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Posted to dev@hop.apache.org by Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> on 2020/09/26 17:02:59 UTC
[DISCUSS] Starting incubation
We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project under way.
I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at Apache.
This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread. Introduce yourself, ask questions!
There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand, but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things right already.
Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600 and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like China/India/Australia.
Let me know about the call, but also post any other questions/observations you may have.
Julian
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Merton Thompson <me...@neotechnology.com.INVALID>.
+ Merton for a Zoom call
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:05 AM, Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr> wrote:
>
> +1 for a Zoom call.
>
> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
>> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
>> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you have to know where to look...
>> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we know where we are and what's coming up.
>>
>> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
>> Hans
>>> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>>>
>>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project under way.
>>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at Apache.
>>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
>>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
>>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread. Introduce yourself, ask questions!
>>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand, but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things right already.
>>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600 and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like China/India/Australia.
>>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other questions/observations you may have.
>>> Julian
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Bart Maertens <ba...@know.bi>.
Hi Hop Community,
Here's a quick recap of the call we had yesterday.
Attendees (alphabetical order, last name):
- Matt Casters
- Julian Hyde
- Bart Maertens
- Maximilian Michels
- Merton Thompson
- Hans Van Akelyen
We mainly walked through the slides
<https://s.apache.org/hop-incubation-kickoff> Julian prepared about what
the incubation process will mean for Hop.
Some topics we discussed in detail:
- community over code:
- the incubation process is more about building a community than it
is about writing code.
- the Hop project team is encouraged to grow the Hop community,
increase the number of committers and PMC members
- the ASF encourages communication and discussion to take place on
the mailing lists as much as possible to make all communication as
inclusive as possible
- all decisions are taken through votes on the mail lists to make the
process as inclusive as possible
- releases are a sacred ritual:
- releases are a tool to help build the Hop community
- releases are a legal rather than a technical process
- the first release in the ASF Incubator usually takes about twice as
long as the project team expects
- graduating to a TLP (Top Level Project) typically takes one year.
Some projects graduate faster, some take longer, some don't graduate. The
Hop project team aims to be in the first category.
We can have a second edition of this call if there are people who would
have liked to join but couldn't attend.
Many thanks to Julian for taking the time to prepare and walk us through
the incubation process!
Regards,
Bart
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:40 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm think I have a problem with my calendar timezone...I'm in France and
> my calendar set the meet now at 2230 :(
>
> I'm really sorry for missing this...
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 28/09/2020 à 18:15, Julian Hyde a écrit :
> > Let’s meet on Thursday, 1830 UTC.
> >
> > Date and time:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1
> <
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1>
>
> >
> > Google meet: meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf <
> http://meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf>
> >
> > If you are not able to attend this session, let us know, and we can
> arrange another meeting (perhaps at a different time of day, to accommodate
> people’s time zones).
> >
> > I’ll make a few slides, and I’ll ask someone to take notes and post them
> to this list.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 28, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Julian,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the initiative. A zoom call is a good way to get us all on
> the same page. I'd suggest to publish the notes from the meeting to this
> list though, for transparency.
> >>
> >> Wednesday 18:00 UTC would work for me.
> >> Thursday 18:15 UTC would also work for me.
> >>
> >> No need to block this on me though, if we have other mentors present.
> >>
> >> -Max
> >>
> >> On 28.09.20 14:07, Matt Casters wrote:
> >>> +1 on the zoom call. Wed/Thu evening are fine by me as well.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Matt
> >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:05 AM Francois Papon <
> francois.papon@openobject.fr>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> +1 for a Zoom call.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> François
> >>>> fpapon@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
> >>>>> Hi Julian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really
> >>>> appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
> >>>>> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but
> you
> >>>> have to know where to look...
> >>>>> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea,
> so we
> >>>> know where we are and what's coming up.
> >>>>> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
> >>>>> Hans
> >>>>> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC
> >>>> vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
> >>>>>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project
> >>>> under way.
> >>>>>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been
> >>>> through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things
> work at
> >>>> Apache.
> >>>>>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask
> any
> >>>> questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at
> >>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
> >>>>>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive
> because
> >>>> it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English
> is
> >>>> not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
> >>>>>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community
> >>>> first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally
> exist in
> >>>> the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this
> thread.
> >>>> Introduce yourself, ask questions!
> >>>>>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you
> can
> >>>> write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can
> operate as a
> >>>> community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some
> >>>> releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and
> brand,
> >>>> but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many
> things
> >>>> right already.
> >>>>>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial
> committers
> >>>> and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very
> Apache to
> >>>> do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.)
> I’d be
> >>>> happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between
> 1600
> >>>> and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for
> those of
> >>>> you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like
> >>>> China/India/Australia.
> >>>>>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other
> >>>> questions/observations you may have.
> >>>>>> Julian
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by fp...@apache.org.
Hi,
I'm think I have a problem with my calendar timezone...I'm in France and
my calendar set the meet now at 2230 :(
I'm really sorry for missing this...
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 28/09/2020 à 18:15, Julian Hyde a écrit :
> Let’s meet on Thursday, 1830 UTC.
>
> Date and time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1 <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1>
>
> Google meet: meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf <http://meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf>
>
> If you are not able to attend this session, let us know, and we can arrange another meeting (perhaps at a different time of day, to accommodate people’s time zones).
>
> I’ll make a few slides, and I’ll ask someone to take notes and post them to this list.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> Thanks for the initiative. A zoom call is a good way to get us all on the same page. I'd suggest to publish the notes from the meeting to this list though, for transparency.
>>
>> Wednesday 18:00 UTC would work for me.
>> Thursday 18:15 UTC would also work for me.
>>
>> No need to block this on me though, if we have other mentors present.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> On 28.09.20 14:07, Matt Casters wrote:
>>> +1 on the zoom call. Wed/Thu evening are fine by me as well.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Matt
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:05 AM Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>> +1 for a Zoom call.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> François
>>>> fpapon@apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Julian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really
>>>> appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
>>>>> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you
>>>> have to know where to look...
>>>>> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we
>>>> know where we are and what's coming up.
>>>>> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
>>>>> Hans
>>>>> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC
>>>> vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>>>>>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project
>>>> under way.
>>>>>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been
>>>> through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at
>>>> Apache.
>>>>>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any
>>>> questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
>>>>>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because
>>>> it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is
>>>> not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
>>>>>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community
>>>> first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in
>>>> the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread.
>>>> Introduce yourself, ask questions!
>>>>>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can
>>>> write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a
>>>> community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some
>>>> releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand,
>>>> but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things
>>>> right already.
>>>>>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers
>>>> and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to
>>>> do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be
>>>> happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600
>>>> and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of
>>>> you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like
>>>> China/India/Australia.
>>>>>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other
>>>> questions/observations you may have.
>>>>>> Julian
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com>.
Let’s meet on Thursday, 1830 UTC.
Date and time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1 <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Apache+Hop+-+Introduction+to+Incubation&iso=20201001T1130&p1=224&ah=1>
Google meet: meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf <http://meet.google.com/gts-xtbz-rpf>
If you are not able to attend this session, let us know, and we can arrange another meeting (perhaps at a different time of day, to accommodate people’s time zones).
I’ll make a few slides, and I’ll ask someone to take notes and post them to this list.
Julian
> On Sep 28, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Julian,
>
> Thanks for the initiative. A zoom call is a good way to get us all on the same page. I'd suggest to publish the notes from the meeting to this list though, for transparency.
>
> Wednesday 18:00 UTC would work for me.
> Thursday 18:15 UTC would also work for me.
>
> No need to block this on me though, if we have other mentors present.
>
> -Max
>
> On 28.09.20 14:07, Matt Casters wrote:
>> +1 on the zoom call. Wed/Thu evening are fine by me as well.
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:05 AM Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>
>> wrote:
>>> +1 for a Zoom call.
>>>
>>> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> François
>>> fpapon@apache.org
>>>
>>> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
>>>> Hi Julian,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really
>>> appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
>>>> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you
>>> have to know where to look...
>>>> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we
>>> know where we are and what's coming up.
>>>>
>>>> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
>>>> Hans
>>>> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC
>>> vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project
>>> under way.
>>>>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been
>>> through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at
>>> Apache.
>>>>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any
>>> questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at
>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
>>>>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because
>>> it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is
>>> not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
>>>>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community
>>> first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in
>>> the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread.
>>> Introduce yourself, ask questions!
>>>>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can
>>> write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a
>>> community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some
>>> releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand,
>>> but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things
>>> right already.
>>>>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers
>>> and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to
>>> do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be
>>> happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600
>>> and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of
>>> you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like
>>> China/India/Australia.
>>>>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other
>>> questions/observations you may have.
>>>>> Julian
>>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
Hi Julian,
Thanks for the initiative. A zoom call is a good way to get us all on
the same page. I'd suggest to publish the notes from the meeting to this
list though, for transparency.
Wednesday 18:00 UTC would work for me.
Thursday 18:15 UTC would also work for me.
No need to block this on me though, if we have other mentors present.
-Max
On 28.09.20 14:07, Matt Casters wrote:
> +1 on the zoom call. Wed/Thu evening are fine by me as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:05 AM Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for a Zoom call.
>>
>> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> François
>> fpapon@apache.org
>>
>> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
>>> Hi Julian,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really
>> appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
>>> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you
>> have to know where to look...
>>> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we
>> know where we are and what's coming up.
>>>
>>> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
>>> Hans
>>> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC
>> vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>>>>
>>>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project
>> under way.
>>>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been
>> through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at
>> Apache.
>>>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any
>> questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at
>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
>>>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because
>> it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is
>> not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
>>>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community
>> first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in
>> the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread.
>> Introduce yourself, ask questions!
>>>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can
>> write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a
>> community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some
>> releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand,
>> but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things
>> right already.
>>>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers
>> and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to
>> do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be
>> happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600
>> and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of
>> you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like
>> China/India/Australia.
>>>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other
>> questions/observations you may have.
>>>> Julian
>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Matt Casters <ma...@neo4j.com.INVALID>.
+1 on the zoom call. Wed/Thu evening are fine by me as well.
Cheers,
Matt
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:05 AM Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>
wrote:
> +1 for a Zoom call.
>
> I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really
> appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
> > I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you
> have to know where to look...
> > A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we
> know where we are and what's coming up.
> >
> > I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
> > Hans
> > On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC
> vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
> >>
> >> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project
> under way.
> >> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been
> through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at
> Apache.
> >> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any
> questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
> >> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because
> it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is
> not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
> >> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community
> first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in
> the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread.
> Introduce yourself, ask questions!
> >> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can
> write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a
> community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some
> releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand,
> but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things
> right already.
> >> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers
> and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to
> do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be
> happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600
> and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of
> you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like
> China/India/Australia.
> >> Let me know about the call, but also post any other
> questions/observations you may have.
> >> Julian
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Francois Papon <fr...@openobject.fr>.
+1 for a Zoom call.
I'm also available on Wednesday and Thursday.
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 26/09/2020 à 23:04, Hans Van Akelyen a écrit :
> Hi Julian,
>
> Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
> I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you have to know where to look...
> A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we know where we are and what's coming up.
>
> I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
> Hans
> On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>>
>> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project under way.
>> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at Apache.
>> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
>> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
>> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread. Introduce yourself, ask questions!
>> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand, but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things right already.
>> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600 and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like China/India/Australia.
>> Let me know about the call, but also post any other questions/observations you may have.
>> Julian
Re: [DISCUSS] Starting incubation
Posted by Hans Van Akelyen <ha...@gmail.com>.
Hi Julian,
Thank you for your support in this and all other mentors too, really appreciate it! And super excited to get Hop working "The Apache way".
I've been reading up a lot in the documentation Apache provides but you have to know where to look...
A Zoom call to quickly go over all the next steps is a great idea, so we know where we are and what's coming up.
I'm available both Wednesday and Thursday.
Hans
On Sep 26 2020, at 7:02 pm, Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We’ve completed the first two steps of incubation - passed the IPMC vote and created an email list - so let’s get started!
>
> First of all, welcome to Apache! We’re excited to have a new project under way.
> I’m a mentor for Hop. That means I’m an Apache member, I’ve been through this process before, and my job is to teach you how things work at Apache.
> This email is intended as a discussion thread where people can ask any questions they have about Incubation. It will be archived at https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@hop.apache.org.
> Apache does a lot of its business on email. Email is inclusive because it is asynchronous and archived. It is easy to participate if English is not your first language or if you are in a different time zone.
> Apache folks talk about “community over code”. Build the community first, and good code will follow. And Apache communities literally exist in the mailing lists. Please join the community by posting to this thread. Introduce yourself, ask questions!
> There’s a misperception that incubation is about proving that you can write excellent code. It’s actually about proving that you can operate as a community following the Apache Way. Along the way, you’ll make some releases, and also deal with some red tape like clearance of IP and brand, but the main thing is community building. You’re probably doing many things right already.
> Would it be useful to have a Zoom call so that the initial committers and mentors can meet each other and ask questions? (It’s not very Apache to do calls, but I think it’s an efficient way to get things started.) I’d be happy to host a call - maybe Wednesday or Thursday? Something between 1600 and 2000 UTC would me morning for me in California and evening for those of you in Europe. We can have a second call for people in timezones like China/India/Australia.
> Let me know about the call, but also post any other questions/observations you may have.
> Julian