RE: [OpenIV:0686] RE: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as core functionality in JMeter"

[Takashi Imoto <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com>]

To: Rahul-san.

Thank you for comments.

> Why you are manually selecting the corealtion candidates?  it should be automated.

Auto correlation feature list up correlate candidate, and from candidate variable we select variable that should be correlated.

In our experience, the variables that different from last execution are sometime no correlate variable.
For example, value is timestamp, its value is different every time, but it is no correlated variable.

If we have good engine for clarify correlate value by formatting, we want to adopt automated feature.
But I think it is reasonable to select correlated variable at first release.


> Rule should be applied once for all apis where we have correlation and accordingly script should be updated.
> I don't think any significance of rule file here, if you want to reuse corelation then candidates should be picked from existing apis by reading in memory, any s

Sorry I’m not clear the mean of “apis”.

Correlation is apply for each scripts (load by page view).

If you can, would you try our branch?
I want your feedback of using our feature.

Thanks.


From: Rahul Mehta <rm...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 3:55 AM
To: Imoto Takashi(井元 崇之) <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com>>
Cc: Vladimir Sitnikov <si...@gmail.com>>; ApacheJMeter dev list <de...@jmeter.apache.org>>; necti_openiv_swe <ne...@swe.jp.nec.com>>
Subject: [OpenIV:0686] RE: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as core functionality in JMeter"

Hi Imoto,

Please clear below points

On Thursday, December 12, 2019, Takashi Imoto <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com>> wrote:
To: Valdimir-san.

> Does "Correlation" differ from "Auto-Correlation"? Should just one of them be
> used in all the places?   Is there a "manual correlation"?

"Auto-Correlation" mean, list up candidate of correlation variables.
From these variable, user select correlate variable.
Why you are manually selecting the corealtion candidates?  it should be automated.

> How Rule differs from Correlation?

Rule files use for re-use of correlation.
I think same application and framework correlation variable is same.
So 1st create correlation rule that describe which variable correlate, the load this file and script changed.
Rule should be applied once for all apis where we have correlation and accordingly script should be updated.

 > Is Rule mandatory for Correlation to work?

As describe above, rule file is for re-use and this file is option.

Is my explanation is clear?
If there are other question and concern, please add comments.

I don't think any significance of rule file here, if you want to reuse corelation then candidates should be picked from existing apis by reading in memory, any s

Thanks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Sitnikov <si...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:53 PM
> To: ApacheJMeter dev list <de...@jmeter.apache.org>>
> Cc: Rahul Mehta <rm...@gmail.com>>; necti_openiv_swe
> <ne...@swe.jp.nec.com>>
> Subject: [OpenIV:0656] Re: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as core
> functionality in JMeter"
>
> >About new feature of auto-correlation, we prepared specification written as
> manual.
>
> That is great. It really helps to preview the feature.
>
> However, I fail to understand what is "correlation with JMX file".
> I see it consumes an extra JMX file, but it is not clear what should be there in
> the file, it is not clear what is added as a result.
>
> Does "Correlation" differ from "Auto-Correlation"? Should just one of them be
> used in all the places?
> Is there a "manual correlation"?
>
> How Rule differs from Correlation?
>
> Is Rule mandatory for Correlation to work?
>
> Vladimir

RE: [OpenIV:0551] Re: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as core functionality in JMeter"

[Rahul Mehta <rm...@gmail.com>]

Hi Imoto,

Thanks for considering, below are my comments.

On Tuesday, December 17, 2019, Takashi Imoto <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com> wrote:

> To: Rahul-san.
>
>
>
> Thank you for comments.
>
>
>
> > Why you are manually selecting the corealtion candidates?  it should be
> automated.
>
>
>
> Auto correlation feature list up correlate candidate, and from candidate
> variable we select variable that should be correlated.
>
>
>
> In our experience, the variables that different from last execution are
> sometime no correlate variable.
>
> For example, value is timestamp, its value is different every time, but it
> is no correlated variable.
>
>
>
> If we have good engine for clarify correlate value by formatting, we want
> to adopt automated feature.
>
> But I think it is reasonable to select correlated variable at first
> release.
>
>  > we already have good engine which will help us to make it automatic
> rather than selecting manually, because as per your approach it's
> correlation not complete auto correlation. I will share the same in my
> design approach , on which I am working for auto correlation and o
>
>
>
> > Rule should be applied once for all apis where we have correlation and
> accordingly script should be updated.
>
> > I don't think any significance of rule file here, if you want to reuse
> corelation then candidates should be picked from existing apis by reading
> in memory, any s
>
>
>
> Sorry I’m not clear the mean of “apis”.
>
>
>
> Correlation is apply for each scripts (load by page view).
>
>
>
> If you can, would you try our branch?
>
> I want your feedback of using our feature.
>
>     > Sure I will share the feedback, but sorry design
       approach shared by you not looking effective from
       jmeter point of view as we are again going into
       manual process and redundant steps involved.

>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rahul Mehta <rm...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 3:55 AM
> *To:* Imoto Takashi(井元 崇之) <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com>
> *Cc:* Vladimir Sitnikov <si...@gmail.com>; ApacheJMeter dev
> list <de...@jmeter.apache.org>; necti_openiv_swe <
> necti_openiv@swe.jp.nec.com>
> *Subject:* [OpenIV:0686] RE: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as
> core functionality in JMeter"
>
>
>
> Hi Imoto,
>
>
>
> Please clear below points
>
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019, Takashi Imoto <t-...@ak.jp.nec.com>
> wrote:
>
> To: Valdimir-san.
>
> > Does "Correlation" differ from "Auto-Correlation"? Should just one of
> them be
> > used in all the places?   Is there a "manual correlation"?
>
> "Auto-Correlation" mean, list up candidate of correlation variables.
> From these variable, user select correlate variable.
>
> Why you are manually selecting the corealtion candidates?  it should be
> automated.
>
>
>
> > How Rule differs from Correlation?
>
> Rule files use for re-use of correlation.
> I think same application and framework correlation variable is same.
> So 1st create correlation rule that describe which variable correlate, the
> load this file and script changed.
>
> Rule should be applied once for all apis where we have correlation and
> accordingly script should be updated.
>
>
>
>  > Is Rule mandatory for Correlation to work?
>
> As describe above, rule file is for re-use and this file is option.
>
> Is my explanation is clear?
> If there are other question and concern, please add comments.
>
>
>
> I don't think any significance of rule file here, if you want to reuse
> corelation then candidates should be picked from existing apis by reading
> in memory, any s
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vladimir Sitnikov <si...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:53 PM
> > To: ApacheJMeter dev list <de...@jmeter.apache.org>
> > Cc: Rahul Mehta <rm...@gmail.com>; necti_openiv_swe
> > <ne...@swe.jp.nec.com>
> > Subject: [OpenIV:0656] Re: Bugzilla Enhancement: "Auto-Correlation as
> core
> > functionality in JMeter"
> >
> > >About new feature of auto-correlation, we prepared specification
> written as
> > manual.
> >
> > That is great. It really helps to preview the feature.
> >
> > However, I fail to understand what is "correlation with JMX file".
> > I see it consumes an extra JMX file, but it is not clear what should be
> there in
> > the file, it is not clear what is added as a result.
> >
> > Does "Correlation" differ from "Auto-Correlation"? Should just one of
> them be
> > used in all the places?
> > Is there a "manual correlation"?
> >
> > How Rule differs from Correlation?
> >
> > Is Rule mandatory for Correlation to work?
> >
> > Vladimir
>
>