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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2020/09/17 16:02:35 UTC
Re: The Problem about GSoC 2020
Hello All,
I have added small "Currently happening" section to [1] to ensure mentors
can pull this page not to miss important information
I'll try to update it with all important info next year
I hope next year we will not have such communication issues
[1] https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 07:48, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Xiangdong Huang,
>
> there was no issues with mentors@ ML in previous years
> We had some reports about this particular mailing-list:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20205
> But I was sure it is rare cases
>
> This definitely need to be investigated and improved
>
> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 07:32, Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I checked my mailbox, and find that I have subscribed that on Feb 25th
>> and sent a confirmation email after receiving response from "mentors-help@
>> ".
>> But, I did not receive any mail (so I subscribed failed).
>>
>> I think it is because only mentors (maybe IPMC, or TLP PMC, I think) can
>> subscribe to it...
>>
>> Best,
>> -----------------------------------
>> Xiangdong Huang
>>
>>
>>
>> Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> 于2020年5月7日周四 上午6:43写道：
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Here is quote from program announcement [1]
>>> "If you aren’t already subscribed to
>>> mentors@community.apache.org you should do so now else
>>> you might miss important information."
>>>
>>> All important information is posted to mentors@ mailing-list
>>> It seems this year mentors of 2 projects were not subscribed
>>> they miss this AR item [2] and the scoring wasn't completed
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you see how this can be improved
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rddeaf51e080a718438791c4fa1d370ede90a8f72e9e1d6b55fd2dc43%40%3Cmentors.community.apache.org%3E
>>> [2]
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r12d7648750025966da767b64e6d3431cfda3dfecf7af179a676215e0%40%3Cmentors.community.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 02:59, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. And considering I assist with GSOC and with IoTDB, it's a
>>>> failing of mine. I thought that all the pmcs had been contacted
>>>> including IPMCs.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I will work to improve it next year!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> KAM
>>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2020 3:36 PM, Xiangdong Huang wrote:
>>>> > Hi Sally and Maxim,
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd like to share my experience and hope it can help us to improve the
>>>> > process (or.. maybe the instruction).
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> > -----------------------------------
>>>> > Xiangdong Huang
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 于2020年5月7日周四 上午3:24写道：
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thank you, Xiangdong.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please follow up with the ASF GSoC lead regarding your specific
>>>> experience
>>>> >> to see what can be done, if anything, at this time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>> >> Sally
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - - -
>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 15:17, Xiangdong Huang wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Sally,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Unfortunately, we did not receive the anticipated response from the
>>>> >> RocketMQ and IoTDB mentors before the deadline, and so the
>>>> opportunity to
>>>> >> participate wasn’t possible this year.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I come from IoTDB community (and actually I propose some tasks about
>>>> IoTDB
>>>> >> for GSoC2020 and they can be found on GSoc 2020 Ideas list).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I know several persons leaving proposals under the issues but then I
>>>> did
>>>> >> not receive any formal emails (from Google or some other formal
>>>> >> organizations) from Apri to now...
>>>> >> Maybe it is because IoTDB is just an incubating project and I have no
>>>> >> suitable permissions for mentoring that...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I do not know why RocketMQ community did not have responses as they
>>>> are
>>>> >> TLP and it seems the idea presenters are IPMC (who can be mentors I
>>>> >> think..), like @vongosling@apache.org <vo...@apache.org> .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best,
>>>> >> -----------------------------------
>>>> >> Xiangdong Huang
>>>> >> Apache IoTDB incubating PPMC
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 于2020年5月6日周三 下午11:44写道：
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello ComDev-ers --per below, we've had a query on GSoC.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I responded to Jack in coordination with Maxim Solodovnik, who is
>>>> this
>>>> >> year's GSoC lead.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please let me know if there's a dedicated mailing list or additional
>>>> >> emails that I should be sharing this with.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>> >> Sally
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - - -
>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original message -----
>>>> >> From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>>>> >> To: Jack Tsai <ja...@outlook.com>, ASF Marketing & Publicity <
>>>> >> press@apache.org>, ASF Secretary <se...@apache.org>, Apache
>>>> Security
>>>> >> Team <se...@apache.org>, "webmaster@apache.org" <
>>>> webmaster@apache.org>,
>>>> >> "apache@apache.org" <ap...@apache.org>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: The Problem about GSoC 2020
>>>> >> Date: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 11:20
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello Jack --thank you for your message.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Unfortunately, we did not receive the anticipated response from the
>>>> >> RocketMQ and IoTDB mentors before the deadline, and so the
>>>> opportunity to
>>>> >> participate wasn’t possible this year.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This was an unfortunate situation. As contributors to Apache
>>>> projects are
>>>> >> all volunteers, at times individuals are not able to follow through
>>>> on some
>>>> >> activities as anticipated.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We are aiming to improve our communication processes regarding GSoC,
>>>> and
>>>> >> appreciate your patience. We also hope that you will be able to
>>>> apply for
>>>> >> future editions of GSoC with the ASF.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you in advance for your understanding!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>> >> Sally
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - - -
>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 05:45, Jack Tsai wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi sir,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I was the student and a committer who had applied to GSoC 2020, who
>>>> also
>>>> >> the one selecting the Apache RocketMQ as the topic. I have seen the
>>>> result
>>>> >> now and got a bit confused.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I was wondering why the projects RocketMQ and IoTDB which had
>>>> proposed
>>>> >> such a large amount of ideas but did not get even one slot for this
>>>> >> program. I had started to follow every project’s mailing lists which
>>>> >> announced to participate GSoC from the beginning of February.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I had viewed almost every proposal which had publicly sent to each
>>>> >> community for reviewing, which there did have some really great and
>>>> >> detailed (comparing structure, implementation plan, development
>>>> details to
>>>> >> others) proposals sent to RocketMQ and IoTDB mailing lists. I cannot
>>>> think
>>>> >> of a reason why there is not even a slot for those two communities
>>>> this
>>>> >> year.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Although I shouldn’t say those words as a participant who did not
>>>> get
>>>> >> selected, but I still want to know if there is a reason of the
>>>> result.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I have sent to multiple email address for nontechnical issue, if
>>>> some of
>>>> >> you have seen this, please forward to the one in charge. Appreciate
>>>> it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>> Jack Tsai
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> --
>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
--
Best regards,
Maxim
Re: The Problem about GSoC 2020
Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Maxim,
That's nice! Thanks for your effort.
Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University
Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> 于2020年9月18日周五 上午12:02写道：
> Hello All,
>
> I have added small "Currently happening" section to [1] to ensure mentors
> can pull this page not to miss important information
> I'll try to update it with all important info next year
>
> I hope next year we will not have such communication issues
>
> [1] https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
>
> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 07:48, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Xiangdong Huang,
>>
>> there was no issues with mentors@ ML in previous years
>> We had some reports about this particular mailing-list:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20205
>> But I was sure it is rare cases
>>
>> This definitely need to be investigated and improved
>>
>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 07:32, Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> I checked my mailbox, and find that I have subscribed that on Feb 25th
>>> and sent a confirmation email after receiving response from "mentors-help@
>>> ".
>>> But, I did not receive any mail (so I subscribed failed).
>>>
>>> I think it is because only mentors (maybe IPMC, or TLP PMC, I think) can
>>> subscribe to it...
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Xiangdong Huang
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> 于2020年5月7日周四 上午6:43写道：
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Here is quote from program announcement [1]
>>>> "If you aren’t already subscribed to
>>>> mentors@community.apache.org you should do so now else
>>>> you might miss important information."
>>>>
>>>> All important information is posted to mentors@ mailing-list
>>>> It seems this year mentors of 2 projects were not subscribed
>>>> they miss this AR item [2] and the scoring wasn't completed
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you see how this can be improved
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rddeaf51e080a718438791c4fa1d370ede90a8f72e9e1d6b55fd2dc43%40%3Cmentors.community.apache.org%3E
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r12d7648750025966da767b64e6d3431cfda3dfecf7af179a676215e0%40%3Cmentors.community.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 02:59, Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. And considering I assist with GSOC and with IoTDB, it's a
>>>>> failing of mine. I thought that all the pmcs had been contacted
>>>>> including IPMCs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I will work to improve it next year!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> KAM
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/6/2020 3:36 PM, Xiangdong Huang wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Sally and Maxim,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'd like to share my experience and hope it can help us to improve
>>>>> the
>>>>> > process (or.. maybe the instruction).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best,
>>>>> > -----------------------------------
>>>>> > Xiangdong Huang
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 于2020年5月7日周四 上午3:24写道：
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Thank you, Xiangdong.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Please follow up with the ASF GSoC lead regarding your specific
>>>>> experience
>>>>> >> to see what can be done, if anything, at this time.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>>> >> Sally
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> - - -
>>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 15:17, Xiangdong Huang wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi Sally,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Unfortunately, we did not receive the anticipated response from the
>>>>> >> RocketMQ and IoTDB mentors before the deadline, and so the
>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>> >> participate wasn’t possible this year.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I come from IoTDB community (and actually I propose some tasks
>>>>> about IoTDB
>>>>> >> for GSoC2020 and they can be found on GSoc 2020 Ideas list).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I know several persons leaving proposals under the issues but then
>>>>> I did
>>>>> >> not receive any formal emails (from Google or some other formal
>>>>> >> organizations) from Apri to now...
>>>>> >> Maybe it is because IoTDB is just an incubating project and I have
>>>>> no
>>>>> >> suitable permissions for mentoring that...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I do not know why RocketMQ community did not have responses as they
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> TLP and it seems the idea presenters are IPMC (who can be mentors I
>>>>> >> think..), like @vongosling@apache.org <vo...@apache.org> .
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best,
>>>>> >> -----------------------------------
>>>>> >> Xiangdong Huang
>>>>> >> Apache IoTDB incubating PPMC
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 于2020年5月6日周三 下午11:44写道：
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hello ComDev-ers --per below, we've had a query on GSoC.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I responded to Jack in coordination with Maxim Solodovnik, who is
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> year's GSoC lead.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Please let me know if there's a dedicated mailing list or additional
>>>>> >> emails that I should be sharing this with.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>>> >> Sally
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> - - -
>>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ----- Original message -----
>>>>> >> From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>>>>> >> To: Jack Tsai <ja...@outlook.com>, ASF Marketing & Publicity <
>>>>> >> press@apache.org>, ASF Secretary <se...@apache.org>, Apache
>>>>> Security
>>>>> >> Team <se...@apache.org>, "webmaster@apache.org" <
>>>>> webmaster@apache.org>,
>>>>> >> "apache@apache.org" <ap...@apache.org>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: The Problem about GSoC 2020
>>>>> >> Date: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 11:20
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hello Jack --thank you for your message.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Unfortunately, we did not receive the anticipated response from the
>>>>> >> RocketMQ and IoTDB mentors before the deadline, and so the
>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>> >> participate wasn’t possible this year.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This was an unfortunate situation. As contributors to Apache
>>>>> projects are
>>>>> >> all volunteers, at times individuals are not able to follow through
>>>>> on some
>>>>> >> activities as anticipated.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> We are aiming to improve our communication processes regarding
>>>>> GSoC, and
>>>>> >> appreciate your patience. We also hope that you will be able to
>>>>> apply for
>>>>> >> future editions of GSoC with the ASF.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thank you in advance for your understanding!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>>> >> Sally
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> - - -
>>>>> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>>> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>>>>> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | sk@apache.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 05:45, Jack Tsai wrote:
>>>>> >>> Hi sir,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I was the student and a committer who had applied to GSoC 2020,
>>>>> who also
>>>>> >> the one selecting the Apache RocketMQ as the topic. I have seen the
>>>>> result
>>>>> >> now and got a bit confused.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I was wondering why the projects RocketMQ and IoTDB which had
>>>>> proposed
>>>>> >> such a large amount of ideas but did not get even one slot for this
>>>>> >> program. I had started to follow every project’s mailing lists which
>>>>> >> announced to participate GSoC from the beginning of February.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I had viewed almost every proposal which had publicly sent to each
>>>>> >> community for reviewing, which there did have some really great and
>>>>> >> detailed (comparing structure, implementation plan, development
>>>>> details to
>>>>> >> others) proposals sent to RocketMQ and IoTDB mailing lists. I
>>>>> cannot think
>>>>> >> of a reason why there is not even a slot for those two communities
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> year.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Although I shouldn’t say those words as a participant who did not
>>>>> get
>>>>> >> selected, but I still want to know if there is a reason of the
>>>>> result.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I have sent to multiple email address for nontechnical issue, if
>>>>> some of
>>>>> >> you have seen this, please forward to the one in charge. Appreciate
>>>>> it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>> Jack Tsai
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>