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Posted to users@felix.apache.org by Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru> on 2015/07/17 10:40:03 UTC
Re[14]: Is this mailing-list dead?
I don't understand you. I use <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> <version>1.9.12</version> and
<artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files.
But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component won't help, will it?
>Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>:
>
>Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) it will contain those...
>
>Or you could look here https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar
>
>On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component.
>>
>>
>>>Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>
>>>that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right now, you'll
>>>have to check where the scr project is getting it from.
>>>
>>>- Ray
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>> >
>>>> >@org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
>>>> > immediate = false,
>>>> > name = "default",
>>>> > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>>>> >)
>>>> >public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>>>> >> stable it is.
>>>> >> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>>>> >> example:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> @Component (immediate = false)
>>>> >> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>>>> >> @Service
>>>> >> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>> >> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
>>>> prototype
>>>> >> >scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
>>>> from
>>>> >> >source.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >- Ray
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>> >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>>>> >> how
>>>> >> >> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Yes and no. Mostly no.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>>>> >> >> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>>>> >> instances
>>>> >> >> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
>>>> CDI
>>>> >> >> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>>>> >> >> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
>>>> has a
>>>> >> >> mailing list then you should ask there.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Regards
>>>> >> >> >Neil
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
>>>> pax
>>>> >> >> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>>>> >> >> "registry".
>>>> >> >> >> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
>>>> every
>>>> >> >> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>>>> >> >> >> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>>>> >> >> right place. I think so...
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Alex,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
>>>> is a
>>>> >> >> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>>>> >> see.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>>>> >> narrow
>>>> >> >> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>>>> >> question, or
>>>> >> >> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
>>>> tools. If
>>>> >> >> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>>>> >> might
>>>> >> >> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
>>>> different
>>>> >> >> solution.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Regards,
>>>> >> >> >> Neil
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>> >> <x-msg:
>>>> >> >> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>>>> >> >> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
>>>> at
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> >> >>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>> >> >> <
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>>>> >> >> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>>>> >> >> question is very important for
>>>> >> >> >>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>>>> >> >> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> No.
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>
>>>> >> <>>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > --
>>>> >> >> >>> > Alex Sviridov
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> --
>>>> >> >> >>> Alex Sviridov
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> Alex Sviridov
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> Alex Sviridov
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >--
>>>> >> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>> >> > (@rotty3000)
>>>> >> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>> >> > (@Liferay)
>>>> >> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>> >> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Alex Sviridov
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>> > (@rotty3000)
>>>> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>> > (@Liferay)
>>>> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>> (@Liferay)
>>>Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>>
>>--
>>Alex Sviridov
>
>
>
>--
>Raymond Augé (@rotty3000)
>Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance)
--
Alex Sviridov
Re[4]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru>.
Thank you very much! I thought my mistake in understanding. I've checked what we talked and I will start new thread.
>Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 11:19 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
>On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 10:58, Alex Sviridov wrote:
>
>> To tell the truth I am totally confused. I thought that DS work this way:
>> Aa bundle with ds.xml file is loaded by osgi framework and ds framework reads xml files and creates osgi services.
>>
>>
>
>
>Yes this is correct.
>>
>> So maven plugin is used for generating this ds xml files. Am I wrong?
>
>No, this is also correct! But you are using the wrong plugin: maven-scr-plugin is obsolete, and understands a different set of annotations.
>
>These days the annotation processing is done directly by bnd, which is part of the maven-bundle-plugin (or bnd-maven-plugin).
>
>>
>>
>> > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 10:31 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett < njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> >
>> > Alex, what is the relevance of the maven-scr-plugin? The annotations are processed directly by bnd, but only in the (unreleased) version 3.0. A separate Maven plugin is not required.
>> >
>> > The annotation library, which you will need as a dependency to compile your own code, is here: https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations < https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Neil
>> >
>> > > On 17 Jul 2015, at 09:40, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I don't understand you. I use <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> <version>1.9.12</version> and
>> > > <artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files.
>> > >
>> > > But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component won't help, will it?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> > > >
>> > > > Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) it will contain those...
>> > > >
>> > > > Or you could look here https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>> > > > > Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right now, you'll
>> > > > > > have to check where the scr project is getting it from.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > - Ray
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>> > > > > > > raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > @org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
>> > > > > > > > immediate = false,
>> > > > > > > > name = "default",
>> > > > > > > > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>> > > > > > > > )
>> > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>> > > > > > > > > stable it is.
>> > > > > > > > > And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>> > > > > > > > > example:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > @Component (immediate = false)
>> > > > > > > > > @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>> > > > > > > > > @Service
>> > > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>> > > > > > > > > raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
>> > > > > > > prototype
>> > > > > > > > > > scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
>> > > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > > > > source.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > - Ray
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>> > > > > > > > > how
>> > > > > > > > > > > to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and no. Mostly no.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>> > > > > > > > > > > include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > instances
>> > > > > > > > > > > under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > CDI
>> > > > > > > > > > > implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>> > > > > > > > > > > feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > has a
>> > > > > > > > > > > mailing list then you should ask there.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Neil
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
>> > > > > > > pax
>> > > > > > > > > > > (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>> > > > > > > > > > > "registry".
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > every
>> > > > > > > > > > > consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > right place. I think so...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
>> > > > > > > is a
>> > > > > > > > > > > Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > see.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>> > > > > > > > > narrow
>> > > > > > > > > > > niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > question, or
>> > > > > > > > > > > that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > tools. If
>> > > > > > > > > > > you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > might
>> > > > > > > > > > > make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > different
>> > > > > > > > > > > solution.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> > > > > > > > > <x-msg:
>> > > > > > > > > > > //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>> > > > > > > > > > > getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list and at stackoverflow
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> > > > > > > > > > > <
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>> > > > > > > > > > > understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>> > > > > > > > > > > question is very important for
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>> > > > > > > > > > > e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > <>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> > > > > > > > > > (@rotty3000)
>> > > > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> > > > > > > > > > (@Liferay)
>> > > > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance)
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> > > > > > > > (@rotty3000)
>> > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> > > > > > > > (@Liferay)
>> > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> > > > > > (@rotty3000)
>> > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> > > > > > (@Liferay)
>> > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Alex Sviridov
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Raymond Augé (@rotty3000)
>> > > > Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance)
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Alex Sviridov
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alex Sviridov
>>
>>
>
>
--
Alex Sviridov
Re: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.
You are correct that the sevaral plugins just create the xml files in
the end. Unfortunately there are several competing annotations and impls
for the generation.
I was also confused when I started to work with ds and there is no good
documentation.
If you need a working example see my newest tutorial:
http://liquid-reality.de/display/liquid/2015/06/30/Apache+Karaf+Tutorial+part+10+-+Declarative+services
It uses the annotations defined by the OSGi specs and the
maven-bundle-plugin (bnd) to create the xml.
So it should match the solution Neil proposes.
Christian
On 17.07.2015 11:58, Alex Sviridov wrote:
> To tell the truth I am totally confused. I thought that DS work this way:
> Aa bundle with ds.xml file is loaded by osgi framework and ds framework reads xml files and creates osgi services.
>
> So maven plugin is used for generating this ds xml files. Am I wrong?
>
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Re: Re[2]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>.
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 10:58, Alex Sviridov wrote:
> To tell the truth I am totally confused. I thought that DS work this way:
> Aa bundle with ds.xml file is loaded by osgi framework and ds framework reads xml files and creates osgi services.
>
>
Yes this is correct.
>
> So maven plugin is used for generating this ds xml files. Am I wrong?
No, this is also correct! But you are using the wrong plugin: maven-scr-plugin is obsolete, and understands a different set of annotations.
These days the annotation processing is done directly by bnd, which is part of the maven-bundle-plugin (or bnd-maven-plugin).
>
>
> > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 10:31 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Alex, what is the relevance of the maven-scr-plugin? The annotations are processed directly by bnd, but only in the (unreleased) version 3.0. A separate Maven plugin is not required.
> >
> > The annotation library, which you will need as a dependency to compile your own code, is here: https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations < https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Neil
> >
> > > On 17 Jul 2015, at 09:40, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't understand you. I use <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> <version>1.9.12</version> and
> > > <artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files.
> > >
> > > But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component won't help, will it?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
> > > >
> > > > Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) it will contain those...
> > > >
> > > > Or you could look here https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
> > > > > Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right now, you'll
> > > > > > have to check where the scr project is getting it from.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Ray
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
> > > > > > > raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
> > > > > > > > immediate = false,
> > > > > > > > name = "default",
> > > > > > > > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
> > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
> > > > > > > > > stable it is.
> > > > > > > > > And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
> > > > > > > > > example:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @Component (immediate = false)
> > > > > > > > > @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
> > > > > > > > > @Service
> > > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
> > > > > > > > > raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
> > > > > > > prototype
> > > > > > > > > > scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > source.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Ray
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com >:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and no. Mostly no.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
> > > > > > > > > > > include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > instances
> > > > > > > > > > > under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CDI
> > > > > > > > > > > implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
> > > > > > > > > > > feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > > > > mailing list then you should ask there.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
> > > > > > > pax
> > > > > > > > > > > (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
> > > > > > > > > > > "registry".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > right place. I think so...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com >:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
> > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > > > Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > see.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
> > > > > > > > > narrow
> > > > > > > > > > > niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > question, or
> > > > > > > > > > > that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tools. If
> > > > > > > > > > > you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > > > > make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > solution.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> > > > > > > > > <x-msg:
> > > > > > > > > > > //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
> > > > > > > > > > > getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list and at stackoverflow
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
> > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
> > > > > > > > > > > understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
> > > > > > > > > > > question is very important for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> > > > > > > > > > > njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
> > > > > > > > > > > e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <>>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> > > > > > > > > > (@rotty3000)
> > > > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> > > > > > > > > > (@Liferay)
> > > > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> > > > > > > > (@rotty3000)
> > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> > > > > > > > (@Liferay)
> > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> > > > > > (@rotty3000)
> > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> > > > > > (@Liferay)
> > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Alex Sviridov
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Raymond Augé (@rotty3000)
> > > > Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alex Sviridov
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alex Sviridov
>
>
Re[2]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru>.
To tell the truth I am totally confused. I thought that DS work this way:
Aa bundle with ds.xml file is loaded by osgi framework and ds framework reads xml files and creates osgi services.
So maven plugin is used for generating this ds xml files. Am I wrong?
>Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 10:31 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>
>Alex, what is the relevance of the maven-scr-plugin? The annotations are processed directly by bnd, but only in the (unreleased) version 3.0. A separate Maven plugin is not required.
>
>The annotation library, which you will need as a dependency to compile your own code, is here: https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations < https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations >
>
>Regards,
>Neil
>
>> On 17 Jul 2015, at 09:40, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand you. I use <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> <version>1.9.12</version> and
>> <artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files.
>>
>> But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component won't help, will it?
>>
>>
>>> Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>
>>> Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) it will contain those...
>>>
>>> Or you could look here https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>>> Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>>
>>>>> that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right now, you'll
>>>>> have to check where the scr project is getting it from.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Ray
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>>>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
>>>>>>> immediate = false,
>>>>>>> name = "default",
>>>>>>> scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>>>>>>>> stable it is.
>>>>>>>> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>>>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Component (immediate = false)
>>>>>>>> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>>>>>>>> @Service
>>>>>>>> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>>>>>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
>>>>>> prototype
>>>>>>>>> scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Ray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. Mostly no.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>>>>>>>>>> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>>>>>>>> instances
>>>>>>>>>> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
>>>>>> CDI
>>>>>>>>>> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>>>>>>>>>> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list then you should ask there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
>>>>>> pax
>>>>>>>>>> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>>>>>>>>>> "registry".
>>>>>>>>>>>> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>>>>>>>>>>>> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>>>>>>>>>> right place. I think so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>>>>>>>> narrow
>>>>>>>>>> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>>>>>>>> question, or
>>>>>>>>>> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
>>>>>> tools. If
>>>>>>>>>> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>>>>> <x-msg:
>>>>>>>>>> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>>>>>>>>>> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>>>>>>>>>> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>>>>>>>>>> question is very important for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>>>>>>>>>> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>>>>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>>>>>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>>>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Raymond Augé (@rotty3000)
>>> Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>> --
>> Alex Sviridov
>
--
Alex Sviridov
Re: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>.
Alex, what is the relevance of the maven-scr-plugin? The annotations are processed directly by bnd, but only in the (unreleased) version 3.0. A separate Maven plugin is not required.
The annotation library, which you will need as a dependency to compile your own code, is here: https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations <https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations>
Regards,
Neil
> On 17 Jul 2015, at 09:40, Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru> wrote:
>
> I don't understand you. I use <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> <version>1.9.12</version> and
> <artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files.
>
> But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component won't help, will it?
>
>
>> Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>:
>>
>> Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) it will contain those...
>>
>> Or you could look here https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>> Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>
>>>> that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right now, you'll
>>>> have to check where the scr project is getting it from.
>>>>
>>>> - Ray
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
>>>>>> immediate = false,
>>>>>> name = "default",
>>>>>> scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>>>>>> )
>>>>>> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>>>>>>> stable it is.
>>>>>>> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Component (immediate = false)
>>>>>>> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>>>>>>> @Service
>>>>>>> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>>>>>>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
>>>>> prototype
>>>>>>>> scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Ray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. Mostly no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>>>>>>>>> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>>>>>>> instances
>>>>>>>>> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
>>>>> CDI
>>>>>>>>> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>>>>>>>>> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>> mailing list then you should ask there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
>>>>> pax
>>>>>>>>> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>>>>>>>>> "registry".
>>>>>>>>>>> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>>>>>>>>>>> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>>>>>>>>> right place. I think so...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>>>>>>> narrow
>>>>>>>>> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>>>>>>> question, or
>>>>>>>>> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
>>>>> tools. If
>>>>>>>>> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>>>> <x-msg:
>>>>>>>>> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>>>>>>>>> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
>>>>> at
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>>>>>>>>> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>>>>>>>>> question is very important for
>>>>>>>>>>>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>>>>>>>>> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>>>>>>>>> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>>>>
>>>>>>> <>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>>>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>>>>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>>>>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex Sviridov
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>>>> (@rotty3000)
>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>>>> (@Liferay)
>>>> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alex Sviridov
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raymond Augé (@rotty3000)
>> Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance)
>
> --
> Alex Sviridov