes, because Struts is a framework that is built on established J2EE
Technologies, and not just a big fat servlet.
If you only need a servlet to produce a page or setup some beans to use in a
jsp, then you are better off writing your own servlet. It's a lot faster.
Then, when your boss says to make it work in Spanish, you can rewrite it
from scratch to also support Spanish. It's crazy, I know, but that might be
what they want.
When your web page becomes popular, they may ask you to add a menu to it.
Then when you demo it, they want it on the left side, not the top. Oops,
should have picked Tiles.
Man! Your servlet is hummin now. It would great if we could force the user
to enter all the required data before they submit the form. Great, now you
have to add validation. Oops, someone discovered that users can turn off
your javascript, so now you have to duplicate the validation on the server
side. Crap, should got the validator.
Frameworks like Struts provide a very powerful tool to help developers go
from Use Cases to Test Cases.
Struts in particular, provides this in an efficient and flexible way.
I cannot say thanks enough to the folks who are making Struts a
success....THANK YOU!!!!!
James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sudhir [mailto:sudhir@unidux.com.sg]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:06 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Processing Slow
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anybody tell me why the processing is very slow if I use
> struts when compared without using struts.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
>
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RE: Processing Slow
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
Yes, because Struts is a framework that is built on established J2EE
Technologies, and not just a big fat servlet.
If you only need a servlet to produce a page or setup some beans to use in a
jsp, then you are better off writing your own servlet. It's a lot faster.
Then, when your boss says to make it work in Spanish, you can rewrite it
from scratch to also support Spanish. It's crazy, I know, but that might be
what they want.
When your web page becomes popular, they may ask you to add a menu to it.
Then when you demo it, they want it on the left side, not the top. Oops,
should have picked Tiles.
Man! Your servlet is hummin now. It would great if we could force the user
to enter all the required data before they submit the form. Great, now you
have to add validation. Oops, someone discovered that users can turn off
your javascript, so now you have to duplicate the validation on the server
side. Crap, should got the validator.
Frameworks like Struts provide a very powerful tool to help developers go
from Use Cases to Test Cases.
Struts in particular, provides this in an efficient and flexible way.
I cannot say thanks enough to the folks who are making Struts a
success....THANK YOU!!!!!
James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sudhir [mailto:sudhir@unidux.com.sg]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:06 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Processing Slow
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anybody tell me why the processing is very slow if I use
> struts when compared without using struts.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
>
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RE: Processing Slow
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
For much the same reason that a car seems slow when compared to a
motorcycle...
;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sudhir [mailto:sudhir@unidux.com.sg]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 09:06
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Processing Slow
Hi,
Can anybody tell me why the processing is very slow if I use struts when
compared without using struts.
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Re: Processing Slow
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Sudhir wrote:
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:05:58 +0800
> From: Sudhir <su...@unidux.com.sg>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: Processing Slow
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anybody tell me why the processing is very slow if I use struts when
> compared without using struts.
>
There is absolutely no way to answer a question like this without
describing exactly what you are trying to accomplish. In addition, you
have to ensure that you are implementing exactly the same functionality as
the corresponding Struts tags -- sometimes "slower" (not at all unlikely)
behavior that does more things is fine. Finally, the performance of JSP
pages using Struts is ***very*** dependent on the quality of the JSP page
compiler. As evidence of this, enormous performance differences between
Tomcat 4.0.4 and 4.1.7 (which uses a much better page compiler) have been
observed, with zero differences in the web application itself. -- solely
due to improvements in the generated code for custom tags.
Start by describing exactly what your use case is, and what benchmarks you
have run, and you might get some useful information. Generalized
statements like the one you posted are pretty useless in that regard.
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
Craig
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