When will SVN conversion happen?

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
discuss sandbox and some other ideas.

sean

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>]

Grant Smith wrote:

> I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
> I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
>
> For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311) 
> handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.

Make that build 3316. Also, if you are running under Linux, DEFINITELY 
upgrade to JDK 1.5.0.03 (Update 3). It resolves two serious bugs in the 
editor.

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

Great idea.  Maybe we should also update the JIRA issue with a comment
to get it back on the @infra radar screen.  Perhaps we can ask them
for a timetable so we can prepare.

sean


On 4/29/05, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com> wrote:
> It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache
> "Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does
> anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a
> couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have also
> just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.
> 
> Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)
> 
> Manfred Geiler wrote:
> 
> >http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
> >All we can do is sit and wait...
> >-M
> >
> >2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
> >
> >
> >>I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
> >>I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
> >>
> >>For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
> >>handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
> >>
> >>Sean Schofield wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
> >>>this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
> >>>discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
> >>>
> >>>sean
> >>>
> >>>.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>]

OK Folks,

I'm working with them on #asfinfra. They are starting the test 
migration. I'll keep you posted.

One question came up though.. was 'rel_0_4_4' a branch or a tag ? we 
took the branch option because it had been changed, and tags should not 
be changed. Semantics - it shouldnt make too much of a difference to us 
at this point.


Martin Cooper wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
>
>> This doesn't seem to answer the question of how one gets the necessary
>> access to do these things.  Does Grant just ask?  Do we nominate him?
>
>
> Infrastructure works the same way as any other part of the ASF: it's a 
> meritocracy. You start by joining the infrastructure list, which is 
> open to any ASF committer, and, as Ted described, start helping out 
> however you can. Just as with other projects, access comes with merit, 
> and merit grows as you continue to contribute.
>
> As far as getting migrated to SVN, I'd suggest pinging the 
> infrastructure list, either directly or via a comment on the Jira issue.
>
> -- 
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>> sean
>>
>> On 4/29/05, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's what I've been told about getting involved with infrastructure:
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>>> In general, the process of becoming productive here is the same as
>>>> for many open source projects: hang around, figure out what needs
>>>> doing, figure out how to do it, then do it. Answering questions from
>>>> users, filing jira entries and otherwise helping maintain the bug
>>>> database, writing documentation (www.apache.org/dev/) stuff like
>>>> that. Hang out on #asfinfra. You'll probably see lots of places where
>>>> stuff needs doing soon enough :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> On 4/29/05, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache
>>>> "Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does
>>>> anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a
>>>> couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have 
>>>> also
>>>> just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)
>>>>
>>>> Manfred Geiler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
>>>>> All we can do is sit and wait...
>>>>> -M
>>>>>
>>>>> 2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
>>>>>> I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
>>>>>> handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean Schofield wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice 
>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>> this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner 
>>>>>>> we can
>>>>>>> discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> HTH, Ted.
>>>
>>
>
> .
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:

> This doesn't seem to answer the question of how one gets the necessary
> access to do these things.  Does Grant just ask?  Do we nominate him?

Infrastructure works the same way as any other part of the ASF: it's a 
meritocracy. You start by joining the infrastructure list, which is open 
to any ASF committer, and, as Ted described, start helping out however you 
can. Just as with other projects, access comes with merit, and merit grows 
as you continue to contribute.

As far as getting migrated to SVN, I'd suggest pinging the infrastructure 
list, either directly or via a comment on the Jira issue.

--
Martin Cooper


> sean
>
> On 4/29/05, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's what I've been told about getting involved with infrastructure:
>>
>> ----
>>
>>> In general, the process of becoming productive here is the same as
>>> for many open source projects: hang around, figure out what needs
>>> doing, figure out how to do it, then do it. Answering questions from
>>> users, filing jira entries and otherwise helping maintain the bug
>>> database, writing documentation (www.apache.org/dev/) stuff like
>>> that. Hang out on #asfinfra. You'll probably see lots of places where
>>> stuff needs doing soon enough :-D
>>
>> ----
>>
>> On 4/29/05, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com> wrote:
>>> It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache
>>> "Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does
>>> anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a
>>> couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have also
>>> just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.
>>>
>>> Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)
>>>
>>> Manfred Geiler wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
>>>> All we can do is sit and wait...
>>>> -M
>>>>
>>>> 2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
>>>>> I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
>>>>> handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Schofield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
>>>>>> this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
>>>>>> discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> HTH, Ted.
>>
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

This doesn't seem to answer the question of how one gets the necessary
access to do these things.  Does Grant just ask?  Do we nominate him?

sean

On 4/29/05, Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's what I've been told about getting involved with infrastructure:
> 
> ----
> 
> > In general, the process of becoming productive here is the same as
> > for many open source projects: hang around, figure out what needs
> > doing, figure out how to do it, then do it. Answering questions from
> > users, filing jira entries and otherwise helping maintain the bug
> > database, writing documentation (www.apache.org/dev/) stuff like
> > that. Hang out on #asfinfra. You'll probably see lots of places where
> > stuff needs doing soon enough :-D
> 
> ----
> 
> On 4/29/05, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com> wrote:
> > It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache
> > "Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does
> > anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a
> > couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have also
> > just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.
> >
> > Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)
> >
> > Manfred Geiler wrote:
> >
> > >http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
> > >All we can do is sit and wait...
> > >-M
> > >
> > >2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
> > >>I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
> > >>
> > >>For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
> > >>handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
> > >>
> > >>Sean Schofield wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
> > >>>this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
> > >>>discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
> > >>>
> > >>>sean
> > >>>
> > >>>.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> HTH, Ted.
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>]

Here's what I've been told about getting involved with infrastructure: 

----

> In general, the process of becoming productive here is the same as 
> for many open source projects: hang around, figure out what needs 
> doing, figure out how to do it, then do it. Answering questions from 
> users, filing jira entries and otherwise helping maintain the bug 
> database, writing documentation (www.apache.org/dev/) stuff like 
> that. Hang out on #asfinfra. You'll probably see lots of places where 
> stuff needs doing soon enough :-D

----

On 4/29/05, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com> wrote:
> It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache
> "Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does
> anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a
> couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have also
> just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.
> 
> Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)
> 
> Manfred Geiler wrote:
> 
> >http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
> >All we can do is sit and wait...
> >-M
> >
> >2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
> >
> >
> >>I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
> >>I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
> >>
> >>For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
> >>handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
> >>
> >>Sean Schofield wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
> >>>this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
> >>>discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
> >>>
> >>>sean
> >>>
> >>>.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 


-- 
HTH, Ted.

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>]

It would almost be worthwhile for one of us to join the Apache 
"Infrastructure Team". Sounds like they are pretty short staffed. Does 
anyone know how to go about applying ? I would volunteer, having a 
couple of decades of unix system administration experience. I have also 
just recently converted our own internal CVS to SVN.

Maybe Ted could enlighten us how to proceed (as usual, thanks Ted !!)

Manfred Geiler wrote:

>http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
>All we can do is sit and wait...
>-M
>
>2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
>  
>
>>I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
>>I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
>>
>>For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
>>handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
>>
>>Sean Schofield wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
>>>this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
>>>discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
>>>
>>>sean
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>    
>>
>
>.
>
>  
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>]

Manfred Geiler wrote:

>http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
>All we can do is sit and wait...
>-M
>  
>
I commented on the JIRA, asking how long it would take, and if there was 
anything we could do to help. I also voted for the issue. I would 
recommend that as many of us vote for it as possible on
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311.

I'm also sitting in the #asfinfra IRC channel...

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com>]

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-311
All we can do is sit and wait...
-M

2005/4/29, Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>:
> I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
> I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?
> 
> For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311)
> handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.
> 
> Sean Schofield wrote:
> 
> >When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
> >this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
> >discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
> >
> >sean
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

Re: When will SVN conversion happen?

[Grant Smith <gr...@marathon-man.com>]

I second the motion to get this done as soon as possible.
I guess we'll need a code freeze while the conversion takes place ?

For those of you using Intellij IDEA, the latest EAP build (3311) 
handles Subversion perfectly and also runs under JDK 1.5.0_02.

Sean Schofield wrote:

>When are we thinking about the SVN conversion?  It might be nice to do
>this some weekend soon.  The sooner we get that done the sooner we can
>discuss sandbox and some other ideas.
>
>sean
>
>.
>
>  
>