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Posted to zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org by Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info> on 2011/03/04 16:53:47 UTC
[zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Hi all,
I talked to Nicolas (eZ) during PHP UK and we both agreed that one thing
that Zeta definitely needs is *more marketing*! In any direction, I
would like to ask you to spread the word about this amazing project to
achieve the following goals:
- Attract more contributors
- Attract more users
- Make the world know that Zeta exists
There are several ways how everyone of you can help use to achieve these
goals. A small brain dump from me:
- Propose conference talks
- Organize booths on OSS exhibitions
- Present at your local user group
- Talk to co-workers about it
- Tell people on Twitter
- Write blog posts
Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
Cheers,
Toby
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Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Maxime Thomas <ma...@gmail.com>.
2011/3/8 Maxime Thomas <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>
> 2011/3/7 Henri Bergius <be...@apache.org>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Patrick ALLAERT
>> <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Increasing the presence of Zeta Components on sites like Wikipedia.
>> > I've just created the page:
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Components but this is just a WIP.
>>
>> It seems somebody already slapped a notability warning on it. So, it
>> is a good idea to ensure quickly that we meet the guidelines:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(software)
>>
>> > Patrick
>>
>> /Henri
>>
>
> For the logos, we can start from the original logo with the 3 rings or
> imagine something more sober like :
> http://www.gnu.org/graphics/license-logos.html
> <http://www.gnu.org/graphics/license-logos.html>
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/logo-usage-20000308
>
> My purpose :
>
> - 1 logo with short text : AZC : for the size : 50 pixels height * 120 long
> - 1 logo with long text : Apache Zeta Components : 50 pixels height * 220
> long
> Both will have text and graphics.To get some unity with the website, does
> someone know the font used on the website for titles ?
>
> Colors can be the blue "sea", the blue and silver from the rings of the
> website :
> http://incubator.apache.org/zetacomponents/
>
> For the format, the best is SVG.
>
> --
> Maxime
> maxime.thomas@wascou.org | www.wascou.org | http://twitter.com/wascou
>
Hi,
Where can we store the produced files and get some space for discussion ?
I tried to access the AZC wiki but I've got a Not permitted on the Add page
action.
https://cwiki.apache.org/ZETACOMP/
--
Maxime
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Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Maxime Thomas <ma...@gmail.com>.
2011/3/7 Henri Bergius <be...@apache.org>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Patrick ALLAERT
> <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Increasing the presence of Zeta Components on sites like Wikipedia.
> > I've just created the page:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Components but this is just a WIP.
>
> It seems somebody already slapped a notability warning on it. So, it
> is a good idea to ensure quickly that we meet the guidelines:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(software)
>
> > Patrick
>
> /Henri
>
For the logos, we can start from the original logo with the 3 rings or
imagine something more sober like :
http://www.gnu.org/graphics/license-logos.html
<http://www.gnu.org/graphics/license-logos.html>
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/logo-usage-20000308
My purpose :
- 1 logo with short text : AZC : for the size : 50 pixels height * 120 long
- 1 logo with long text : Apache Zeta Components : 50 pixels height * 220
long
Both will have text and graphics.To get some unity with the website, does
someone know the font used on the website for titles ?
Colors can be the blue "sea", the blue and silver from the rings of the
website :
http://incubator.apache.org/zetacomponents/
For the format, the best is SVG.
--
Maxime
maxime.thomas@wascou.org | www.wascou.org | http://twitter.com/wascou
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Henri Bergius <be...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Patrick ALLAERT
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Increasing the presence of Zeta Components on sites like Wikipedia.
> I've just created the page:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Components but this is just a WIP.
It seems somebody already slapped a notability warning on it. So, it
is a good idea to ensure quickly that we meet the guidelines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(software)
> Patrick
/Henri
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Patrick ALLAERT <pa...@gmail.com>.
2011/3/4 Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info>:
> Hi all,
>
> I talked to Nicolas (eZ) during PHP UK and we both agreed that one thing
> that Zeta definitely needs is *more marketing*! In any direction, I
> would like to ask you to spread the word about this amazing project to
> achieve the following goals:
>
> - Attract more contributors
> - Attract more users
> - Make the world know that Zeta exists
>
> There are several ways how everyone of you can help use to achieve these
> goals. A small brain dump from me:
>
> - Propose conference talks
> - Organize booths on OSS exhibitions
> - Present at your local user group
> - Talk to co-workers about it
> - Tell people on Twitter
> - Write blog posts
>
> Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
Increasing the presence of Zeta Components on sites like Wikipedia.
I've just created the page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Components but this is just a WIP.
Cheers,
Patrick
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Derick Rethans <de...@apache.org>.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Andreas Schamberger wrote:
> > Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
>
> - Replacing http://ezcomponents.org/ with a page explaining the transition to
> zeta. At the moment the website does not indicate that step. After a first
> release and fixing the zeta website there is no point in keeping it.
I could change that; but I don't know if I still should have access to
that machine (I do btw). Ole?
cheers,
Derick
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Andreas Schamberger <ma...@andreass.net>.
Hi all,
> Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
- Getting the first zeta release out ;)
- Fixing the broken/inconsistent things on the website
- Replacing http://ezcomponents.org/ with a page explaining the
transition to zeta. At the moment the website does not indicate that
step. After a first release and fixing the zeta website there is no
point in keeping it.
Regards,
Andreas
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info>.
On 03/04/2011 07:59 PM, Maxime Thomas wrote:
> We may have cool logos to show on our websites ? Like GPL's or W3C's ones.
That'd be nice, yes! :) Do you have / know some designer or other
graphically skilled person who could provide us with some "Powered by"
logos or similar?
Thanks for the input,
Toby
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Want to hire me? Need quality assurance? http://qafoo.com
eZ Components are Zeta Components now! http://bit.ly/9S7zbn
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Maxime Thomas <ma...@gmail.com>.
2011/3/4 Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info>
> Hi all,
>
> I talked to Nicolas (eZ) during PHP UK and we both agreed that one thing
> that Zeta definitely needs is *more marketing*! In any direction, I
> would like to ask you to spread the word about this amazing project to
> achieve the following goals:
>
> - Attract more contributors
> - Attract more users
> - Make the world know that Zeta exists
>
> There are several ways how everyone of you can help use to achieve these
> goals. A small brain dump from me:
>
> - Propose conference talks
> - Organize booths on OSS exhibitions
> - Present at your local user group
> - Talk to co-workers about it
> - Tell people on Twitter
> - Write blog posts
>
> Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
>
> Cheers,
> Toby
>
> --
> Tobias Schlitt http://schlitt.info GPG Key: 0xC462BC14
> Want to hire me? Need quality assurance? http://qafoo.com
> eZ Components are Zeta Components now! http://bit.ly/9S7zbn
>
We may have cool logos to show on our websites ? Like GPL's or W3C's ones.
--
Maxime
maxime.thomas@wascou.org | www.wascou.org | http://twitter.com/wascou
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Julien Vermillard <jv...@gmail.com>.
Another simple idea :
announcing releases on "announce@apache.org" and some news site about
php can provide some traffic.
Can added on the release guide :)
Due to the very solid code base of Zeta, I think the biggest challenge
in this project is to increase and animate the community.
Julien
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:40 AM, James Pic <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Martin Holzhauer <ma...@holzhauer.eu> wrote:
>> another idea,
>>
>> make the example projects from the source more popular on the website,
>> maybe set them up as demo anywhere
>>
>
> Elegance and simplicity ?
>
> What kind of website should we collaborate on in order to demo ?
>
> --
> http://jamespic.info
> Customer is king - Le client est roi - El cliente es rey.
>
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by James Pic <ja...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Martin Holzhauer <ma...@holzhauer.eu> wrote:
> another idea,
>
> make the example projects from the source more popular on the website,
> maybe set them up as demo anywhere
>
Elegance and simplicity ?
What kind of website should we collaborate on in order to demo ?
--
http://jamespic.info
Customer is king - Le client est roi - El cliente es rey.
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Martin Holzhauer <ma...@holzhauer.eu>.
another idea,
make the example projects from the source more popular on the website,
maybe set them up as demo anywhere
Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Martin Holzhauer <ma...@holzhauer.eu>.
At first add a Facebook Like button or a Link to the Facebook Page of
Zeta Components
Then what about a "Zeta Supporter" Button for Website/Blogs?
Something that says "I'm a Developer and i use/support the Apache Zeta
Components"
that are my 2 simple ideas to spread the word about Zeta :D
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Jerome Renard <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tobias,
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I talked to Nicolas (eZ) during PHP UK and we both agreed that one thing
>> that Zeta definitely needs is *more marketing*! In any direction, I
>> would like to ask you to spread the word about this amazing project to
>> achieve the following goals:
>>
>> - Attract more contributors
>> - Attract more users
>> - Make the world know that Zeta exists
>>
>> There are several ways how everyone of you can help use to achieve these
>> goals. A small brain dump from me:
>>
>> - Propose conference talks
>> - Organize booths on OSS exhibitions
>> - Present at your local user group
>> - Talk to co-workers about it
>> - Tell people on Twitter
>> - Write blog posts
>>
>> Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
>>
>>
> I totally agree with all what you said. I actually discussed about Zeta with
> a bunch of (really nice)
> guys at Redpill Linpro and they told me that Zeta was definitely bad at
> marketing.
>
> I just spent the last two days at Symfony Live in Paris and I noticed the
> following thing:
>
> - the simplest the talk is, the more audience you get. Showing really simple
> tips and tricks
> makes you (and the tool/technique/whatever you are presenting) "cool" and
> then people want
> to try this new "cool" thing.
>
> It could be something to keep in mind when prensenting Zeta to people who
> whant to know more about it.
>
> --
> Jérôme Renard
> http://39web.fr | http://jrenard.info | http://twitter.com/jeromerenard
>
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Re: [zeta-dev] Getting our lazy bums up: Marketing Zeta!
Posted by Jerome Renard <je...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tobias,
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Tobias Schlitt <to...@schlitt.info> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I talked to Nicolas (eZ) during PHP UK and we both agreed that one thing
> that Zeta definitely needs is *more marketing*! In any direction, I
> would like to ask you to spread the word about this amazing project to
> achieve the following goals:
>
> - Attract more contributors
> - Attract more users
> - Make the world know that Zeta exists
>
> There are several ways how everyone of you can help use to achieve these
> goals. A small brain dump from me:
>
> - Propose conference talks
> - Organize booths on OSS exhibitions
> - Present at your local user group
> - Talk to co-workers about it
> - Tell people on Twitter
> - Write blog posts
>
> Do you have more ideas? Please post them here!
>
>
I totally agree with all what you said. I actually discussed about Zeta with
a bunch of (really nice)
guys at Redpill Linpro and they told me that Zeta was definitely bad at
marketing.
I just spent the last two days at Symfony Live in Paris and I noticed the
following thing:
- the simplest the talk is, the more audience you get. Showing really simple
tips and tricks
makes you (and the tool/technique/whatever you are presenting) "cool" and
then people want
to try this new "cool" thing.
It could be something to keep in mind when prensenting Zeta to people who
whant to know more about it.
--
Jérôme Renard
http://39web.fr | http://jrenard.info | http://twitter.com/jeromerenard