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Posted to soap-user@xml.apache.org by Olivier Thomas <ol...@wanadoo.fr> on 2001/02/02 19:13:45 UTC
RE: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
Hi,
Did you manage to get you MS SOAP 2.0 low-level API client run with Apache
SOAP server using SSL ?
I've been completely stuck with that for several days and Microsoft says
it's possible.
The trick is that my Apache SOAP server is its own certificate authoriy (I
use Apache mod_ssl). When I use it with Java clients I need to export the ca
certificate to a security file of the java tree. How about woth MS Clients ?
Aniway I don't go so far as the error I have comes earlier: "You're trying
to make a plain HTTP request to an SSL port". Of course my server works with
IE 5.0 using https.
Thanks four your help,
Olivier.
-----Original Message-----
From: Khondker Akhter [mailto:Khondker.Akhter@msdw.com]
Sent: lundi 29 janvier 2001 11:10
To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
i am trying the exact same thing....i got the java soap stuff running, but
could
anyone point me to examples/documentation on the ms side of things (create
'Call' objects or equivalent in the ms/vb/com world)
Olivier Thomas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think I already sent this question before but no answer.
> I would like to use SSL between my MS SOAP 2.0 client and my Apache SOAP
> server.
> I tested the examples with SSL between java clients and it works well.
> With my MS SOAP client, I changed http to https and set us a property
called
> "UseSSL" to true.
> But it doesn't work and I receive the message :
> "You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port."
>
> Can anybody help me ?
>
> Thanks,
> Olivier.
>
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Re: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
Posted by George I Matkovits <ma...@uswest.net>.
Please try it with a legitimate server (not test) certificate. It will 'probably'
work. The 'major' certificate issuers are in IE's, Netscape's, in Java Client's
and IMHO even a VB client's (NOT?) client side certificate repository. There are
(vendor dependent) tools for saving a server's test certificate into a client's
repository. This is the 'Keytool' for Java, there must be one for 'native' Windows
also (Please let us know what it is when MS gives it out). On the client side you
must use an SSL (not just socket) aware dll library. This is in JSSE for Java,
where is it in VB? Even just making an SSL socket connection (eventually) will not
be enough, because 'session' management in Java (or VB?) needs an URL connection
to the server (The client must be able to manage session 'cookies' or URL
redirects correctly.) There must be an equivalent SSL URL connection dll library
in VB also. I am (almost) sure that MS must have one since it exists for IE! IMHO
the current Apache SSL client will never be able to do state management even with
its own Soap Servlet Server because just an SSL socket connection does not provide
the cookie environment required by the client's state management libraries. These
kind of 'compatibility' issues have been very carefully implemented by JSEE's Sun
team and then completely IGNORED by our XML focused Savants. There have been many
discussions here on adding 'true state management to Apache-Soap' but the URL
connection provided capability has been chucked out, IMHO because it comes from
SUN. Civil wars are lethal :-). MS compatibility is great but Java2 and SUN
JVM1.3 compatibility would be even better!!!!
Regards - George
p.s. The 'correct' SSL VB client might even work better then the currently 'SSL
brain damaged' xml-soap Java one. Just knowing XML does not ship a WORKING and
SECURE (SSL is not enough) system. Are you really confused now? Please do not
worry, so are almost all the SSL implementers who ignored most of the SUN SSL
library and read almost none of its documentation. Fortunately this is an Apache
Project and we will (eventually, with a few kicks from SUN, and even MS) sort it
out.
Khondker Akhter wrote:
> did get to the ssl stuff yet...
>
> Olivier Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Did you manage to get you MS SOAP 2.0 low-level API client run with Apache
> > SOAP server using SSL ?
> > I've been completely stuck with that for several days and Microsoft says
> > it's possible.
> > The trick is that my Apache SOAP server is its own certificate authoriy (I
> > use Apache mod_ssl). When I use it with Java clients I need to export the ca
> > certificate to a security file of the java tree. How about woth MS Clients ?
> > Aniway I don't go so far as the error I have comes earlier: "You're trying
> > to make a plain HTTP request to an SSL port". Of course my server works with
> > IE 5.0 using https.
> >
> > Thanks four your help,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Khondker Akhter [mailto:Khondker.Akhter@msdw.com]
> > Sent: lundi 29 janvier 2001 11:10
> > To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
> >
> > i am trying the exact same thing....i got the java soap stuff running, but
> > could
> > anyone point me to examples/documentation on the ms side of things (create
> > 'Call' objects or equivalent in the ms/vb/com world)
> >
> > Olivier Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think I already sent this question before but no answer.
> > > I would like to use SSL between my MS SOAP 2.0 client and my Apache SOAP
> > > server.
> > > I tested the examples with SSL between java clients and it works well.
> > > With my MS SOAP client, I changed http to https and set us a property
> > called
> > > "UseSSL" to true.
> > > But it doesn't work and I receive the message :
> > > "You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port."
> > >
> > > Can anybody help me ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Olivier.
> > >
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Re: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
Posted by George I Matkovits <ma...@uswest.net>.
Please try it with a legitimate server (not test) certificate. It will 'probably'
work. The 'major' certificate issuers are in IE's, Netscape's, in Java Client's
and IMHO even a VB client's (NOT?) client side certificate repository. There are
(vendor dependent) tools for saving a server's test certificate into a client's
repository. This is the 'Keytool' for Java, there must be one for 'native' Windows
also (Please let us know what it is when MS gives it out). On the client side you
must use an SSL (not just socket) aware dll library. This is in JSSE for Java,
where is it in VB? Even just making an SSL socket connection (eventually) will not
be enough, because 'session' management in Java (or VB?) needs an URL connection
to the server (The client must be able to manage session 'cookies' or URL
redirects correctly.) There must be an equivalent SSL URL connection dll library
in VB also. I am (almost) sure that MS must have one since it exists for IE! IMHO
the current Apache SSL client will never be able to do state management even with
its own Soap Servlet Server because just an SSL socket connection does not provide
the cookie environment required by the client's state management libraries. These
kind of 'compatibility' issues have been very carefully implemented by JSEE's Sun
team and then completely IGNORED by our XML focused Savants. There have been many
discussions here on adding 'true state management to Apache-Soap' but the URL
connection provided capability has been chucked out, IMHO because it comes from
SUN. Civil wars are lethal :-). MS compatibility is great but Java2 and SUN
JVM1.3 compatibility would be even better!!!!
Regards - George
p.s. The 'correct' SSL VB client might even work better then the currently 'SSL
brain damaged' xml-soap Java one. Just knowing XML does not ship a WORKING and
SECURE (SSL is not enough) system. Are you really confused now? Please do not
worry, so are almost all the SSL implementers who ignored most of the SUN SSL
library and read almost none of its documentation. Fortunately this is an Apache
Project and we will (eventually, with a few kicks from SUN, and even MS) sort it
out.
Khondker Akhter wrote:
> did get to the ssl stuff yet...
>
> Olivier Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Did you manage to get you MS SOAP 2.0 low-level API client run with Apache
> > SOAP server using SSL ?
> > I've been completely stuck with that for several days and Microsoft says
> > it's possible.
> > The trick is that my Apache SOAP server is its own certificate authoriy (I
> > use Apache mod_ssl). When I use it with Java clients I need to export the ca
> > certificate to a security file of the java tree. How about woth MS Clients ?
> > Aniway I don't go so far as the error I have comes earlier: "You're trying
> > to make a plain HTTP request to an SSL port". Of course my server works with
> > IE 5.0 using https.
> >
> > Thanks four your help,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Khondker Akhter [mailto:Khondker.Akhter@msdw.com]
> > Sent: lundi 29 janvier 2001 11:10
> > To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
> >
> > i am trying the exact same thing....i got the java soap stuff running, but
> > could
> > anyone point me to examples/documentation on the ms side of things (create
> > 'Call' objects or equivalent in the ms/vb/com world)
> >
> > Olivier Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think I already sent this question before but no answer.
> > > I would like to use SSL between my MS SOAP 2.0 client and my Apache SOAP
> > > server.
> > > I tested the examples with SSL between java clients and it works well.
> > > With my MS SOAP client, I changed http to https and set us a property
> > called
> > > "UseSSL" to true.
> > > But it doesn't work and I receive the message :
> > > "You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port."
> > >
> > > Can anybody help me ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Olivier.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: soap-user-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, email: soap-user-help@xml.apache.org
> >
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Re: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
Posted by Khondker Akhter <Kh...@msdw.com>.
did get to the ssl stuff yet...
Olivier Thomas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did you manage to get you MS SOAP 2.0 low-level API client run with Apache
> SOAP server using SSL ?
> I've been completely stuck with that for several days and Microsoft says
> it's possible.
> The trick is that my Apache SOAP server is its own certificate authoriy (I
> use Apache mod_ssl). When I use it with Java clients I need to export the ca
> certificate to a security file of the java tree. How about woth MS Clients ?
> Aniway I don't go so far as the error I have comes earlier: "You're trying
> to make a plain HTTP request to an SSL port". Of course my server works with
> IE 5.0 using https.
>
> Thanks four your help,
> Olivier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khondker Akhter [mailto:Khondker.Akhter@msdw.com]
> Sent: lundi 29 janvier 2001 11:10
> To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> Subject: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
>
> i am trying the exact same thing....i got the java soap stuff running, but
> could
> anyone point me to examples/documentation on the ms side of things (create
> 'Call' objects or equivalent in the ms/vb/com world)
>
> Olivier Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think I already sent this question before but no answer.
> > I would like to use SSL between my MS SOAP 2.0 client and my Apache SOAP
> > server.
> > I tested the examples with SSL between java clients and it works well.
> > With my MS SOAP client, I changed http to https and set us a property
> called
> > "UseSSL" to true.
> > But it doesn't work and I receive the message :
> > "You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port."
> >
> > Can anybody help me ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: soap-user-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
> > For additional commands, email: soap-user-help@xml.apache.org
>
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Re: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
Posted by Khondker Akhter <Kh...@msdw.com>.
did get to the ssl stuff yet...
Olivier Thomas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did you manage to get you MS SOAP 2.0 low-level API client run with Apache
> SOAP server using SSL ?
> I've been completely stuck with that for several days and Microsoft says
> it's possible.
> The trick is that my Apache SOAP server is its own certificate authoriy (I
> use Apache mod_ssl). When I use it with Java clients I need to export the ca
> certificate to a security file of the java tree. How about woth MS Clients ?
> Aniway I don't go so far as the error I have comes earlier: "You're trying
> to make a plain HTTP request to an SSL port". Of course my server works with
> IE 5.0 using https.
>
> Thanks four your help,
> Olivier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khondker Akhter [mailto:Khondker.Akhter@msdw.com]
> Sent: lundi 29 janvier 2001 11:10
> To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> Subject: SOAP between MS Soap 2.0 and tomcat/soap
>
> i am trying the exact same thing....i got the java soap stuff running, but
> could
> anyone point me to examples/documentation on the ms side of things (create
> 'Call' objects or equivalent in the ms/vb/com world)
>
> Olivier Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think I already sent this question before but no answer.
> > I would like to use SSL between my MS SOAP 2.0 client and my Apache SOAP
> > server.
> > I tested the examples with SSL between java clients and it works well.
> > With my MS SOAP client, I changed http to https and set us a property
> called
> > "UseSSL" to true.
> > But it doesn't work and I receive the message :
> > "You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port."
> >
> > Can anybody help me ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: soap-user-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
> > For additional commands, email: soap-user-help@xml.apache.org
>
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Re: Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
Posted by Florin Moldovan <fl...@art-net.ro>.
Hi Scott,
I have the same problem.
If you find any solution for this please send it to me.
If I find a solution I will e-mail you.
Thank you in advance,
Florin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Allen" <bi...@fred.net>
To: <so...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
>
> All the samples in xml-soap are failing with "No deserializer found to
> deserialize..." soap fault. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.1 on Win2k and have
> Xerces 1.3.0 in the front of Tomcat's classpath.
>
> I thought this might be a common setup error so I tried to find archives
> of this list to no avail. Any pointers there?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>
> --
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
Posted by Florin Moldovan <fl...@art-net.ro>.
Hi Scott,
I have the same problem.
If you find any solution for this please send it to me.
If I find a solution I will e-mail you.
Thank you in advance,
Florin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Allen" <bi...@fred.net>
To: <so...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
>
> All the samples in xml-soap are failing with "No deserializer found to
> deserialize..." soap fault. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.1 on Win2k and have
> Xerces 1.3.0 in the front of Tomcat's classpath.
>
> I thought this might be a common setup error so I tried to find archives
> of this list to no avail. Any pointers there?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>
> --
> Scott
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
Posted by Scott Allen <bi...@fred.net>.
All the samples in xml-soap are failing with "No deserializer found to
deserialize..." soap fault. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.1 on Win2k and have
Xerces 1.3.0 in the front of Tomcat's classpath.
I thought this might be a common setup error so I tried to find archives
of this list to no avail. Any pointers there?
Thanks in advance for your help,
--
Scott
Getting apache soap 2.0 setup
Posted by Scott Allen <bi...@fred.net>.
All the samples in xml-soap are failing with "No deserializer found to
deserialize..." soap fault. I'm using Tomcat 3.2.1 on Win2k and have
Xerces 1.3.0 in the front of Tomcat's classpath.
I thought this might be a common setup error so I tried to find archives
of this list to no avail. Any pointers there?
Thanks in advance for your help,
--
Scott
Re: SOAP and Attachments
Posted by Stephan Wiesner <wi...@werum.de>.
I read the PDF in, transfer it with Base64 and post it as a String.
The client decodes the Bas64 stuff and writes it to a file. Works somewhat
slow compared to Perl, but with Server and Client
on my P350 it takes about 2 seconds (100k PDF), so it is acceptable.
Stephan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Delgado" <gu...@netquotient.com>
To: <so...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:24 PM
Subject: SOAP and Attachments
> where can I find an example of sending
> a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Gus
Re: SOAP and Attachments
Posted by Stephan Wiesner <wi...@werum.de>.
I read the PDF in, transfer it with Base64 and post it as a String.
The client decodes the Bas64 stuff and writes it to a file. Works somewhat
slow compared to Perl, but with Server and Client
on my P350 it takes about 2 seconds (100k PDF), so it is acceptable.
Stephan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Delgado" <gu...@netquotient.com>
To: <so...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:24 PM
Subject: SOAP and Attachments
> where can I find an example of sending
> a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Gus
SOAP and...
Posted by Gus Delgado <gu...@netquotient.com>.
attachments, is this even possible to send a SOAP envelope with a PDF
attachment?
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: Gus Delgado [mailto:gus.delgado@netquotient.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:24 PM
To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: SOAP and Attachments
where can I find an example of sending
a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
Thanks in advanced.
Gus
SOAP and...
Posted by Gus Delgado <gu...@netquotient.com>.
attachments, is this even possible to send a SOAP envelope with a PDF
attachment?
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: Gus Delgado [mailto:gus.delgado@netquotient.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:24 PM
To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: SOAP and Attachments
where can I find an example of sending
a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
Thanks in advanced.
Gus
SOAP and Attachments
Posted by Gus Delgado <gu...@netquotient.com>.
where can I find an example of sending
a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
Thanks in advanced.
Gus
SOAP and Attachments
Posted by Gus Delgado <gu...@netquotient.com>.
where can I find an example of sending
a response on a soap envelope together with a pdf attachment?
Thanks in advanced.
Gus