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Posted to dev@taverna.apache.org by Christian Brenninkmeijer <ch...@manchester.ac.uk> on 2015/03/12 11:24:21 UTC
Third level menus
Hi All,
I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl pages.
Such as
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
Three possible options.
1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a scufl2 page is looked at.
See current implementation
2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect pages
3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz
(Note: I have not tested to see if this works on the Apache server yet.
Christian
RE: Third level menus
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <ch...@manchester.ac.uk>.
Hi All,
I have pushed the sidebar to the left (except for small where it is below)
Ian and I have tracked down the large white space below the menu bar and removed that.
Having tested the clickable top level menu items on an ipad I found I could not reach any submenus.
Therefor with regret I have removed that and instead placed a home item as the top of each submenu
Christian
________________________________________
From: Stian Soiland-Reyes [stain@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:37 PM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Third level menus
I think the side-bar is the best solution - magically appearing in the
top can be confusing, and you would have to style it so it's always
selected.
I would have liked also to have something like on:
http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#scrollspy
..that is a menu of anchor-links within larger pages - and then it is
statically positioned so it's on screen, and updates when you scroll
(try scrolling on the above page! The URL field changes from
#scrollspy to where-ever you are)
That makes it easy to make larger pages with a clearer
continue-reading-flow - I'm not saying make one big SCUFL2 page -
although it could be interesting to see if that would work.
On 12 March 2015 at 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<ch...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl pages.
>
> Such as
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
> Three possible options.
>
> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a scufl2 page is looked at.
> See current implementation
>
> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect pages
>
> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz
> (Note: I have not tested to see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
> Christian
>
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Third level menus
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
perhaps one long page with #anchor menu thing would work?
Just imagine the menu worked here:
http://taverna.staging.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/combined
(some broken HTML there.. but nevermind)
On 12 March 2015 at 16:37, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think the side-bar is the best solution - magically appearing in the
> top can be confusing, and you would have to style it so it's always
> selected.
>
> I would have liked also to have something like on:
>
> http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#scrollspy
>
> ..that is a menu of anchor-links within larger pages - and then it is
> statically positioned so it's on screen, and updates when you scroll
> (try scrolling on the above page! The URL field changes from
> #scrollspy to where-ever you are)
>
> That makes it easy to make larger pages with a clearer
> continue-reading-flow - I'm not saying make one big SCUFL2 page -
> although it could be interesting to see if that would work.
>
>
>
> On 12 March 2015 at 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer
> <ch...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl pages.
>>
>> Such as
>> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>>
>> Three possible options.
>>
>> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a scufl2 page is looked at.
>> See current implementation
>>
>> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect pages
>>
>> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
>> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz
>> (Note: I have not tested to see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Third level menus
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
I think the side-bar is the best solution - magically appearing in the
top can be confusing, and you would have to style it so it's always
selected.
I would have liked also to have something like on:
http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#scrollspy
..that is a menu of anchor-links within larger pages - and then it is
statically positioned so it's on screen, and updates when you scroll
(try scrolling on the above page! The URL field changes from
#scrollspy to where-ever you are)
That makes it easy to make larger pages with a clearer
continue-reading-flow - I'm not saying make one big SCUFL2 page -
although it could be interesting to see if that would work.
On 12 March 2015 at 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<ch...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl pages.
>
> Such as
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
> Three possible options.
>
> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a scufl2 page is looked at.
> See current implementation
>
> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect pages
>
> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz
> (Note: I have not tested to see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
> Christian
>
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Third level menus
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
On 12/03/2015 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> Hi All,
> I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl pages.
>
> Such as
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
> Three possible options.
>
> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a scufl2 page is looked at.
> See current implementation
Visitors may not notice the revised menu; it becomes difficult to
describe where a problem is e.g. "when I click on the scufl2 menu... bad
thing happens" -> "what scufl2 menu"
> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect pages
Much nicer.
> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz
> (Note: I have not tested to see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
> Christian
Alan
Re: Third level menus
Posted by "Donal K. Fellows" <do...@manchester.ac.uk>.
On 12/03/2015 13:21, alaninmcr wrote:
> Can the side bar go on the left? It seems odd to me to have it on the
> right.
Websites put this sort of thing on both sides, so users will definitely
not have any sort of expectation. As long as we're consistent within the
site, it doesn't matter which we pick.
Donal.
Re: Third level menus
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
On 12/03/2015 12:20, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> I have added a sidebar as suggested by Ian.
> Which has the advantage that it can also go to a fourth level.
>
> Currently both extra menu item and side bar are implemented.
Can the side bar go on the left? It seems odd to me to have it on the right.
> If I don't hear differently I will assume everyone agrees with Ian and remove the extra menu item early next week.
>
> Christian
Alan
Re: Third level menus
Posted by Ian Dunlop <ia...@manchester.ac.uk>.
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Even my email about typos has a typo!!
Ian
On 12/03/2015 12:59, Ian Dunlop wrote:
> Hello,
>
> That looks much better. BTW I think there is a type on the css
> classes used: col-sd should probably be col-sm
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
> On 12/03/2015 12:20, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
>> I have added a sidebar as suggested by Ian. Which has the
>> advantage that it can also go to a fourth level.
>
>> Currently both extra menu item and side bar are implemented.
>
>> If I don't hear differently I will assume everyone agrees with
>> Ian and remove the extra menu item early next week.
>
>> Christian ________________________________________ From: Ian
>> Dunlop [ian.dunlop@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
>> 2015 10:37 AM To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re:
>> Third level menus
>
>> Hello,
>
>> I think I would prefer a sidebar, magically appearing menus
>> might not be a good idea because users might miss them. Use
>> bootstrap col- classes to split the page. 9 for main, 3 for
>> sidebar might be a good size.
>
>> Cheers,
>
>> Ian
>
>> On 12/03/2015 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
>>> Hi All, I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl
>>> pages.
>
>>> Such as
>>> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
>>> Three possible options.
>
>>> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a
>>> scufl2 page is looked at. See current implementation
>
>>> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level
>>> ect pages
>
>>> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
>>> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz (Note: I have not tested to
>>> see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
>>> Christian
>
>
>
>
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Re: Third level menus
Posted by Ian Dunlop <ia...@manchester.ac.uk>.
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Hello,
That looks much better. BTW I think there is a type on the css classes
used: col-sd should probably be col-sm
Cheers,
Ian
On 12/03/2015 12:20, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> I have added a sidebar as suggested by Ian. Which has the advantage
> that it can also go to a fourth level.
>
> Currently both extra menu item and side bar are implemented.
>
> If I don't hear differently I will assume everyone agrees with Ian
> and remove the extra menu item early next week.
>
> Christian ________________________________________ From: Ian Dunlop
> [ian.dunlop@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:37
> AM To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Third level
> menus
>
> Hello,
>
> I think I would prefer a sidebar, magically appearing menus might
> not be a good idea because users might miss them. Use bootstrap
> col- classes to split the page. 9 for main, 3 for sidebar might be
> a good size.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
> On 12/03/2015 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
>> Hi All, I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl
>> pages.
>
>> Such as
>> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
>> Three possible options.
>
>> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a
>> scufl2 page is looked at. See current implementation
>
>> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect
>> pages
>
>> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
>> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz (Note: I have not tested to
>> see if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
>> Christian
>
>
>
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RE: Third level menus
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <ch...@manchester.ac.uk>.
I have added a sidebar as suggested by Ian.
Which has the advantage that it can also go to a fourth level.
Currently both extra menu item and side bar are implemented.
If I don't hear differently I will assume everyone agrees with Ian and remove the extra menu item early next week.
Christian
________________________________________
From: Ian Dunlop [ian.dunlop@manchester.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:37 AM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Third level menus
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Hello,
I think I would prefer a sidebar, magically appearing menus might not
be a good idea because users might miss them. Use bootstrap col-
classes to split the page. 9 for main, 3 for sidebar might be a good size.
Cheers,
Ian
On 12/03/2015 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> Hi All, I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl
> pages.
>
> Such as
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
> Three possible options.
>
> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a
> scufl2 page is looked at. See current implementation
>
> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect
> pages
>
> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz (Note: I have not tested to see
> if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
> Christian
>
>
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Re: Third level menus
Posted by Ian Dunlop <ia...@manchester.ac.uk>.
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Hello,
I think I would prefer a sidebar, magically appearing menus might not
be a good idea because users might miss them. Use bootstrap col-
classes to split the page. 9 for main, 3 for sidebar might be a good size.
Cheers,
Ian
On 12/03/2015 10:24, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> Hi All, I was wondering how to allow user access to third levl
> pages.
>
> Such as
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/documentation/scufl2/bundle
>
> Three possible options.
>
> 1. Change the nav bar to add a "scufl2" menu if and only is a
> scufl2 page is looked at. See current implementation
>
> 2. Add a side menu bar to Scufl2 pages for these third level ect
> pages
>
> 3. Add extra non standard javascript as shown at:
> http://www.bootply.com/nZaxpxfiXz (Note: I have not tested to see
> if this works on the Apache server yet.
>
> Christian
>
>
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