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TEI and cocoon
I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to convert the
XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the cocoon wiki
discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon -
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
This tag is extensively used in the TEI stylesheets, so I wanted to find out
if others had used these stylesheets and modified them or if they had their
own which work with the TEI Lite DTD.
Thanks in advance,
Warner
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
On 4/4/03 2:05 PM, "Upayavira" <uv...@upaya.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
>> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to convert
>> the XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the cocoon
>> wiki discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon
>> - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
>
> It's not that it won't work, more that you shouldn't be using it for certain
> functionality.
> Therefore, if it is in an existing stylesheet, you might well find it works
> anyway.
>
> Can you say more about what the problems are that you're having?
Sure, I am using Cocoon 2.0.4, I have my config something like this (it's at
work, but it should be close):
Xml directory - content
Xsl directory - transforms
There is one master xsl stylesheet which is mapped in the sitemap conf. All
xml in content are mapped to this stylesheet.
Originally when I was calling the xml doc I was getting a weird xalan
exception, so I switched over to saxon 6.5.2 as my processor. Now what is
happening is I am getting an empty html doc returned (with just the most
basic html tags nothing else) and a real file is being generated in my
content directory.
Let me know if anything I said is unclear.
-warner
>
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to convert
> the XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the cocoon
> wiki discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon
> - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
It's not that it won't work, more that you shouldn't be using it for certain functionality.
Therefore, if it is in an existing stylesheet, you might well find it works anyway.
Can you say more about what the problems are that you're having?
Upayavira
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
Ok, finally got some more digging done and now I am actually getting an
error which somewhat explains why I am getting a blank html file (but not
why it isn't actually processing the xml and spitting it back to me).
In one of my log files for the servlet container I am getting a
java.lang.IllegalStateException - committed. This is occurring in the
resetbuffer. After doing some reading it appears that something is trying to
reset the headers after they've been sent, so cocoon just returns an empty
document.
Still trying to figure out what in the world these stylesheets are doing.
-warner
On 4/9/03 3:21 PM, "Warner Onstine" <sw...@warneronstine.com> wrote:
> I completely misread your response. I thought you said that there were XSL
> stylesheets on the site (which there aren't).
>
> Which stylesheets are you using?
>
> -warner
>
> On 4/6/03 8:47 AM, "Warner Onstine" <sw...@warneronstine.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I'll check these out and see if they fix the problem.
>>
>> -warner
>>
>> On 4/5/03 11:37 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Warner I have used these stylesheets in Cocoon in part of this website:
>>> http://www.nzetc.org/
>>>
>>> AFAIK the xsl:output tag is not a problem - in Cocoon the serialization is
>>> controlled by the sitemap (the map:serialize element), so the xsl:output
>>> directive in the stylesheets is ignored.
>>>
>>> I've used them without modification
>>>
>>> However, I have used other stylesheets to post-process the resulting HTML
>>> since they do rather mix concerns; they not only convert TEI to html, they
>>> also add navigation links, banners, etc. In a Cocoon environment it's
>>> feasible to deal with these concerns as separate steps in a pipeline, so I
>>> personally haven't used any of these "non-essential" features of the
>>> stylesheets.
>>>
>>> Con
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:54
>>>> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>>>> Subject: TEI and cocoon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
>>>> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to
>>>> convert the
>>>> XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the
>>>> cocoon wiki
>>>> discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon -
>>>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
>>>>
>>>> This tag is extensively used in the TEI stylesheets, so I
>>>> wanted to find out
>>>> if others had used these stylesheets and modified them or if
>>>> they had their
>>>> own which work with the TEI Lite DTD.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Warner
>>>>
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Re: Fixed - TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
Well, after switching back to the original xalan/xerces jars and still
getting an empty page (literally no html). I decided to go trolling through
the xsl. Apparently TEI really wants to write out the html files as there
are several places that use either custom saxon tags or custom exslt (xslt
extenstions) to allow the stylesheets to output html.
Once I commented out all those sections I finally got some output, not bad,
I still want to do some tweaking on it.
Thanks for the help with this.
-warner
On 4/13/03 10:17 AM, "Warner Onstine" <sw...@warneronstine.com> wrote:
> On 4/12/03 11:04 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> Warner wrote:
>>
>>>> Also, see if you can get a result (in Cocoon) using a
>>> minimal TEI document.
>>>
>>> Yep, tried that too. Same results (creates an actual html file in the
>>> content directory but doesn't return an actual document).
>>
>> The stylesheets create a file directly? I see. It was about a year ago I
>> worked on this ... but I seem to remember ...
>>
>> These stylesheets are designed to be able to create several files (i.e. to
>> split the TEI up into several HTML files). To do this, the stylesheets use a
>> number of different processor-specific techniques. You MUST avoid this,
>> because Cocoon does not allow the stylesheet to serialize files directly -
>> the output of a stylesheet in Cocoon is sent to the next stage in the
>> pipeline as SAX events. If the stylesheet uses a proprietary extension to
>> serialize the data itself, then there will be no output for Cocoon to
>> serialize and you will get a blank page.
>
> Yep, that's what I've been trying to figure out, how to turn off generating
> an actual file.
>
>>
>> Looking again at my stylesheet, I see that I've set the parameter
>> "masterFile" to nothing, i.e.
>> <xsl:variable name="masterFile"/>
>> I believe this may be what prevents the stylesheet from creating a file
>> itself.
>
> Thank you, I will try this tomorrow and see what happens.
>
>>
>> I have used the stylesheets with the standard Cocoon XSLT processor but not
>> with Saxon, so I also recommend you try the same (because I know this CAN
>> work, whereas I can't guarantee with Saxon).
>
> I tried it originally with the built-in parser and wasn't even getting a
> blank html page. So, I will go back and make some changes to see what I can
> get it to do.
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> -warner
>
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>> Con
>>
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
On 4/12/03 11:04 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Warner wrote:
>
>>> Also, see if you can get a result (in Cocoon) using a
>> minimal TEI document.
>>
>> Yep, tried that too. Same results (creates an actual html file in the
>> content directory but doesn't return an actual document).
>
> The stylesheets create a file directly? I see. It was about a year ago I
> worked on this ... but I seem to remember ...
>
> These stylesheets are designed to be able to create several files (i.e. to
> split the TEI up into several HTML files). To do this, the stylesheets use a
> number of different processor-specific techniques. You MUST avoid this,
> because Cocoon does not allow the stylesheet to serialize files directly -
> the output of a stylesheet in Cocoon is sent to the next stage in the
> pipeline as SAX events. If the stylesheet uses a proprietary extension to
> serialize the data itself, then there will be no output for Cocoon to
> serialize and you will get a blank page.
Yep, that's what I've been trying to figure out, how to turn off generating
an actual file.
>
> Looking again at my stylesheet, I see that I've set the parameter
> "masterFile" to nothing, i.e.
> <xsl:variable name="masterFile"/>
> I believe this may be what prevents the stylesheet from creating a file
> itself.
Thank you, I will try this tomorrow and see what happens.
>
> I have used the stylesheets with the standard Cocoon XSLT processor but not
> with Saxon, so I also recommend you try the same (because I know this CAN
> work, whereas I can't guarantee with Saxon).
I tried it originally with the built-in parser and wasn't even getting a
blank html page. So, I will go back and make some changes to see what I can
get it to do.
Thanks for all the help.
-warner
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Con
>
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RE: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Conal Tuohy <co...@paradise.net.nz>.
Warner wrote:
> > Also, see if you can get a result (in Cocoon) using a
> minimal TEI document.
>
> Yep, tried that too. Same results (creates an actual html file in the
> content directory but doesn't return an actual document).
The stylesheets create a file directly? I see. It was about a year ago I
worked on this ... but I seem to remember ...
These stylesheets are designed to be able to create several files (i.e. to
split the TEI up into several HTML files). To do this, the stylesheets use a
number of different processor-specific techniques. You MUST avoid this,
because Cocoon does not allow the stylesheet to serialize files directly -
the output of a stylesheet in Cocoon is sent to the next stage in the
pipeline as SAX events. If the stylesheet uses a proprietary extension to
serialize the data itself, then there will be no output for Cocoon to
serialize and you will get a blank page.
Looking again at my stylesheet, I see that I've set the parameter
"masterFile" to nothing, i.e.
<xsl:variable name="masterFile"/>
I believe this may be what prevents the stylesheet from creating a file
itself.
I have used the stylesheets with the standard Cocoon XSLT processor but not
with Saxon, so I also recommend you try the same (because I know this CAN
work, whereas I can't guarantee with Saxon).
Best of luck!
Con
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
On 4/11/03 10:22 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Walter - it looks totally straightforward. I think you're doing everything
> fine.
>
> Can you use the stylesheets successfully from the command-line? i.e. outside
> of Cocoon. Try running them using Xalan from a command-line and see if you
> get any results - at least a better error message. :-)
Yes, these templates are currently in production using Saxon.
>
> Also, see if you can get a result (in Cocoon) using a minimal TEI document.
Yep, tried that too. Same results (creates an actual html file in the
content directory but doesn't return an actual document).
-warner
>
> Con
>
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RE: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Conal Tuohy <co...@paradise.net.nz>.
Walter - it looks totally straightforward. I think you're doing everything
fine.
Can you use the stylesheets successfully from the command-line? i.e. outside
of Cocoon. Try running them using Xalan from a command-line and see if you
get any results - at least a better error message. :-)
Also, see if you can get a result (in Cocoon) using a minimal TEI document.
Con
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
On 4/10/03 10:10 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>> I'm using Sebastian Rahtz's stylesheets: "teixsl-html"
>>
>> Are these the same stylesheets from TEI's website?
>
> Yes.
>
>>> How are you calling the stylesheets, Warner? Do you pass
>> any parameters?
>>
>> I have setup a pipeline with a match statement, the content
>> files (xml) are
>> in content and the xsl stylesheets are in transforms. I just
>> do a straight
>> pass to a custom stylesheet custom.xsl which has the following in it:
>> First it imports teihtmll.xsl
>> Then it sets up several variables and three parameters.
>>
>> If you want I can attach and send the file for further examination.
>
> I suggest you should post the pipeline from your sitemap, and your top-level
> stylesheet, if that also passes parameters.
> What parameters are you passing to to Sebastian's style-sheets?
You'll see those in the attached top-level stylesheet. Here is the pipeline
snippet:
<map:pipeline>
<map:match pattern="content/*.html">
<map:generate src="content/{1}.xml"/>
<map:transform src="transforms/water.xsl"/>
<map:serialize/>
</map:match>
</map:pipeline>
As you can see the pipeline itself is rather benign. I have been walking
through the developerworks tutorial on cocoon2.
-warner
>
> Con
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RE: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Conal Tuohy <co...@paradise.net.nz>.
> > I'm using Sebastian Rahtz's stylesheets: "teixsl-html"
>
> Are these the same stylesheets from TEI's website?
Yes.
> > How are you calling the stylesheets, Warner? Do you pass
> any parameters?
>
> I have setup a pipeline with a match statement, the content
> files (xml) are
> in content and the xsl stylesheets are in transforms. I just
> do a straight
> pass to a custom stylesheet custom.xsl which has the following in it:
> First it imports teihtmll.xsl
> Then it sets up several variables and three parameters.
>
> If you want I can attach and send the file for further examination.
I suggest you should post the pipeline from your sitemap, and your top-level
stylesheet, if that also passes parameters.
What parameters are you passing to to Sebastian's style-sheets?
Con
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
On 4/9/03 8:00 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Warner Onstine wrote:
>
>> I completely misread your response. I thought you said that
>> there were XSL
>> stylesheets on the site (which there aren't).
>>
>> Which stylesheets are you using?
>
> I'm using Sebastian Rahtz's stylesheets: "teixsl-html"
Are these the same stylesheets from TEI's website?
>
> How are you calling the stylesheets, Warner? Do you pass any parameters?
I have setup a pipeline with a match statement, the content files (xml) are
in content and the xsl stylesheets are in transforms. I just do a straight
pass to a custom stylesheet custom.xsl which has the following in it:
First it imports teihtmll.xsl
Then it sets up several variables and three parameters.
If you want I can attach and send the file for further examination.
Thank you for your assistance it is greatly appreciated.
-warner
>
> I remember at one stage I tried to pass parameters to the stylesheets to
> extract portions of the document, but I couldn't get that feature to work.
> In the end I decided not to pass parameters to the stylesheets at all, and
> this worked fine.
>
> Con
>
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RE: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Conal Tuohy <co...@paradise.net.nz>.
Warner Onstine wrote:
> I completely misread your response. I thought you said that
> there were XSL
> stylesheets on the site (which there aren't).
>
> Which stylesheets are you using?
I'm using Sebastian Rahtz's stylesheets: "teixsl-html"
How are you calling the stylesheets, Warner? Do you pass any parameters?
I remember at one stage I tried to pass parameters to the stylesheets to
extract portions of the document, but I couldn't get that feature to work.
In the end I decided not to pass parameters to the stylesheets at all, and
this worked fine.
Con
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
I completely misread your response. I thought you said that there were XSL
stylesheets on the site (which there aren't).
Which stylesheets are you using?
-warner
On 4/6/03 8:47 AM, "Warner Onstine" <sw...@warneronstine.com> wrote:
> Thanks! I'll check these out and see if they fix the problem.
>
> -warner
>
> On 4/5/03 11:37 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> Warner I have used these stylesheets in Cocoon in part of this website:
>> http://www.nzetc.org/
>>
>> AFAIK the xsl:output tag is not a problem - in Cocoon the serialization is
>> controlled by the sitemap (the map:serialize element), so the xsl:output
>> directive in the stylesheets is ignored.
>>
>> I've used them without modification
>>
>> However, I have used other stylesheets to post-process the resulting HTML
>> since they do rather mix concerns; they not only convert TEI to html, they
>> also add navigation links, banners, etc. In a Cocoon environment it's
>> feasible to deal with these concerns as separate steps in a pipeline, so I
>> personally haven't used any of these "non-essential" features of the
>> stylesheets.
>>
>> Con
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:54
>>> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>>> Subject: TEI and cocoon
>>>
>>>
>>> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
>>> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to
>>> convert the
>>> XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the
>>> cocoon wiki
>>> discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon -
>>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
>>>
>>> This tag is extensively used in the TEI stylesheets, so I
>>> wanted to find out
>>> if others had used these stylesheets and modified them or if
>>> they had their
>>> own which work with the TEI Lite DTD.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Warner
>>>
>>>
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Re: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com>.
Thanks! I'll check these out and see if they fix the problem.
-warner
On 4/5/03 11:37 PM, "Conal Tuohy" <co...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Warner I have used these stylesheets in Cocoon in part of this website:
> http://www.nzetc.org/
>
> AFAIK the xsl:output tag is not a problem - in Cocoon the serialization is
> controlled by the sitemap (the map:serialize element), so the xsl:output
> directive in the stylesheets is ignored.
>
> I've used them without modification
>
> However, I have used other stylesheets to post-process the resulting HTML
> since they do rather mix concerns; they not only convert TEI to html, they
> also add navigation links, banners, etc. In a Cocoon environment it's
> feasible to deal with these concerns as separate steps in a pipeline, so I
> personally haven't used any of these "non-essential" features of the
> stylesheets.
>
> Con
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:54
>> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>> Subject: TEI and cocoon
>>
>>
>> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
>> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to
>> convert the
>> XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the
>> cocoon wiki
>> discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon -
>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
>>
>> This tag is extensively used in the TEI stylesheets, so I
>> wanted to find out
>> if others had used these stylesheets and modified them or if
>> they had their
>> own which work with the TEI Lite DTD.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Warner
>>
>>
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RE: TEI and cocoon
Posted by Conal Tuohy <co...@paradise.net.nz>.
Warner I have used these stylesheets in Cocoon in part of this website:
http://www.nzetc.org/
AFAIK the xsl:output tag is not a problem - in Cocoon the serialization is
controlled by the sitemap (the map:serialize element), so the xsl:output
directive in the stylesheets is ignored.
I've used them without modification
However, I have used other stylesheets to post-process the resulting HTML
since they do rather mix concerns; they not only convert TEI to html, they
also add navigation links, banners, etc. In a Cocoon environment it's
feasible to deal with these concerns as separate steps in a pipeline, so I
personally haven't used any of these "non-essential" features of the
stylesheets.
Con
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:54
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: TEI and cocoon
>
>
> I am having some issues using the TEI (http://www.tei-c.org/Lite/)
> stylesheets (http://www.tei-c.org/Stylesheets/teixsl.html) to
> convert the
> XML to HTML. After much searching I found a document on the
> cocoon wiki
> discussing the xsl:output tag and how it cannot be used in cocoon -
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSLT.
>
> This tag is extensively used in the TEI stylesheets, so I
> wanted to find out
> if others had used these stylesheets and modified them or if
> they had their
> own which work with the TEI Lite DTD.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Warner
>
>
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