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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> on 2009/04/14 23:14:33 UTC
[VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
"line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
keep in mind.
Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
morning (Wed 15 April).
That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
that if you think something else is better).
However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
release, hence this message!
Please vote:
[+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
15th for GMT-0)
[+0] Abstain
[-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
but only the PMC votes are binding.
Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
-David
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
Regards
Anil Patel
On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:44 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
> the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
+1
-Adrian
David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a "line
> in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a specific
> code base so that end-users who want stability over features have that
> option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make it, and that
> is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't want to delay it
> forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the
> release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning
> (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later tonight
> (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to clarify).
> To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date
> I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch directory to be
> "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if you think
> something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote, but
> only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing contributions
> over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in recent weeks and
> months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
+1
Bruno
2009/4/15, Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> Oh yeah sorry, +1
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
>
>
> On 15/04/2009, at 5:22 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for your comments Scott.
>>
>> BTW, did you mean for this to be a +1 vote for you?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hans
>>>
>>> Do you have an actual reason for wanting to delay the branch?
>>> Haven't we all known this was coming? In my mind you would need to
>>> justify a delay rather than just request one.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> On 15/04/2009, at 12:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12
>>>> hours
>>>> is rather short....
>>>>
>>>> I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and
>>>> still
>>>> 9.04 also like sally suggests.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>>>>> improvements
>>>>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is
>>>>> important to
>>>>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>>>>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>>>>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over
>>>>> features
>>>>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't
>>>>> make
>>>>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>>>>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>>>>> improvement
>>>>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>>>>> keep in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
>>>>> the
>>>>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>>>>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>>>>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>>>>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time,
>>>>> just to
>>>>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>>>>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>>>>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>>>>> that if you think something else is better).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
>>>>> the
>>>>> release, hence this message!
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be
>>>>> April
>>>>> 15th for GMT-0)
>>>>> [+0] Abstain
>>>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>>>>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>>>>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>>>>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Inviato dal mio dispositivo mobile
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Oh yeah sorry, +1
Regards
Scott
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
On 15/04/2009, at 5:22 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Thanks for your comments Scott.
>
> BTW, did you mean for this to be a +1 vote for you?
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans
>>
>> Do you have an actual reason for wanting to delay the branch?
>> Haven't we all known this was coming? In my mind you would need to
>> justify a delay rather than just request one.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> On 15/04/2009, at 12:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12
>>> hours
>>> is rather short....
>>>
>>> I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and
>>> still
>>> 9.04 also like sally suggests.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>>>> improvements
>>>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is
>>>> important to
>>>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>>>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>>>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over
>>>> features
>>>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't
>>>> make
>>>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>>>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>>>> improvement
>>>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>>>> keep in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
>>>> the
>>>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>>>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>>>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>>
>>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>>>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time,
>>>> just to
>>>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>>>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>>>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>>>> that if you think something else is better).
>>>>
>>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
>>>> the
>>>> release, hence this message!
>>>>
>>>> Please vote:
>>>>
>>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be
>>>> April
>>>> 15th for GMT-0)
>>>> [+0] Abstain
>>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>>
>>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>>>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>>>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>>>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Thanks for your comments Scott.
BTW, did you mean for this to be a +1 vote for you?
-David
On Apr 14, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
> Hi Hans
>
> Do you have an actual reason for wanting to delay the branch?
> Haven't we all known this was coming? In my mind you would need to
> justify a delay rather than just request one.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 15/04/2009, at 12:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
>> David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12
>> hours
>> is rather short....
>>
>> I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and
>> still
>> 9.04 also like sally suggests.
>>
>> regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>>> improvements
>>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is
>>> important to
>>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over
>>> features
>>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't
>>> make
>>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>>> improvement
>>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>>> keep in mind.
>>>
>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
>>> the
>>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>
>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
>>> to
>>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>>> that if you think something else is better).
>>>
>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
>>> the
>>> release, hence this message!
>>>
>>> Please vote:
>>>
>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
>>> 15th for GMT-0)
>>> [+0] Abstain
>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>
>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>> --
>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com>.
I agree with Scott. This has been discussed for months. At first we discussed a March release, but then we delayed it until April to get a few more things in.
-Adrian
--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> From: Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:40 PM
> Hi Hans
>
> Do you have an actual reason for wanting to delay the
> branch? Haven't we all known this was coming? In my
> mind you would need to justify a delay rather than just
> request one.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 15/04/2009, at 12:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to
> vote in 6-12 hours
> > is rather short....
> >
> > I would favor a week delay and release next week,
> still april and still
> > 9.04 also like sally suggests.
> >
> > regards,
> > Hans
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones
> wrote:
> >> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A
> lot of improvements
> >> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks,
> but it is important to
> >> remember that the release branch is primarily
> time-based and is a
> >> "line in the sand" as it were to begin
> the effort of stabilizing a
> >> specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features
> >> have that option. Some things make it in, and
> other things don't make
> >> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the
> line (but we don't
> >> want to delay it forever). What we have in place
> it a HUGE improvement
> >> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most
> important point to
> >> keep in mind.
> >>
> >> Along with that there is a planned press release
> coordinated with the
> >> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations
> Committee (that's a
> >> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC)
> for tomorrow
> >> morning (Wed 15 April).
> >>
> >> That said, the target date/time for the release
> branch is later
> >> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according
> to USA time, just to
> >> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have
> discussed and make it
> >> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name
> for the branch
> >> directory to be "release200904" (and
> please feel free to comment on
> >> that if you think something else is better).
> >>
> >> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a
> positive vote for the
> >> release, hence this message!
> >>
> >> Please vote:
> >>
> >> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th
> (it will be April
> >> 15th for GMT-0)
> >> [+0] Abstain
> >> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
> >>
> >> Please remember that everyone is free to (and
> encouraged to!) vote,
> >> but only the PMC votes are binding.
> >>
> >> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with
> amazing
> >> contributions over the last 2 years, and a
> heightened activity in
> >> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular
> release.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> > --Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for
> competitive rates
> >
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Hi Hans
Do you have an actual reason for wanting to delay the branch? Haven't
we all known this was coming? In my mind you would need to justify a
delay rather than just request one.
Regards
Scott
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
On 15/04/2009, at 12:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12 hours
> is rather short....
>
> I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and
> still
> 9.04 also like sally suggests.
>
> regards,
> Hans
>
> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important
>> to
>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>> improvement
>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>> keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>> that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
>> release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
>> 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Hans,
Do you mean for this to be a -1, or are you just saying you'd like
more time to consider your vote?
It is customary to allow 48 hours for voting, and if that is needed
(ie insufficient responses before that) there's no reason not to do
that.
-David
On Apr 14, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12 hours
> is rather short....
>
> I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and
> still
> 9.04 also like sally suggests.
>
> regards,
> Hans
>
> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important
>> to
>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>> improvement
>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>> keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>> that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
>> release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
>> 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
David , to start a vote and give the opportunity to vote in 6-12 hours
is rather short....
I would favor a week delay and release next week, still april and still
9.04 also like sally suggests.
regards,
Hans
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:14 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
David,
From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Jacques,
>
> Please keep in mind that everyone has a list of things they'd like to see done before the release. If we waited for all of it to
> get done we would NEVER ever do any releases, especially because as one person's list made progress other people would add more
> things to their list... and on and on and on it would go. Fortunately we have the trunk for those sorts of things, and it does
> go on and on and on.
As we already discusses, it's not about specific features I'd like to be in this release but about *security*. I thought we already
agree that we will put them in the branche after it will be freezed. Did you change your mind ?
> For the release branch, we have to draw the line somewhere, and we've been discussing this for months and delayed it a few weeks
> ago and then delayed it again a couple of days ago... and THAT'S IT! We're not delaying this forever, otherwise we might as well
> not even try to do it...
I don't want to delay anything, just be sure that at least security fixes and maybe related things like the location component://
stuff in controllers will be in the release. That's all I say below. BTW I did not find the time yet to look at the 3d point, but I
guess it's a security issue too.
Believe me, it's not whim (an new english word for me), security is an important argument for users !
Jacques
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> +1 for the branche with the points below taken into account...
>>
>> Maybe I did not make it clear but each * just below refer to each * in my 1st message.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> Well tried digression :o)
>>> * 1st point obviously a bug
>>> * 2d too
>>> * I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we should do it too (I did not look into code yet)
>>> * Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
>>>
>>> BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904). Could we not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft marketing
>>> used 95 and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or whatever form is less cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT people, like crytic
>>> things ;o) but making it clearer for eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ? The next release could be OFBiz 2009-04
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>> Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these appropriate things to put in a release branch? Are any of them things that
>>>> you'd like done but that aren't really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug fix of sorts)?
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a
>>>>> freezed branches.
>>>>> But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me this means to :
>>>>> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make
>>>>> all references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
>>>>> * Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
>>>>> * I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
>>>>> <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*) \? (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
>>>>> * Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
>>>>> location="component:// in controllers
>>>>>
>>>>> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche, before or after
>>>>> its creation. Then I will vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but
>>>>>> it is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to
>>>>>> begin the effort of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features have that option.
>>>>>> Some things make it in, and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>>>>>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most
>>>>>> important point to keep in mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations
>>>>>> Committee (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA
>>>>>> time, just to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm thinking of the
>>>>>> actual name for the branch directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if you think
>>>>>> something else is better).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please vote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
>>>>>> [+0] Abstain
>>>>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity
>>>>>> in recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Jacques,
Please keep in mind that everyone has a list of things they'd like to
see done before the release. If we waited for all of it to get done we
would NEVER ever do any releases, especially because as one person's
list made progress other people would add more things to their list...
and on and on and on it would go. Fortunately we have the trunk for
those sorts of things, and it does go on and on and on.
For the release branch, we have to draw the line somewhere, and we've
been discussing this for months and delayed it a few weeks ago and
then delayed it again a couple of days ago... and THAT'S IT! We're not
delaying this forever, otherwise we might as well not even try to do
it...
-David
On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> +1 for the branche with the points below taken into account...
>
> Maybe I did not make it clear but each * just below refer to each *
> in my 1st message.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> Well tried digression :o)
>> * 1st point obviously a bug
>> * 2d too
>> * I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we should do it too
>> (I did not look into code yet)
>> * Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
>>
>> BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904). Could we
>> not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft marketing used 95
>> and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or whatever form is less
>> cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT people, like crytic things ;o)
>> but making it clearer for eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ?
>> The next release could be OFBiz 2009-04
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>> Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these appropriate
>>> things to put in a release branch? Are any of them things that
>>> you'd like done but that aren't really bug fixes (IMO a security
>>> hole is a bug fix of sorts)?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously
>>>> agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a freezed
>>>> branches.
>>>> But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me
>>>> this means to :
>>>> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira
>>>> issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make all
>>>> references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
>>>> * Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
>>>> * I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for
>>>> <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)
>>>> \? (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
>>>> * Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd
>>>> like to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
>>>> location="component:// in controllers
>>>>
>>>> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need
>>>> to commit this changes in the new branche, before or after its
>>>> creation. Then I will vote.
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>>>>> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks,
>>>>> but it is important to remember that the release branch is
>>>>> primarily time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to
>>>>> begin the effort of stabilizing a specific code base so that
>>>>> end-users who want stability over features have that option.
>>>>> Some things make it in, and other things don't make it, and
>>>>> that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>>>>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>>>>> improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most
>>>>> important point to keep in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated
>>>>> with the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee
>>>>> (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC)
>>>>> for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is
>>>>> later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA
>>>>> time, just to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have
>>>>> discussed and make it clearly a date I'm thinking of the
>>>>> actual name for the branch directory to be
>>>>> "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if
>>>>> you think something else is better).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote
>>>>> for the release, hence this message!
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be
>>>>> April 15th for GMT-0)
>>>>> [+0] Abstain
>>>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!)
>>>>> vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>>>>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity
>>>>> in recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
+1 for the branche with the points below taken into account...
Maybe I did not make it clear but each * just below refer to each * in my 1st message.
Jacques
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> Well tried digression :o)
> * 1st point obviously a bug
> * 2d too
> * I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we should do it too (I did not look into code yet)
> * Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
>
> BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904). Could we not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft marketing used
> 95 and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or whatever form is less cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT people, like crytic things ;o)
> but making it clearer for eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ? The next release could be OFBiz 2009-04
>
> Jacques
>
>
> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these appropriate things to put in a release branch? Are any of them things that
>> you'd like done but that aren't really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug fix of sorts)?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a freezed
>>> branches.
>>> But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me this means to :
>>> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make all
>>> references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
>>> * Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
>>> * I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
>>> <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\? (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
>>> * Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
>>> location="component:// in controllers
>>>
>>> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche, before or after its
>>> creation. Then I will vote.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
>>>> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the
>>>> effort of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features have that option. Some things
>>>> make it in, and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't want to delay it
>>>> forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>>>> keep in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee
>>>> (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>>
>>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time,
>>>> just to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name
>>>> for the branch directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if you think something else is
>>>> better).
>>>>
>>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>>>>
>>>> Please vote:
>>>>
>>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
>>>> [+0] Abstain
>>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>>
>>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>>>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
> lol wut?
I knew lol not lol wut, I learn everyday :o)
> I thought you were the one who suggested Ubuntu revision conventions.
Yes I'm, only fools don't change their mind ;o)
>Let's keep it at 9.04 please.
OK too late, anyway not a big deal
There are more important things to consider.
Yes, like the 4 other points...
Jacques
> -Adrian
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
>> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
>> Well tried digression :o)
>> * 1st point obviously a bug
>> * 2d too
>> * I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we
>> should do it too (I did not look into code yet)
>> * Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
>>
>> BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904).
>> Could we not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft
>> marketing used 95 and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or
>> whatever form is less cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT
>> people, like crytic things ;o) but making it clearer for
>> eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ? The next
>> release could be OFBiz 2009-04
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> From: "David E Jones"
>> <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> > Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these
>> appropriate things to put in a release branch? Are any of
>> them things that you'd like done but that aren't
>> really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug fix of
>> sorts)?
>> >
>> > -David
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> >
>> >> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points.
>> As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs
>> fixes in a freezed branches.
>> >> But I think that we need to finish the secured
>> URLs job. For me this means to :
>> >> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I
>> will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come
>> with a tool to make all references clear, we can't rely
>> on chance here)
>> >> * Treat the secured URLs exception
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
>> >> * I suggested to process targets with params in
>> forms : look for
>> <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
>> <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\?
>> (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
>> >> * Not related to securing URL but as we already
>> discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace
>> location="org.ofbiz. by location="component:// in
>> controllers
>> >>
>> >> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion
>> is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche,
>> before or after its creation. Then I will vote.
>> >>
>> >> Jacques
>> >>
>> >> From: "David E Jones"
>> <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> >>> Today is the day we have discussed for a
>> while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over
>> the last few weeks, but it is important to remember that
>> the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort
>> of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who
>> want stability over features have that option. Some things
>> make it in, and other things don't make it, and that
>> is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>> improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the
>> most important point to keep in mind.
>> >>>
>> >>> Along with that there is a planned press
>> release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation
>> Public Relations Committee (that's a mouthful! no
>> wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning
>> (Wed 15 April).
>> >>>
>> >>> That said, the target date/time for the
>> release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I
>> mean according to USA time, just to clarify). To follow
>> the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a
>> date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel
>> free to comment on that if you think something else is
>> better).
>> >>>
>> >>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have
>> a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>> >>>
>> >>> Please vote:
>> >>>
>> >>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April
>> 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
>> >>> [+0] Abstain
>> >>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>> >>>
>> >>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and
>> encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible
>> with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a
>> heightened activity in recent weeks and months to make this
>> a spectacular release.
>> >>>
>> >>> -David
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com>.
lol wut?
I thought you were the one who suggested Ubuntu revision conventions. Let's keep it at 9.04 please. There are more important things to consider.
-Adrian
--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> From: Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
> Well tried digression :o)
> * 1st point obviously a bug
> * 2d too
> * I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we
> should do it too (I did not look into code yet)
> * Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
>
> BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904).
> Could we not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft
> marketing used 95 and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or
> whatever form is less cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT
> people, like crytic things ;o) but making it clearer for
> eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ? The next
> release could be OFBiz 2009-04
>
> Jacques
>
>
> From: "David E Jones"
> <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> > Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these
> appropriate things to put in a release branch? Are any of
> them things that you'd like done but that aren't
> really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug fix of
> sorts)?
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >
> >> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points.
> As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs
> fixes in a freezed branches.
> >> But I think that we need to finish the secured
> URLs job. For me this means to :
> >> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I
> will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come
> with a tool to make all references clear, we can't rely
> on chance here)
> >> * Treat the secured URLs exception
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
> >> * I suggested to process targets with params in
> forms : look for
> <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
> <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\?
> (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
> >> * Not related to securing URL but as we already
> discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace
> location="org.ofbiz. by location="component:// in
> controllers
> >>
> >> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion
> is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche,
> before or after its creation. Then I will vote.
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >> From: "David E Jones"
> <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>> Today is the day we have discussed for a
> while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over
> the last few weeks, but it is important to remember that
> the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort
> of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who
> want stability over features have that option. Some things
> make it in, and other things don't make it, and that
> is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
> improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the
> most important point to keep in mind.
> >>>
> >>> Along with that there is a planned press
> release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation
> Public Relations Committee (that's a mouthful! no
> wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning
> (Wed 15 April).
> >>>
> >>> That said, the target date/time for the
> release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I
> mean according to USA time, just to clarify). To follow
> the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a
> date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel
> free to comment on that if you think something else is
> better).
> >>>
> >>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have
> a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
> >>>
> >>> Please vote:
> >>>
> >>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April
> 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
> >>> [+0] Abstain
> >>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
> >>>
> >>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and
> encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible
> with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a
> heightened activity in recent weeks and months to make this
> a spectacular release.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>
> >>
> >
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Well tried digression :o)
* 1st point obviously a bug
* 2d too
* I'd like to discuss this point, do you agree we should do it too (I did not look into code yet)
* Not a bug but IMPO should be in release 9.04 too
BTW I thought about your branch name propostion (200904). Could we not use a such name for our releases. Microsoft marketing used 95
and 98 then 2000. Obviously 2009-04 or whatever form is less cryptice than 9.04. I know we, IT people, like crytic things ;o) but
making it clearer for eveyrone is all about marketing, isn'it ? The next release could be OFBiz 2009-04
Jacques
From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these appropriate things to put in a release branch? Are any of them things that
> you'd like done but that aren't really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug fix of sorts)?
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a freezed
>> branches.
>> But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me this means to :
>> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make all
>> references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
>> * Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
>> * I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
>> <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\? (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
>> * Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
>> location="component:// in controllers
>>
>> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche, before or after its
>> creation. Then I will vote.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
>>> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the
>>> effort of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features have that option. Some things
>>> make it in, and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't want to delay it
>>> forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>>> keep in mind.
>>>
>>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee
>>> (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>>>
>>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time,
>>> just to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name
>>> for the branch directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if you think something else is
>>> better).
>>>
>>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>>>
>>> Please vote:
>>>
>>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
>>> [+0] Abstain
>>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>>
>>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>>
>>> -David
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Well, what do you think Jacques? Are each of these appropriate things
to put in a release branch? Are any of them things that you'd like
done but that aren't really bug fixes (IMO a security hole is a bug
fix of sorts)?
-David
On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously
> agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a freezed
> branches.
> But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me this
> means to :
> * Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira
> issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make all
> references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
> * Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
> * I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for
> <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and <<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\?
> (.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
> * Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd like
> to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
> location="component:// in controllers
>
> That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need to
> commit this changes in the new branche, before or after its
> creation. Then I will vote.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but
>> it is important to remember that the release branch is primarily
>> time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the
>> effort of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who
>> want stability over features have that option. Some things make it
>> in, and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter
>> when we draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever).
>> What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0
>> branch, and that is the most important point to keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
>> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's
>> a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
>> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
>> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment
>> on that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
>> the release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be
>> April 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!)
>> vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Before voting I'd like to clarify some points. As we previously agreed we should not put anything but bugs fixes in a freezed
branches.
But I think that we need to finish the secured URLs job. For me this means to :
* Fix the URL calling services in FTL files (I will open a Jira issue for this as soons as I will come with a tool to make all
references clear, we can't rely on chance here)
* Treat the secured URLs exception https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2272
* I suggested to process targets with params in forms : look for <<form(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>> and
<<form.(*)\R(.*)target=(.*)\?(.*)=(.*)>>, what about this ?
* Not related to securing URL but as we already discussed, I'd like to test, and if OK, replace location="org.ofbiz. by
location="component:// in controllers
That's all I see for the moment. So my opinion is that we need to commit this changes in the new branche, before or after its
creation. Then I will vote.
Jacques
From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is
> important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort
> of stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What
> we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee
> (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time,
> just to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for
> the branch directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Pranay Pandey <pr...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
Thanks & Regards
--
Pranay Pandey
On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:44 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
> the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Shi Yusen <sh...@langhua.cn>.
+1
Great work!
Cheers
在 2009-04-14二的 15:14 -0600，David E Jones写道：
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Ashish Vijaywargiya <as...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
--
Ashish Vijaywargiya
David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by guo weizhan <gu...@gmail.com>.
I miss this list before :(
Congratulations!
Thanks to everyone.
Weizhan Guo
2009/4/18 Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>
> Best wishes to OFBiz 9.4 !!!!!
> Many thanks to everyone !!!!
> -Bruno
>
> 2009/4/17 Pranay Pandey <pr...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>
> > Thanks David.
> >
> > This is another milestone achieved by OFBiz community. Congratulations to
> > all involved in the project.
> >
> > Regards
> > --
> > Pranay Pandey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
> >
> > Thanks David for creating the branch release.
> >>
> >> Thanks to everybody who is involved directly / indirectly in the project
> !
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ashish Vijaywargiya
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, thank you David, and thank you also to all the people that made
> this
> >>> new step for OFBiz possible!
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
> >>>
> >>> David,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the forthcoming
> >>>> press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Adrian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
Best wishes to OFBiz 9.4 !!!!!
Many thanks to everyone !!!!
-Bruno
2009/4/17 Pranay Pandey <pr...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Thanks David.
>
> This is another milestone achieved by OFBiz community. Congratulations to
> all involved in the project.
>
> Regards
> --
> Pranay Pandey
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
>
> Thanks David for creating the branch release.
>>
>> Thanks to everybody who is involved directly / indirectly in the project !
>>
>> --
>> Ashish Vijaywargiya
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, thank you David, and thank you also to all the people that made this
>>> new step for OFBiz possible!
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> David,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the forthcoming
>>>> press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Pranay Pandey <pr...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Thanks David.
This is another milestone achieved by OFBiz community. Congratulations
to all involved in the project.
Regards
--
Pranay Pandey
On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
> Thanks David for creating the branch release.
>
> Thanks to everybody who is involved directly / indirectly in the
> project !
>
> --
> Ashish Vijaywargiya
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, thank you David, and thank you also to all the people that
>> made this
>> new step for OFBiz possible!
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the
>>> forthcoming
>>> press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Ashish Vijaywargiya <vi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks David for creating the branch release.
Thanks to everybody who is involved directly / indirectly in the project !
--
Ashish Vijaywargiya
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Yes, thank you David, and thank you also to all the people that made this
> new step for OFBiz possible!
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
>
>> David,
>>
>>
>> Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the forthcoming
>> press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Yes, thank you David, and thank you also to all the people that made this new step for OFBiz possible!
Jacques
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@yahoo.com>
> David,
>
> Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the forthcoming press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
>
> -Adrian
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/17/09, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> From: David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
>> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:08 AM
>> Okay, at long last the release branch is created. The URL
>> for it is:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release09.04
>>
>> Tim Ruppert will be heading up build and demo resources for
>> this in the near future, and for now it is in SVN.
>>
>> Just as with the release4.0 branch this now means as
>> contributors to the trunk we should watch out for fixes that
>> should also go into the branch and apply them there as well.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has helped, and everyone who is
>> continuing to help, with this.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:59 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > [+1] Binding: David, Adrian, Anil, Scott, Jacopo
>> > [+1] Non-binding: Sam, Tim, Ashish, Vikas, Bruno,
>> Pranay, Shi, Marco, Ravindra
>> > [+0]: 0
>> > [-1]: 0
>> >
>> > Based on this result (more than 3 binding +1 votes and
>> more +1 than -1 votes) the vote has passed.
>> >
>> > In respect for comments about the time, I'll wait
>> for about 12 hours more from the time of this email (that
>> makes it mid-day Thursday my time) to do the actual branch.
>> If anyone would like to vote after this that's fine, but
>> unless something major comes up we'll consider this vote
>> binding and do the release branch as has been planned for
>> (though ~1.5 days after). With that timing the press release
>> should go out early (probably Monday) of next week, for
>> those interested in such things.
>> >
>> > -David
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A
>> lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few
>> weeks, but it is important to remember that the release
>> branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the
>> sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over
>> features have that option. Some things make it in, and other
>> things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
>> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever).
>> What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the
>> release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>> keep in mind.
>> >>
>> >> Along with that there is a planned press release
>> coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public
>> Relations Committee (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use
>> acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
>> >>
>> >> That said, the target date/time for the release
>> branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean
>> according to USA time, just to clarify). To follow the date
>> pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm
>> thinking of the actual name for the branch directory to be
>> "release200904" (and please feel free to comment
>> on that if you think something else is better).
>> >>
>> >> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a
>> positive vote for the release, hence this message!
>> >>
>> >> Please vote:
>> >>
>> >> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th
>> (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
>> >> [+0] Abstain
>> >> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>> >>
>> >> Please remember that everyone is free to (and
>> encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with
>> amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a
>> heightened activity in recent weeks and months to make this
>> a spectacular release.
>> >>
>> >> -David
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com>.
David,
Thank you so much for your work on this! Combined with the forthcoming press release, I believe OFBiz will be entering a new era.
-Adrian
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> From: David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:08 AM
> Okay, at long last the release branch is created. The URL
> for it is:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release09.04
>
> Tim Ruppert will be heading up build and demo resources for
> this in the near future, and for now it is in SVN.
>
> Just as with the release4.0 branch this now means as
> contributors to the trunk we should watch out for fixes that
> should also go into the branch and apply them there as well.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has helped, and everyone who is
> continuing to help, with this.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:59 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> >
> > [+1] Binding: David, Adrian, Anil, Scott, Jacopo
> > [+1] Non-binding: Sam, Tim, Ashish, Vikas, Bruno,
> Pranay, Shi, Marco, Ravindra
> > [+0]: 0
> > [-1]: 0
> >
> > Based on this result (more than 3 binding +1 votes and
> more +1 than -1 votes) the vote has passed.
> >
> > In respect for comments about the time, I'll wait
> for about 12 hours more from the time of this email (that
> makes it mid-day Thursday my time) to do the actual branch.
> If anyone would like to vote after this that's fine, but
> unless something major comes up we'll consider this vote
> binding and do the release branch as has been planned for
> (though ~1.5 days after). With that timing the press release
> should go out early (probably Monday) of next week, for
> those interested in such things.
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A
> lot of improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few
> weeks, but it is important to remember that the release
> branch is primarily time-based and is a "line in the
> sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over
> features have that option. Some things make it in, and other
> things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever).
> What we have in place it a HUGE improvement over the
> release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
> >>
> >> Along with that there is a planned press release
> coordinated with the Apache Software Foundation Public
> Relations Committee (that's a mouthful! no wonder we use
> acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow morning (Wed 15 April).
> >>
> >> That said, the target date/time for the release
> branch is later tonight (and when I say tonight I mean
> according to USA time, just to clarify). To follow the date
> pattern we have discussed and make it clearly a date I'm
> thinking of the actual name for the branch directory to be
> "release200904" (and please feel free to comment
> on that if you think something else is better).
> >>
> >> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a
> positive vote for the release, hence this message!
> >>
> >> Please vote:
> >>
> >> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th
> (it will be April 15th for GMT-0)
> >> [+0] Abstain
> >> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
> >>
> >> Please remember that everyone is free to (and
> encouraged to!) vote, but only the PMC votes are binding.
> >>
> >> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with
> amazing contributions over the last 2 years, and a
> heightened activity in recent weeks and months to make this
> a spectacular release.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Okay, at long last the release branch is created. The URL for it is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release09.04
Tim Ruppert will be heading up build and demo resources for this in
the near future, and for now it is in SVN.
Just as with the release4.0 branch this now means as contributors to
the trunk we should watch out for fixes that should also go into the
branch and apply them there as well.
Thanks to everyone who has helped, and everyone who is continuing to
help, with this.
-David
On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:59 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> [+1] Binding: David, Adrian, Anil, Scott, Jacopo
> [+1] Non-binding: Sam, Tim, Ashish, Vikas, Bruno, Pranay, Shi,
> Marco, Ravindra
> [+0]: 0
> [-1]: 0
>
> Based on this result (more than 3 binding +1 votes and more +1 than
> -1 votes) the vote has passed.
>
> In respect for comments about the time, I'll wait for about 12 hours
> more from the time of this email (that makes it mid-day Thursday my
> time) to do the actual branch. If anyone would like to vote after
> this that's fine, but unless something major comes up we'll consider
> this vote binding and do the release branch as has been planned for
> (though ~1.5 days after). With that timing the press release should
> go out early (probably Monday) of next week, for those interested in
> such things.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
>> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
>> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
>> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
>> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
>> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
>> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
>> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
>> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
>> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
>> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
>> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
>> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>> that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
>> the release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be
>> April 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>>
>
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Erwan de FERRIERES <er...@nereide.biz>.
David,
i'm trying to make a JIRA to update the poi.jar library in OFBiz, just
before creating the branch.
Hope that could be integrated before the creation !
Cheers
David E Jones a écrit :
>
> [+1] Binding: David, Adrian, Anil, Scott, Jacopo
> [+1] Non-binding: Sam, Tim, Ashish, Vikas, Bruno, Pranay, Shi, Marco,
> Ravindra
> [+0]: 0
> [-1]: 0
>
> Based on this result (more than 3 binding +1 votes and more +1 than -1
> votes) the vote has passed.
>
> In respect for comments about the time, I'll wait for about 12 hours
> more from the time of this email (that makes it mid-day Thursday my
> time) to do the actual branch. If anyone would like to vote after this
> that's fine, but unless something major comes up we'll consider this
> vote binding and do the release branch as has been planned for (though
> ~1.5 days after). With that timing the press release should go out early
> (probably Monday) of next week, for those interested in such things.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>> keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>> that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
>> release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
>> 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>>
>
>
--
- Erwan -
[VOTE][RESULT] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
[+1] Binding: David, Adrian, Anil, Scott, Jacopo
[+1] Non-binding: Sam, Tim, Ashish, Vikas, Bruno, Pranay, Shi, Marco,
Ravindra
[+0]: 0
[-1]: 0
Based on this result (more than 3 binding +1 votes and more +1 than -1
votes) the vote has passed.
In respect for comments about the time, I'll wait for about 12 hours
more from the time of this email (that makes it mid-day Thursday my
time) to do the actual branch. If anyone would like to vote after this
that's fine, but unless something major comes up we'll consider this
vote binding and do the release branch as has been planned for (though
~1.5 days after). With that timing the press release should go out
early (probably Monday) of next week, for those interested in such
things.
-David
On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
> the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com>.
--- On Tue, 4/14/09, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> Anyway, I apologize for this further delay, but I don't
> think we're in any hurry here... I like the think of
> setting a specific date as a way to coordinate all of the
> many things that need to happen for an effort like this. As
> long as an early pre-requisite of other complex things
> doesn't slip then it's not such a huge deal (and
> this isn't a commercial effort with thousands of
> financially at-risk stakeholders or something... or is it?
> ;) ).
Aaaaahhhhh!!!!!
*Companies crashing and burning, mass devastation*
Just kidding.
Like you said, a line has to be drawn somewhere.
-Adrian
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Just an FYI: it appears that due to some other things going on with
the PRC that the press release will NOT be ready for tomorrow, and
instead will be going out on Monday.
I don't think we have any reason to delay the release branch itself
(and it'll be great to have a few days for binary builds to get going
and people to play with it before the press release anyway), but this
does mean there is no reason to rush to get it in during the next few
hours as no press release will be going out (and it we delay we don't
have to ask them to hold the press release).
Just so everyone knows, creating and coordinating this press release
has been going for about 3 weeks now and is a significant effort
overall with over 20 people involved (on the OFBiz side as well as on
the ASF PRC side), not to mention the hundreds of people it will go to
after it is finally released.
Anyway, I apologize for this further delay, but I don't think we're in
any hurry here... I like the think of setting a specific date as a way
to coordinate all of the many things that need to happen for an effort
like this. As long as an early pre-requisite of other complex things
doesn't slip then it's not such a huge deal (and this isn't a
commercial effort with thousands of financially at-risk stakeholders
or something... or is it? ;) ).
-David
On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
> the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Ravindra Mandre <ra...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
Regards
Ravindra Mandre
David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of
> improvements and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it
> is important to remember that the release branch is primarily time-
> based and is a "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of
> stabilizing a specific code base so that end-users who want
> stability over features have that option. Some things make it in,
> and other things don't make it, and that is true no matter when we
> draw the line (but we don't want to delay it forever). What we have
> in place it a HUGE improvement over the release4.0 branch, and that
> is the most important point to keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with
> the Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just
> to clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make
> it clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for
> the release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Vikas Mayur <vi...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
Vikas
On Apr 15, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> +1
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Sam Hamilton" <sa...@virtualvillage.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On 15/04/2009 05:14, "David Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
>> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important
>> to
>> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
>> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
>> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
>> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
>> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
>> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
>> improvement
>> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
>> keep in mind.
>>
>> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
>> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
>> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
>> morning (Wed 15 April).
>>
>> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
>> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
>> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
>> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
>> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
>> that if you think something else is better).
>>
>> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
>> release, hence this message!
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
>> 15th for GMT-0)
>> [+0] Abstain
>> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>>
>> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
>> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
>> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
>> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Hamilton
>> CTO
>> Virtual Village
>>
>> Tel: +86 (21) 6271 3051
>> Fax: +86 (21) 5228 8539
>> Mobile: +86 (135) 2451 4480
>> E-mail: sam.hamilton@virtualvillage.com
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
----- "Sam Hamilton" <sa...@virtualvillage.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> Sam
>
>
> On 15/04/2009 05:14, "David Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
> and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important
> to
> remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
> "line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
> specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
> have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
> it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
> want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE
> improvement
> over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
> keep in mind.
>
> Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
> Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
> mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
> morning (Wed 15 April).
>
> That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
> tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
> clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
> clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
> directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
> that if you think something else is better).
>
> However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
> release, hence this message!
>
> Please vote:
>
> [+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
> 15th for GMT-0)
> [+0] Abstain
> [-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
>
> Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
> but only the PMC votes are binding.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
> contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
> recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
>
> -David
>
>
>
>
>
> Sam Hamilton
> CTO
> Virtual Village
>
> Tel: +86 (21) 6271 3051
> Fax: +86 (21) 5228 8539
> Mobile: +86 (135) 2451 4480
> E-mail: sam.hamilton@virtualvillage.com
Re: [VOTE] Create Release Branch 2009.04
Posted by Sam Hamilton <sa...@virtualvillage.com>.
+1
Sam
On 15/04/2009 05:14, "David Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
Today is the day we have discussed for a while! A lot of improvements
and fixes have gone in over the last few weeks, but it is important to
remember that the release branch is primarily time-based and is a
"line in the sand" as it were to begin the effort of stabilizing a
specific code base so that end-users who want stability over features
have that option. Some things make it in, and other things don't make
it, and that is true no matter when we draw the line (but we don't
want to delay it forever). What we have in place it a HUGE improvement
over the release4.0 branch, and that is the most important point to
keep in mind.
Along with that there is a planned press release coordinated with the
Apache Software Foundation Public Relations Committee (that's a
mouthful! no wonder we use acronyms like: ASF PRC) for tomorrow
morning (Wed 15 April).
That said, the target date/time for the release branch is later
tonight (and when I say tonight I mean according to USA time, just to
clarify). To follow the date pattern we have discussed and make it
clearly a date I'm thinking of the actual name for the branch
directory to be "release200904" (and please feel free to comment on
that if you think something else is better).
However, that I will only do that IFF we have a positive vote for the
release, hence this message!
Please vote:
[+1] Create the release branch tonight, April 14th (it will be April
15th for GMT-0)
[+0] Abstain
[-1] Do not create the release branch tonight
Please remember that everyone is free to (and encouraged to!) vote,
but only the PMC votes are binding.
Thanks to everyone who has made this possible with amazing
contributions over the last 2 years, and a heightened activity in
recent weeks and months to make this a spectacular release.
-David
Sam Hamilton
CTO
Virtual Village
Tel: +86 (21) 6271 3051
Fax: +86 (21) 5228 8539
Mobile: +86 (135) 2451 4480
E-mail: sam.hamilton@virtualvillage.com