users@ Moderation

[Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>]

Apparently we've won a million dollars. :-(

But seriously this is getting ridiculous, the users list gets more
spam than messages. roughly one message per seven spam. for the
moderation requests I think there are probably 100+ spam per genuine
moderation issue.

I've got to the point where I don't bother to action users@
moderations, and I reckon that I get 99+% right by just ignoring them.
This makes the moderation email pretty pointless.

Any suggestions as to what we could do about it, sensible ones only
we're not about to get apache infrastructure to change the tools they
use, not unless we're prepared to do the admin, and I'm figuring that
if we don't have the resources to progress James at the rate we want
we certainly don't have the resources for any of that kind of thing.

d.

Re: users@ Moderation

[Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>]

Ironically, I had to moderate Serge's post ;-)

Generally, I think we should keep moderating, I find it is done rather 
quick using gmail. I'd even take one or two more lists if someone needs 
a rest...

   Bernd

Serge Knystautas wrote:
> Danny Angus wrote:
>> Apparently we've won a million dollars. :-(
>>
>> But seriously this is getting ridiculous, the users list gets more
>> spam than messages. roughly one message per seven spam. for the
>> moderation requests I think there are probably 100+ spam per genuine
>> moderation issue.
>>
>> I've got to the point where I don't bother to action users@
>> moderations, and I reckon that I get 99+% right by just ignoring them.
>> This makes the moderation email pretty pointless.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what we could do about it, sensible ones only
>> we're not about to get apache infrastructure to change the tools they
>> use, not unless we're prepared to do the admin, and I'm figuring that
>> if we don't have the resources to progress James at the rate we want
>> we certainly don't have the resources for any of that kind of thing.
> 
> We could turn off moderation and require you to be subscribed.  I 
> believe there are other ASF project mailing lists that have done this.
> 

Re: users@ Moderation

[Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>]

Danny Angus wrote:
> Apparently we've won a million dollars. :-(
> 
> But seriously this is getting ridiculous, the users list gets more
> spam than messages. roughly one message per seven spam. for the
> moderation requests I think there are probably 100+ spam per genuine
> moderation issue.
> 
> I've got to the point where I don't bother to action users@
> moderations, and I reckon that I get 99+% right by just ignoring them.
> This makes the moderation email pretty pointless.
> 
> Any suggestions as to what we could do about it, sensible ones only
> we're not about to get apache infrastructure to change the tools they
> use, not unless we're prepared to do the admin, and I'm figuring that
> if we don't have the resources to progress James at the rate we want
> we certainly don't have the resources for any of that kind of thing.

We could turn off moderation and require you to be subscribed.  I 
believe there are other ASF project mailing lists that have done this.

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