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Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

At 15:14 20/01/2013 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>While we're at it:  The other thing WP can do (Ctrl-W) is insert all 
>sorts of characters that are not on the keyboard, and many are not 
>attainable by the Compose key either. I think there are 10 screens 
>worth of characters and symbols, each one having some 40 or so 
>available.  At some point, MS Word actually copied this verbatim, 
>Ctrl-W and all, but then they took it out--maybe the WP people sued 
>them. That must have been about 1990.  So I don't know if OO can put 
>that feature in, or if WP would sue them. But it sure is handy sometimes.

Do you mean like Insert | Special Character...?  If you like keyboard 
shortcuts, it's Alt+I, P.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

Posted by Eric Fenster <er...@yahoo.com>.
> For certain cases where I use some symbols repeatedly, I make up a document that serves as a palette that I can copy and paste 

It would be nice to have a palette from which one could drag and drop characters.It would be faster when including words/phrases from other languages, for example.

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Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

Posted by Johnny Rosenberg <gu...@gmail.com>.
2013/1/21 Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>:
> On Windows,

and all other operating systems,

there is also a Character Map utility in Accessories > System Tools
that lets you look through the various fonts for characters you want
and put them on the clip-board for pasting into your document.  I have
it pinned to the Windows XP/7 Start Menu. (I must remember to put it
on the Task Bar on Windows 8).
>
> Some fonts have quite extensive sets of Unicode Characters, including Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode (a favorite for me) along with special fonts (WebDings, WingDings, Symbol, MT Extra, ...), along with the free fonts that LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice install.
>
> For certain cases where I use some symbols repeatedly, I make up a document that serves as a palette that I can copy and paste from.  Sometime I group 3-4 symbols together (such as ¬∀∃∧∨→↔), paste wherever I need one of them and delete the unwanted ones.  It can be easier than roaming around in an Insertion palette.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug [mailto:dmcgarrett@optonline.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 23:25
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]
>
> On 01/21/2013 01:28 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 15:14 20/01/2013 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>>> While we're at it:  The other thing WP can do (Ctrl-W) is insert all
>>> sorts of characters that are not on the keyboard, and many are not
>>> attainable by the Compose key either. I think there are 10 screens
>>> worth of characters and symbols, each one having some 40 or so
>>> available.  At some point, MS Word actually copied this verbatim,
>>> Ctrl-W and all, but then they took it out--maybe the WP people sued
>>> them. That must have been about 1990.  So I don't know if OO can put
>>> that feature in, or if WP would sue them. But it sure is handy
>>> sometimes.
>>
>> Do you mean like Insert | Special Character...?  If you like keyboard
>> shortcuts, it's Alt+I, P.
>>
>> I trust this helps.
>>
>> Brian Barker
>>
> Very good, Brian.  I didn't know that this was there. I'm not sure if
> it's as complete as the WP version, but it's close, if it's not equal.
>
> --doug
>
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Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:
> On Windows, there is also a Character Map utility in Accessories >
> System Tools that lets you look through the various fonts for
> characters you want and put them on the clip-board for pasting into
> your document.  I have it pinned to the Windows XP/7 Start Menu. (I
> must remember to put it on the Task Bar on Windows 8).
>
> Some fonts have quite extensive sets of Unicode Characters, including
> Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode (a favorite for me) along with
> special fonts (WebDings, WingDings, Symbol, MT Extra, ...), along
> with the free fonts that LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice install.

For technical writing install the STIX-fonts from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/stixfonts/

>
> For certain cases where I use some symbols repeatedly, I make up a
> document that serves as a palette that I can copy and paste from.
> Sometime I group 3-4 symbols together (such as ¬∀∃∧∨→↔), paste
> wherever I need one of them and delete the unwanted ones.  It can be
> easier than roaming around in an Insertion palette.

Or you define macros for inserting special characters, and use them as 
commands for an own toolbar. Use the character itself as text on the button.

The example inserts a character œ
153 (see below) is its unicode codepoint in hexadecimal. You see this 
value in the dialog "Special character".

Sub OELigaturKlein
Dim doc as variant
Dim controller as variant
Dim textviewcursor as variant
doc = ThisComponent
controller = doc.getCurrentController()
textviewcursor = controller.getViewCursor()
Dim character as String
character = chr(clng("&H153"))
textviewcursor.setString(character)
textviewcursor.goRight(1, false)
End Sub



Kind regards
Regina


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RE: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
On Windows, there is also a Character Map utility in Accessories > System Tools that lets you look through the various fonts for characters you want and put them on the clip-board for pasting into your document.  I have it pinned to the Windows XP/7 Start Menu. (I must remember to put it on the Task Bar on Windows 8).

Some fonts have quite extensive sets of Unicode Characters, including Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode (a favorite for me) along with special fonts (WebDings, WingDings, Symbol, MT Extra, ...), along with the free fonts that LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice install.

For certain cases where I use some symbols repeatedly, I make up a document that serves as a palette that I can copy and paste from.  Sometime I group 3-4 symbols together (such as ¬∀∃∧∨→↔), paste wherever I need one of them and delete the unwanted ones.  It can be easier than roaming around in an Insertion palette.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug [mailto:dmcgarrett@optonline.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 23:25
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

On 01/21/2013 01:28 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:14 20/01/2013 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>> While we're at it:  The other thing WP can do (Ctrl-W) is insert all 
>> sorts of characters that are not on the keyboard, and many are not 
>> attainable by the Compose key either. I think there are 10 screens 
>> worth of characters and symbols, each one having some 40 or so 
>> available.  At some point, MS Word actually copied this verbatim, 
>> Ctrl-W and all, but then they took it out--maybe the WP people sued 
>> them. That must have been about 1990.  So I don't know if OO can put 
>> that feature in, or if WP would sue them. But it sure is handy 
>> sometimes.
>
> Do you mean like Insert | Special Character...?  If you like keyboard 
> shortcuts, it's Alt+I, P.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
Very good, Brian.  I didn't know that this was there. I'm not sure if 
it's as complete as the WP version, but it's close, if it's not equal.

--doug

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Re: [Inserting special characters (and Word Perfect)]

Posted by Doug <dm...@optonline.net>.
On 01/21/2013 01:28 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:14 20/01/2013 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>> While we're at it:  The other thing WP can do (Ctrl-W) is insert all 
>> sorts of characters that are not on the keyboard, and many are not 
>> attainable by the Compose key either. I think there are 10 screens 
>> worth of characters and symbols, each one having some 40 or so 
>> available.  At some point, MS Word actually copied this verbatim, 
>> Ctrl-W and all, but then they took it out--maybe the WP people sued 
>> them. That must have been about 1990.  So I don't know if OO can put 
>> that feature in, or if WP would sue them. But it sure is handy 
>> sometimes.
>
> Do you mean like Insert | Special Character...?  If you like keyboard 
> shortcuts, it's Alt+I, P.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
Very good, Brian.  I didn't know that this was there. I'm not sure if 
it's as complete as the WP version, but it's close, if it's not equal.

--doug

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