Not all Jira comments are making it to e-mail

[Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@apache.org>]

Myrna van Lunteren wrote (for DERBY-891):

> I had run derbyall (as I reported) 

I missed that Myrna had said she had run tests, and then I saw that she
did say so in the jira comments of DERBY-891. I think if a comment is
marked in Jira as 'visible to derby developers' rather than visible to
all then no e-mail is sent to the derby-dev list (kind of ironic).  So
I've been missing any comments attached to jira entries if anyone made
them through jira and marked them as only visible to derby developers.

This is an issue as all Derby communication needs to happen on the
mailing lists, adding comments to Jira is ok, as the assumption is the
comment is also sent to the mailing list.

Would this be simply fixed by making the derby-dev alias that jira uses
a member of derby developers?

Dan.

Re: Not all Jira comments are making it to e-mail

["David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>]

I vote for trying #2, along with the request to not selecting "visible 
to derby-developers only"

Andrew McIntyre wrote:
> On 2/2/06, Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>>This is an issue as all Derby communication needs to happen on the
>>mailing lists, adding comments to Jira is ok, as the assumption is the
>>comment is also sent to the mailing list.
>>
>>Would this be simply fixed by making the derby-dev alias that jira uses
>>a member of derby developers?
> 
> 
> So I looked into this and there seems to be three possibilities:
> 
> 1 - Make mails go to the all members of the derby-developers group.
> Downside: individual mails get sent to each person in the
> derby-developers group, and not to the list, so not really a solution
> to the problem in the first paragraph quoted from Dan's mail.
> 
> 2 - Make an account for derby-dev@db.apache.org in JIRA, and add it to
> the derby-developers JIRA group. May have unintended side effects like
> duplicate mails in certain cases.
> 
> 3 - Ask everyone to pretty please don't select 'visible to
> derby-developers only' in JIRA.
> 
> We could try out #2, it would be easy to make the change and revert
> later if it causes problems. Let me know if anyone has any concerns,
> otherwise I'll try it out early next week.
> 
> andrew

Re: Not all Jira comments are making it to e-mail

[Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>]

On 2/2/06, Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> This is an issue as all Derby communication needs to happen on the
> mailing lists, adding comments to Jira is ok, as the assumption is the
> comment is also sent to the mailing list.
>
> Would this be simply fixed by making the derby-dev alias that jira uses
> a member of derby developers?

So I looked into this and there seems to be three possibilities:

1 - Make mails go to the all members of the derby-developers group.
Downside: individual mails get sent to each person in the
derby-developers group, and not to the list, so not really a solution
to the problem in the first paragraph quoted from Dan's mail.

2 - Make an account for derby-dev@db.apache.org in JIRA, and add it to
the derby-developers JIRA group. May have unintended side effects like
duplicate mails in certain cases.

3 - Ask everyone to pretty please don't select 'visible to
derby-developers only' in JIRA.

We could try out #2, it would be easy to make the change and revert
later if it causes problems. Let me know if anyone has any concerns,
otherwise I'll try it out early next week.

andrew

Re: Not all Jira comments are making it to e-mail

[Myrna van Lunteren <m....@gmail.com>]

On 2/2/06, Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Myrna van Lunteren wrote (for DERBY-891):
>
> > I had run derbyall (as I reported)
>
> I missed that Myrna had said she had run tests, and then I saw that she
> did say so in the jira comments of DERBY-891. I think if a comment is
> marked in Jira as 'visible to derby developers' rather than visible to
> all then no e-mail is sent to the derby-dev list (kind of ironic).  So
> I've been missing any comments attached to jira entries if anyone made
> them through jira and marked them as only visible to derby developers.
>
> This is an issue as all Derby communication needs to happen on the
> mailing lists, adding comments to Jira is ok, as the assumption is the
> comment is also sent to the mailing list.
>
> Would this be simply fixed by making the derby-dev alias that jira uses
> a member of derby developers?
>
> Dan.


Aha, that's why people didn't always see my comments.
:-)

What is the advised procedure?
Who gets the mail with 'all users'?
Who gets the mail when you get jira-users?
And with derby-developers?
Did I miss a document that describes this? (I did a quick search but
couldn't find anything useful to me).

Myrna