OT: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Johan Appelgren <jo...@gmail.com>]

On 5/15/06, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> > On May 15, 2006, at 09:18, Johan Appelgren wrote:
> >
> >>> There's a 3rd party code/headers/libraries tree that my project
> >>> uses.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> What's the correct way of doing it?
> >>
> >> Have you read about vendor branches in the subversion book?
> >>
> >> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
> >> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>
>
> The above URL is badly broken: Try this one:
>
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html

Sorry for being a little bit off topic, but in what way was the URL
broken? How should one write URLs in e-mail?

/Johan

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Re: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Graham Reeds <gr...@ntlworld.com>]

Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> Johan Appelgren wrote:
>> On 5/15/06, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>>> On May 15, 2006, at 09:18, Johan Appelgren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There's a 3rd party code/headers/libraries tree that my project
>>>>>> uses.
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>>> What's the correct way of doing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you read about vendor branches in the subversion book?
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
>>>>> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>
>>>
>>> The above URL is badly broken: Try this one:
>>>
>>> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html
>>
>> Sorry for being a little bit off topic, but in what way was the URL
>> broken? How should one write URLs in e-mail?
> 
> It depends on the mail tool: many mail composers do really unfortunate 
> things to URL's, like breaking them at the "-" inappropriately.. In your 
> case, the URL was broken as follows:
> 
>>>>> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
>>>>> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>
> 
> That, of course, is useless. You need to cut and paste the bits together 
> to get something like:
> 
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr
> 
> Some mail clients do well with the <URL> syntax to display clickable 
> URL's, but for flat text mailing lists like this one, I find that it's 
> just asking for brokenness with many mail clients.

Or use tinyurl links: http://tinyurl.com/sy27w


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Re: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net>]

Johan Appelgren wrote:
> On 5/15/06, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>> On May 15, 2006, at 09:18, Johan Appelgren wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There's a 3rd party code/headers/libraries tree that my project
>>>>> uses.
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> What's the correct way of doing it?
>>>>
>>>> Have you read about vendor branches in the subversion book?
>>>>
>>>> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
>>>> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>
>>
>> The above URL is badly broken: Try this one:
>>
>> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html
>
> Sorry for being a little bit off topic, but in what way was the URL
> broken? How should one write URLs in e-mail?

It depends on the mail tool: many mail composers do really unfortunate 
things to URL's, like breaking them at the "-" inappropriately.. In your 
case, the URL was broken as follows:

>>>> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
>>>> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>

That, of course, is useless. You need to cut and paste the bits together to 
get something like:

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr

Some mail clients do well with the <URL> syntax to display clickable URL's, 
but for flat text mailing lists like this one, I find that it's just asking 
for brokenness with many mail clients. 


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Re: OT: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Baz <br...@gmail.com>]

On 5/15/06, Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Different mail clients will wrap lines differently.  Your link came
> through fine for me on GMail, and I'll bet if we looked at the list
> archives, it wouldn't be broken there either.  Nico's client (which
> appears to be Outlook Express from the headers), however, appears to
> have wrapped the line on the hyphen, thus breaking the link.

Oddly enough, I spotted this happening on a co-worker's copy of
outlook this morning, it had badly mangled a mail I'd sent him. Its an
outlook preference thing, which I presume happens in outlook express
too - on the 'Format' menu, if you have 'Unwrap Text' checked, it will
insert characters into mail in order to wrap lines differently -
whatever it guesses was the mail-quote character in use at the time.
This menu item only appears when the mail is plain text. Turn it off
and you see the mail as it was sent.

The original URL was written following conventions in appendix E of
rfc2396  (which outlook supports) so it should've actually worked.

-Baz

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Re: OT: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net>]

Andy Levy wrote:

> Different mail clients will wrap lines differently.  Your link came
> through fine for me on GMail, and I'll bet if we looked at the list
> archives, it wouldn't be broken there either.  Nico's client (which
> appears to be Outlook Express from the headers), however, appears to
> have wrapped the line on the hyphen, thus breaking the link.

It was apparently correct and legible in Johan's original message, which I'm 
looking at right now in the archives. I'm not the one wrho broke it with my 
mail client, though. I was reading the followup from Ryan Schmidt, which 
apparently broke the URL. (Hi, Ryan!)

That sort of fun and games is why I prefer to point people to general URL's, 
and leave the actual location of the relevant paragraph to the user, rather 
than getting into lengthy and likely-to-break URL's. 


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Re: OT: URL in e-mail (was: Re: way to manage external code)

[Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>]

On 5/15/06, Johan Appelgren <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/06, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> > > On May 15, 2006, at 09:18, Johan Appelgren wrote:
> > >
> > >>> There's a 3rd party code/headers/libraries tree that my project
> > >>> uses.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >>> What's the correct way of doing it?
> > >>
> > >> Have you read about vendor branches in the subversion book?
> > >>
> > >> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-
> > >> book.html#svn.advanced.vendorbr>
> >
> > The above URL is badly broken: Try this one:
> >
> > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html
>
> Sorry for being a little bit off topic, but in what way was the URL
> broken? How should one write URLs in e-mail?

Different mail clients will wrap lines differently.  Your link came
through fine for me on GMail, and I'll bet if we looked at the list
archives, it wouldn't be broken there either.  Nico's client (which
appears to be Outlook Express from the headers), however, appears to
have wrapped the line on the hyphen, thus breaking the link.

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