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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> on 2019/04/16 19:21:49 UTC
DTDs and XSDs
Hi,
(As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or XSDs
to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the recent
change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some of)
these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories under
(www.)netbeans.org.
One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
server. So:
https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
still appears to work OK, while:
https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
does not.
I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done. Would a
redirect from:
https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
to:
https://netbeans.org/dtds/
work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/".) After we
(re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for netbeans.org as
well?
Thanks,
Jan
Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 21:35, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
I've been very out of the loop over the last couple of months because
of other work. But was the redirect done in the way we had originally
been suggested to, with any missing resources proxying back to the
Oracle server? If so, trying to work out why this didn't work.
Although the redirection issue looks like a different approach was
taken?
I noticed this because I've finally found some time to update
PraxisLIVE to NB11 and just got hit by the dtd issue! :-)
Best wishes,
Neil
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How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by arsi <ar...@chello.sk>.
Hi,
I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and Groovy
features are disabled.
I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
project implementation.
I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
Arsi
NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by arsi <ar...@chello.sk>.
Hi,
And another mystery..
On a fresh installation, when I open Android project as first.
Dynamic nodes are not updated (E.g. ChildFactory) but all methods are
called refresh(false) -> createKeys(..) -> createNodeForKey(..)
If I open a second Android project in it it already works or if I first
open a Java project.
After restarting ANB everything works..
BTW.: Java SE is activated via OpenIDE-Module-Requires:
cnb.org.netbeans.modules.java.j2seproject if someone needed it.
Arsi
NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
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*From:* Arsi <ar...@chello.sk>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 4:02PM
*To:* Dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
*Subject:* Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
> Hi,
>
> Thank you very much, it works..
>
> Arsi
>
> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 3:43PM
> *To:* Dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
>
>> I think this is the line you are searching for:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1191/files
>>
>> On 4/18/19 4:43 AM, arsi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and
>>> Groovy features are disabled.
>>> I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
>>> project implementation.
>>> I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
>>> NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
>>>
>>> Arsi
>>>
>>> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by arsi <ar...@chello.sk>.
Hi,
Thank you very much, it works..
Arsi
NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
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*From:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 3:43PM
*To:* Dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
*Subject:* Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
> I think this is the line you are searching for:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1191/files
>
> On 4/18/19 4:43 AM, arsi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and
>> Groovy features are disabled.
>> I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
>> project implementation.
>> I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
>>
>>
>> This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
>> NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
>>
>> Arsi
>>
>> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
>>
>>
>
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Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
I think this is the line you are searching for:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1191/files
On 4/18/19 4:43 AM, arsi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and
> Groovy features are disabled.
> I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
> project implementation.
> I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
>
>
> This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
> NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
>
> Arsi
>
> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
>
>
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Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Here’s the PR:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/351
Gj
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 09:06, Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Suspect this is a follow on task after the work is ready but the readme
> mentions Gradle generating bad links in tmp folders.
>
> I believe in recent 11 defect updates that may have been resolved. I’d
> have to see what the Netbeans defect was but just thought I’d mention it.
>
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
> > On April 18, 2019 at 6:43:16 AM CDT, arsi <ar...@chello.sk> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and Groovy
> > features are disabled.
> > I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
> > project implementation.
> > I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
> >
> >
> > This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
> > NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
> >
> > Arsi
> >
> > NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
> >
>
Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
Suspect this is a follow on task after the work is ready but the readme mentions Gradle generating bad links in tmp folders.
I believe in recent 11 defect updates that may have been resolved. I’d have to see what the Netbeans defect was but just thought I’d mention it.
Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On April 18, 2019 at 6:43:16 AM CDT, arsi <ar...@chello.sk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and Groovy
> features are disabled.
> I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
> project implementation.
> I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
>
>
> This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
> NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
>
> Arsi
>
> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
>
Re: How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Well, you could assume that someone wanting to use Android would have Java
and Groovy enabled already.
Or take a look at how Laszlo’s Gradle support enables Groovy, in Apache
NetBeans GitHub.
Thanks, looking forward to trying your work out. :-)
Gj
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 07:43, arsi <ar...@chello.sk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and Groovy
> features are disabled.
> I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
> project implementation.
> I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
>
>
> This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
> NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
>
> Arsi
>
> NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
>
>
How to correctly request activation of Feature from plugin
Posted by arsi <ar...@chello.sk>.
Hi,
I need help, in fresh installation of Apache Netbeans Java SE and Groovy
features are disabled.
I can't figure out how to correctly request their activation from my
project implementation.
I need to activate full Java support and Groovy EditorKit.
This is the last thing that I need to solve and first release of
NBANDROID-V2 for Apache Netbeans will be done..
Arsi
NBANDROID-V2 <https://github.com/NBANDROIDTEAM/NBANDROID-V2>
Re: Repository incubator-Netbeans
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Yes, many things need to be done still.
Gj
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 15:59, Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Was just noticing something as I looked at the GitHub repository that it
> named
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Should this also be changed at some point to remove the incubator- as well?
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans)
>
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
>
Repository incubator-Netbeans
Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
Was just noticing something as I looked at the GitHub repository that it named
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
Should this also be changed at some point to remove the incubator- as well?
https://github.com/apache/netbeans (https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans)
Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 8:40 PM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I see, so you mean that http://netbeans.apache.org is redirecting to
> https://netbeans.apache.org (i.e. http to httpS protocol), right?
>
>
Mostly, yes, but just with netbeans.org currently. See, for example, the
systemID of the DTD used here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/0f2e98d513deaedccef831ee9cfc08d09f3650b6/ide/languages.manifest/src/org/netbeans/modules/languages/manifest/DefaultPreferences.xml
it is:
http://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorPreferences-1_0.dtd
And doing wget http://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorPreferences-1_0.dtd
currently shows (for me) a redirect to:
http://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorPreferences-1_0.dtd
and then to:
https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorPreferences-1_0.dtd
And IIRC java.net.URL won't follow the redirect from http to https, which
would explain why the online resolution fails.
> AFAIK all ASF servers will do that redirection, from plain http to
> https, so it's probably a good idea to have the DTDs in-place.
>
> Another option would be to add _all_ DTDs to a well-known directory in
> our build structure, and use the existing catalog.xml file there to
> resolve them for all modules.
>
Not sure I understand here. The DTDs are (hopefully all) in the repository.
For example:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/0f2e98d513deaedccef831ee9cfc08d09f3650b6/ide/editor.settings.lib/src/org/netbeans/modules/editor/settings/storage/preferences/EditorPreferences-1_0.dtd
They are even (hopefully) registered in the respective XML layers. The
reason why the system IDs are used instead of using the local copies is
that many tests run without module system, so they don't see the
registration. (Which, frankly, should be solveable as well, if one would
try hard enough.)
Jan
>
> BTW, DTDs uploaded to the website have already an APLv2 license.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
>
> El 20/04/2019 a las 19:07, Jan Lahoda escribió:
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:26 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/352
> >
> >
> > Thanks Antonio!
> >
> > Unfortunately, it seems this didn't help with the (java.completion)
> tests.
> > (Part of the issue might be that, AFAIK, java.net.URL does not redirect
> > across protocols.) I've sumitted a PR that is changing the
> java.completion
> > tests to use the local copies of the DTDs instead of trying to download
> > them:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1206
> >
> > Comments are welcome, but I'd like to merge that soon.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >>
> >> El 18/04/2019 a las 6:47, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:
> >>> FYI: reported as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2429
> >>> -jt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> st 17. 4. 2019 v 17:13 odesílatel Wade Chandler <
> wadechandler@apache.org
> >>>
> >>> napsal:
> >>>
> >>>> This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup
> >> for
> >>>> it too; in case anything in there helps:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> >>>> <
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing
> those
> >>>> was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the
> >> site
> >>>> previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either
> >> way
> >>>> seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is
> >>>> still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wade
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> dtds here too
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> >>>> <
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wade
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files
> >> there;
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> >>>> <
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wade
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <mailto:
> >>>> antonio@vieiro.net>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> >>>> <
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Antonio
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> >>>>>> Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> >>>>>> expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a
> day
> >>>> or so
> >>>>>> and it will be OK again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this
> one,
> >>>> we
> >>>>>> can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <mailto:
> >>>> lahoda@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs
> or
> >>>> XSDs
> >>>>>>> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not
> >> only
> >>>>>>> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
> >>>> recent
> >>>>>>> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/>
> >>>> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
> >>>>>>> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing
> online
> >>>>>>> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns"
> directories
> >>>> under
> >>>>>>> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>"
> >>>> still appears to use the old
> >>>>>>> server. So:
> >>>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> >>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> still appears to work OK, while:
> >>>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> >>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> does not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages,
> but
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
> >>>> Would a
> >>>>>>> redirect from:
> >>>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >>>>>>> to:
> >>>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <
> >>>> https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
> >>>>>>> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
> >>>> netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
> >>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>> well?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi there,
I see, so you mean that http://netbeans.apache.org is redirecting to
https://netbeans.apache.org (i.e. http to httpS protocol), right?
AFAIK all ASF servers will do that redirection, from plain http to
https, so it's probably a good idea to have the DTDs in-place.
Another option would be to add _all_ DTDs to a well-known directory in
our build structure, and use the existing catalog.xml file there to
resolve them for all modules.
BTW, DTDs uploaded to the website have already an APLv2 license.
Cheers,
Antonio
El 20/04/2019 a las 19:07, Jan Lahoda escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:26 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/352
>
>
> Thanks Antonio!
>
> Unfortunately, it seems this didn't help with the (java.completion) tests.
> (Part of the issue might be that, AFAIK, java.net.URL does not redirect
> across protocols.) I've sumitted a PR that is changing the java.completion
> tests to use the local copies of the DTDs instead of trying to download
> them:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1206
>
> Comments are welcome, but I'd like to merge that soon.
>
> Jan
>
>
>>
>> El 18/04/2019 a las 6:47, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:
>>> FYI: reported as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2429
>>> -jt
>>>
>>>
>>> st 17. 4. 2019 v 17:13 odesílatel Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
>>>
>>> napsal:
>>>
>>>> This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup
>> for
>>>> it too; in case anything in there helps:
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing those
>>>> was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the
>> site
>>>> previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either
>> way
>>>> seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is
>>>> still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
>>>>
>>>> Wade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> dtds here too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wade
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
>>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files
>> there;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <mailto:
>>>> antonio@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>>>> <
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>>>> Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
>>>>>> expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day
>>>> or so
>>>>>> and it will be OK again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one,
>>>> we
>>>>>> can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <mailto:
>>>> lahoda@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
>>>> XSDs
>>>>>>> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not
>> only
>>>>>>> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
>>>> recent
>>>>>>> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/>
>>>> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
>>>>>>> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
>>>>>>> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
>>>> under
>>>>>>> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>"
>>>> still appears to use the old
>>>>>>> server. So:
>>>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> still appears to work OK, while:
>>>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but
>>>> it
>>>>>>> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
>>>> Would a
>>>>>>> redirect from:
>>>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <
>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
>>>>>>> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
>>>> netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists <
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:26 AM Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/352
Thanks Antonio!
Unfortunately, it seems this didn't help with the (java.completion) tests.
(Part of the issue might be that, AFAIK, java.net.URL does not redirect
across protocols.) I've sumitted a PR that is changing the java.completion
tests to use the local copies of the DTDs instead of trying to download
them:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1206
Comments are welcome, but I'd like to merge that soon.
Jan
>
> El 18/04/2019 a las 6:47, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:
> > FYI: reported as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2429
> > -jt
> >
> >
> > st 17. 4. 2019 v 17:13 odesílatel Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
> >
> > napsal:
> >
> >> This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup
> for
> >> it too; in case anything in there helps:
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> >> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> >>>
> >>
> >> It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing those
> >> was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the
> site
> >> previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either
> way
> >> seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is
> >> still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
> >>
> >> Wade
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> dtds here too
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wade
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files
> there;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
> >>>
> >>> Wade
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <mailto:
> >> antonio@vieiro.net>> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> >> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Antonio
> >>>
> >>> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> >>>> Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> >>>> expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day
> >> or so
> >>>> and it will be OK again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one,
> >> we
> >>>> can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <mailto:
> >> lahoda@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
> >> XSDs
> >>>>> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not
> only
> >>>>> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
> >> recent
> >>>>> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/>
> >> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
> >>>>> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
> >>>>> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
> >> under
> >>>>> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>"
> >> still appears to use the old
> >>>>> server. So:
> >>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> still appears to work OK, while:
> >>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> does not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but
> >> it
> >>>>> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
> >> Would a
> >>>>> redirect from:
> >>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >>>>> to:
> >>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
> >>>>> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
> >> netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> well?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Jan
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/352
El 18/04/2019 a las 6:47, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:
> FYI: reported as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2429
> -jt
>
>
> st 17. 4. 2019 v 17:13 odesílatel Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
> napsal:
>
>> This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup for
>> it too; in case anything in there helps:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
>>>
>>
>> It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing those
>> was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the site
>> previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either way
>> seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is
>> still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> dtds here too
>>>
>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
>> <
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
>>>
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there;
>>>
>>>
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
>> <
>> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <mailto:
>> antonio@vieiro.net>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
>>>> expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day
>> or so
>>>> and it will be OK again.
>>>>
>>>> Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one,
>> we
>>>> can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <mailto:
>> lahoda@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
>> XSDs
>>>>> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
>>>>> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
>> recent
>>>>> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/>
>> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
>>>>> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
>>>>> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
>> under
>>>>> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>"
>> still appears to use the old
>>>>> server. So:
>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
>>>>>
>>>>> still appears to work OK, while:
>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
>>>>>
>>>>> does not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but
>> it
>>>>> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
>> Would a
>>>>> redirect from:
>>>>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
>>>>> to:
>>>>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
>>>>>
>>>>> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <
>> https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
>>>>> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
>> netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
>>>>> as
>>>>> well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Jaroslav Tulach <ja...@gmail.com>.
FYI: reported as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2429
-jt
st 17. 4. 2019 v 17:13 odesílatel Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
napsal:
> This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup for
> it too; in case anything in there helps:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)
> >
>
> It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing those
> was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the site
> previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either way
> seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is
> still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
>
> Wade
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > dtds here too
> >
> >
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> <
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
> >
> >
> > Wade
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there;
> >
> >
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> <
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
> >
> >
> > It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
> >
> > Wade
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <mailto:
> antonio@vieiro.net>> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
> >
> > Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
> >
> >
> > Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Antonio
> >
> > El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > > Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> > > expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day
> or so
> > > and it will be OK again.
> > >
> > > Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one,
> we
> > > can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <mailto:
> lahoda@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
> XSDs
> > >> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
> > >> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
> recent
> > >> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/>
> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
> > >> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
> > >> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
> > >>
> > >> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
> under
> > >> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
> > >>
> > >> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>"
> still appears to use the old
> > >> server. So:
> > >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> > >>
> > >> still appears to work OK, while:
> > >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <
> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> > >>
> > >> does not.
> > >>
> > >> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but
> it
> > >> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
> Would a
> > >> redirect from:
> > >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
> > >> to:
> > >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
> > >>
> > >> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <
> https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
> > >> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
> netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
> > >> as
> > >> well?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Jan
> > >>
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
This is here too for extra reference; a couple Jira issues were setup for it too; in case anything in there helps:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas) <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning#NewNetBeansWebSitePlanning-RelocateDTDsandNS(XMLSchemas)>
It would be helpful to understand what the process for publishing those was before. Was there some build which did this automatically to the site previously, or were these manual steps with infrequent changes? Either way seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is still around which we could change up to use git pushes.
Wade
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> dtds here too
>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds <https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds>
>
> Wade
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there;
>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns <https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns>
>
> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
>
> Wade
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <antonio@vieiro.net <ma...@vieiro.net>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
>
> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration>
>
> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> > expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day or so
> > and it will be OK again.
> >
> > Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
> > can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or XSDs
> >> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
> >> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the recent
> >> change to use netbeans.apache.org <http://netbeans.apache.org/> instead of www.netbeans.org <http://www.netbeans.org/>, (some of)
> >> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
> >> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
> >>
> >> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories under
> >> (www.)netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>.
> >>
> >> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>" still appears to use the old
> >> server. So:
> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>
> >> still appears to work OK, while:
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd>
> >>
> >> does not.
> >>
> >> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
> >> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done. Would a
> >> redirect from:
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >> to:
> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/ <https://netbeans.org/dtds/>
> >>
> >> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/ <https://www.netbeans.org/ns/>".) After we
> >> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org/>
> >> as
> >> well?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jan
> >>
> >
>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
dtds here too
https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds
Wade
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there;
>
>
> https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
>
> It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
>
> Wade
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
>>
>> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>>
>> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>> > Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
>> > expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day
>> or so
>> > and it will be OK again.
>> >
>> > Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
>> > can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
>> >
>> > Gj
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
>> XSDs
>> >> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
>> >> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
>> recent
>> >> change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some
>> of)
>> >> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
>> >> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
>> >>
>> >> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
>> under
>> >> (www.)netbeans.org.
>> >>
>> >> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
>> >> server. So:
>> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>> >>
>> >> still appears to work OK, while:
>> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>> >>
>> >> does not.
>> >>
>> >> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
>> >> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
>> Would a
>> >> redirect from:
>> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
>> >> to:
>> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/
>> >>
>> >> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/".)
>> After we
>> >> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
>> netbeans.org
>> >> as
>> >> well?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Jan
>> >>
>> >
>>
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>>
Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there;
https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns
It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates.
Wade
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
>
> Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>
> Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
> El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> > expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day or
> so
> > and it will be OK again.
> >
> > Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
> > can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or
> XSDs
> >> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
> >> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the
> recent
> >> change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some
> of)
> >> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
> >> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
> >>
> >> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories
> under
> >> (www.)netbeans.org.
> >>
> >> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
> >> server. So:
> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
> >>
> >> still appears to work OK, while:
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
> >>
> >> does not.
> >>
> >> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
> >> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done.
> Would a
> >> redirect from:
> >> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
> >> to:
> >> https://netbeans.org/dtds/
> >>
> >> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/".) After
> we
> >> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for
> netbeans.org
> >> as
> >> well?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jan
> >>
> >
>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi,
Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.
Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?
Thanks,
Antonio
El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
> expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day or so
> and it will be OK again.
>
> Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
> can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or XSDs
>> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
>> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the recent
>> change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some of)
>> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
>> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories under
>> (www.)netbeans.org.
>>
>> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
>> server. So:
>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>>
>> still appears to work OK, while:
>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>>
>> does not.
>>
>> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
>> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done. Would a
>> redirect from:
>> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
>> to:
>> https://netbeans.org/dtds/
>>
>> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/".) After we
>> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for netbeans.org
>> as
>> well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
>>
>
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Re: DTDs and XSDs
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day or so
and it will be OK again.
Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
can investigate each case and see how to solve it.
Gj
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or XSDs
> to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
> inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the recent
> change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some of)
> these became unavailable. This can cause problems when doing online
> validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.
>
> As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories under
> (www.)netbeans.org.
>
> One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
> server. So:
> https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>
> still appears to work OK, while:
> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd
>
> does not.
>
> I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
> would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done. Would a
> redirect from:
> https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
> to:
> https://netbeans.org/dtds/
>
> work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/".) After we
> (re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for netbeans.org
> as
> well?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>