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Forums and/or Other Lenya User Resources

Lenya Users,

I want to confirm that I'm using all available sources
of information. I'm aware of:

1. This list
2. Wiki
3. Documentation

Are there any user forums? I've just been made aware
of a 'competing' product, Alfresco, who seem to have
quite an active community of users. A forum similar to
theirs might be a good idea.

This is not a troll; I'm just looking for the best XML
CMS solution, and they seem quite advanced.

Regards,
    - Steve


       
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Re: Forums and/or Other Lenya User Resources

Posted by Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 18:48 -0700, Nunez Steve wrote:
>> Lenya Users,
>>
>> I want to confirm that I'm using all available sources
>> of information. I'm aware of:
>>
>> 1. This list
>> 2. Wiki
>> 3. Documentation

that is all. if i may take the liberty of rearranging this a little:

1. website documentation. this should now be the primary resource, and i 
think it has improved a *lot*.
everyone, please, if you have a problem or a question and the 
documentation does not help, let us know it. how did you approach the 
issue, where did you look, what did you expect to find that wasn't 
there? post it on:

2. this list. it's a good resource, people are trying to answer all 
posts that come up.

3. wiki. steve nunez has pointed out that it is not in a good state - 
often, you can't figure out if it's talking about 1.2 or 2.0, or if it 
applies to any existing code at all. i've started to look into that, but 
it's a huge task... i guess we should treat the entire wiki as somewhat 
outdated and explicitly pick out the gems by linking to them from the 
front page.


>> A forum similar to
>> theirs might be a good idea.
>>
> 
> In Apache we have mailing lists instead forums. The two things does not
> work together since they distracted the resources to two different
> things. 

i agree. it's either forums or mailing lists, otherwise you get twice 
the noice without any benefit.
personally, i prefer mailing lists, for two reasons:
* i still think they preserve the content better and are easier to search
* they provide a very small entrance barrier, which is sufficient to 
keep out idiots and spam. and since deploying a cms is nothing anyone 
should attempt casually, joining a list is not too much to ask for imho.

>> This is not a troll; I'm just looking for the best XML
>> CMS solution, and they seem quite advanced.
> 
> They do not have the concept of publishing like we and other have.
> Further it is not a xml cms solution. It reminds me more on windows
> shared folder brought to the web. It is much better on document
> management then web publishing. 
> 
> This is just my personal opinion after my analysis.

thanks for sharing. i haven't looked at alfresco yet, but one thing i 
know: in terms of hype and mindshare, they beat lenya outright. let's 
get our release out and see what can be done about this :)


regards,

jörn

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Re: Forums and/or Other Lenya User Resources

Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 18:48 -0700, Nunez Steve wrote:
> Lenya Users,
> 
> I want to confirm that I'm using all available sources
> of information. I'm aware of:
> 
> 1. This list
> 2. Wiki
> 3. Documentation
> 
> Are there any user forums? I've just been made aware
> of a 'competing' product, Alfresco, who seem to have
> quite an active community of users. 

jeje, I did an analysis a couple of month ago and the community is not
as active as ours, I wrote a very easy to answer question and no one has
given an answer (but 1000 seen).

> A forum similar to
> theirs might be a good idea.
> 

In Apache we have mailing lists instead forums. The two things does not
work together since they distracted the resources to two different
things. 

> This is not a troll; I'm just looking for the best XML
> CMS solution, and they seem quite advanced.

They do not have the concept of publishing like we and other have.
Further it is not a xml cms solution. It reminds me more on windows
shared folder brought to the web. It is much better on document
management then web publishing. 

This is just my personal opinion after my analysis.

salu2
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