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Posted to dev@beam.apache.org by Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com.INVALID> on 2016/06/01 00:16:55 UTC

Re: [PROPOSAL] Beam FAQ

Javadoc publication should be a part of every release. As soon as the first
release is complete, Javadoc will be on our website.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Devin,
>
> gonna take a look !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 05/28/2016 02:20 AM, Devin Donnelly wrote:
>
>> The relevant file you're looking for, and the one that's constantly
>> updated, is:
>>
>> /docs/programming-guide.md
>>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Devin Donnelly <dd...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here's the URL of my fork, so you can see what it looks like so far:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/devin-donnelly/incubator-beam-site/tree/beam-pg
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree, it would be great to have such user guide + a started guide for
>>>> Beam.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/23/2016 04:41 PM, Jesse Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think Josh's Crunch User Guide is a great example of what a user guide
>>>>> should cover. https://crunch.apache.org/user-guide.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:00 AM Ismaël Mejía <ie...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I agree Davor for end users a getting started guide is not only
>>>>>
>>>>>> important but I would say critical at this moment, the FAQ can be an
>>>>>> effort
>>>>>> run in parallel. The project is incubating so the FAQ would be in its
>>>>>> early
>>>>>> state, and ideally we must not need an enormous FAQ, however this
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> mixes many different technologies, and I can easily imagine frequent
>>>>>> questions about technical details on Sources, Sinks, and Runners e.g.
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> question on how to reuse the context on the spark runner is a good
>>>>>> example,
>>>>>> it is not general enough to put it as a default in the runner, it is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> simple enough for a getting started guide, but a good amount of users
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> have to deal with it once they write tests for their pipelines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Devin, thanks for writing, I am interested in the draft, can you
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> share the URL of your fork, so other people can eventually take a
>>>>>> look/contribute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ismael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Devin Donnelly <
>>>>>> ddonnelly@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI: User documentation draft (the Beam Programming Guide) is well
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> underway. I'm regularly pushing stuff out to a fork of the Beam
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>> repo if anyone wants a sneak peek.
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2016 9:37 AM, "Davor Bonaci" <da...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are missing a basic getting started guide along with the rest of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> documentation. I think we should work on this first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FAQ is a great idea for things that aren't or cannot be covered by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> documents -- but, we cannot really start that before we have at least
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> draft version of the previous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wiki hosting would be owned by Infra, if we choose to go down that
>>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>>>> jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> good idea for the FAQ. Not sure for the wiki: it would prefer kind
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> governance and review using the website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 05/20/2016 09:24 AM, Ismaël Mejía wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have stumbled with some issues while trying to execute pipelines
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> different runners and I was wondering if we need to create a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Frequently
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asked
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Questions (FAQ) section on the website. Maybe it would be better to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thing as a wiki so we can contribute faster.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think ? And what way you think is the better to do so
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (infra)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ismaël
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Beam FAQ

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
+1

Regards
JB

On 06/16/2016 09:41 PM, James Malone wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Ismal Meja <ie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. Maybe it is a good idea to put the documentation in an iframe so the
>> site navigation don't get lost.
>> 2. Can we create a reference link to the latest version of the
>> documentation ? Something like
>> https://beam.apache.org/javadoc/latest/
>> This is easier to refer to the latest version of the doc and it is a common
>> practice in other projects.
>>
>
> These are both awesome ideas and they should be (I propose) part of the
> Beam site redesign. :)
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofr
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Beam FAQ

Posted by James Malone <ja...@google.com.INVALID>.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Ismaël Mejía <ie...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 1. Maybe it is a good idea to put the documentation in an iframe so the
> site navigation don't get lost.
> 2. Can we create a reference link to the latest version of the
> documentation ? Something like
> https://beam.apache.org/javadoc/latest/
> This is easier to refer to the latest version of the doc and it is a common
> practice in other projects.
>

These are both awesome ideas and they should be (I propose) part of the
Beam site redesign. :)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Beam FAQ

Posted by Ismaël Mejía <ie...@gmail.com>.
Hello, just for reference, in another thread it was mentioned that the Beam
FAQ idea already had a JIRA.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-161

I just saw that the javadoc is now online. Excellent ! You can find it in
the menu:
Technical Documentation -> API Reference

https://beam.apache.org/javadoc/0.1.0-incubating/

Davor (or the others), just two ideas:

1. Maybe it is a good idea to put the documentation in an iframe so the
site navigation don't get lost.
2. Can we create a reference link to the latest version of the
documentation ? Something like
https://beam.apache.org/javadoc/latest/
This is easier to refer to the latest version of the doc and it is a common
practice in other projects.

Regards,
Ismael


On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Javadoc publication should be a part of every release. As soon as the first
> release is complete, Javadoc will be on our website.
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Devin,
> >
> > gonna take a look !
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >
> > On 05/28/2016 02:20 AM, Devin Donnelly wrote:
> >
> >> The relevant file you're looking for, and the one that's constantly
> >> updated, is:
> >>
> >> /docs/programming-guide.md
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Devin Donnelly <dd...@google.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the URL of my fork, so you can see what it looks like so far:
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/devin-donnelly/incubator-beam-site/tree/beam-pg
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Agree, it would be great to have such user guide + a started guide for
> >>>> Beam.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 05/23/2016 04:41 PM, Jesse Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think Josh's Crunch User Guide is a great example of what a user
> guide
> >>>>> should cover. https://crunch.apache.org/user-guide.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:00 AM Ismaël Mejía <ie...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, I agree Davor for end users a getting started guide is not only
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> important but I would say critical at this moment, the FAQ can be an
> >>>>>> effort
> >>>>>> run in parallel. The project is incubating so the FAQ would be in
> its
> >>>>>> early
> >>>>>> state, and ideally we must not need an enormous FAQ, however this
> >>>>>> project
> >>>>>> mixes many different technologies, and I can easily imagine frequent
> >>>>>> questions about technical details on Sources, Sinks, and Runners
> e.g.
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>> question on how to reuse the context on the spark runner is a good
> >>>>>> example,
> >>>>>> it is not general enough to put it as a default in the runner, it is
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> simple enough for a getting started guide, but a good amount of
> users
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>> have to deal with it once they write tests for their pipelines.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Devin, thanks for writing, I am interested in the draft, can you
> >>>>>> please
> >>>>>> share the URL of your fork, so other people can eventually take a
> >>>>>> look/contribute.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ismael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Devin Donnelly <
> >>>>>> ddonnelly@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FYI: User documentation draft (the Beam Programming Guide) is well
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> underway. I'm regularly pushing stuff out to a fork of the Beam
> >>>>>>> website
> >>>>>>> repo if anyone wants a sneak peek.
> >>>>>>> On May 20, 2016 9:37 AM, "Davor Bonaci" <da...@google.com.invalid>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are missing a basic getting started guide along with the rest of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> documentation. I think we should work on this first.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> FAQ is a great idea for things that aren't or cannot be covered by
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> documents -- but, we cannot really start that before we have at
> least
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> draft version of the previous.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wiki hosting would be owned by Infra, if we choose to go down that
> >>>>>>>> path
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> some point.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >>>>>>>> jb@nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> good idea for the FAQ. Not sure for the wiki: it would prefer
> kind
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> governance and review using the website.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 05/20/2016 09:24 AM, Ismaël Mejía wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have stumbled with some issues while trying to execute
> pipelines
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> different runners and I was wondering if we need to create a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Frequently
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Asked
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Questions (FAQ) section on the website. Maybe it would be better
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> create
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> such
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thing as a wiki so we can contribute faster.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What do you think ? And what way you think is the better to do
> so
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> (infra)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Ismaël
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbonofre@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >
>