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Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
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Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings User
Group.
What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that apply
- Virtual Meetings
- Teaching
- Training
- Sales
- Project Collaboration
- Demonstration
- Other:
Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically
how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail about
your use case
How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting
your needs for this type of service? 1 2 3 4 5 Very Unsatisfied Very
Satisfied
Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following features
of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
- Ease of Use
- Audio/Video Quality
- Whiteboard
- Onscreen Document Collaboration
- Screen or Application Sharing
- Other:
Which one of the following features is most important to you?
- Shared Whiteboard
- Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
- Ability to Record Sessions
- Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
- Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
- Other:
Which of the following features would you like to be added to
OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
- Data Encryption
- Math Editor
- Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
- App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
- Other:
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Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Great. Thanks Sebastian!
Dan
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:17 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I've send an announcement to the LinkedIn and Xing groups:
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Apache-OpenMeetings-Open-Source-Web-2229974/about
> https://www.xing.com/net/prif438e1x/opensourcewebconferencing/
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/8 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>
>> Hi George (and the rest of the user group):
>>
>> George: Thanks so much for your feedback. I think you make some great
>> suggestions, both in terms of the survey itself, and features issues.
>>
>> Up to this point I have a total of 12 responses (plus yours, which is not
>> yet added to the survey). I would really like to get a larger number of
>> responses in order to make this more meaningful. Maybe you and others can
>> forward the survey to some of your end users?
>>
>> I would be happy to create a more detailed follow-up survey if the
>> response we get from this one is helpful to the community. However I think
>> that right now, given that the response rate is low, it would be best to
>> continue with what we have first, and then consider next steps with it.
>>
>> Also, FYI--since I am not a programmer/developer, I don't have an
>> understanding of the process by which suggested improvements are approved
>> or implemented. That might be helpful to know about if we do a more
>> extensive survey next time around.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:19 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel,**** I have given my thoughts for both additions to the survey
>>> and what would be my responses to the survey.****By the way, you forgot
>>> to include survey questions for other features such as the SIP dialler, SIP
>>> Exchange connection, Email Client, Dashboard, Chat window, Meeting room
>>> Chat area, Calendar feature, all the Administration
>>> sections/menus/features. **** The Calendar feature which if it was
>>> free from bugs would be excellent and attendees don’t have to log in, they
>>> just select a link.****Administration section could be improved by
>>> adding a “search” feature to all the sections.**** While it seems
>>> good, I have no use for the Email client so I wonder why it is there?**
>>> **I can find no purpose for the Dashboard, and would prefer people to
>>> log straight into the meeting rooms selection tabs, with the ability to
>>> have users log into their “groups” or “Companies” “Private rooms” when they
>>> first log in. Chat window/tab should be another tab on the right of all
>>> the Rooms tabs. (I am getting away from the survey).**** I also suggest
>>> a rating system, e.g. (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being
>>> the least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)****
>>> ** **Open Meetings Use Cases Survey****
>>>
>>> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
>>> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings
>>> User Group.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
>>> apply ****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Virtual Meetings****
>>>
>>> **· **[3 ] Teaching****
>>>
>>> **· **[7 ] Training****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Sales****
>>>
>>> **· **[1 ] Project Collaboration****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Demonstration****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> NB: I have given ratings to our use of OpenMeetings with 1 being the
>>> most important and 10 being the least.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically
>>> how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail about
>>> your use case ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting
>>> your needs for this type of service? ****
>>>
>>> Overall****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> (X)****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Whiteboard****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ()****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> (5)****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Whiteboard tools****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ()****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> (5 )****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Video****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ()****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( 4)****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Audio****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ()****
>>>
>>> ( 3)****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Calendar****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ()****
>>>
>>> (3 )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> Chat****
>>>
>>> 1****
>>>
>>> 2****
>>>
>>> 3****
>>>
>>> 4****
>>>
>>> 5****
>>>
>>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> ( )****
>>>
>>> (5)****
>>>
>>> Very Satisfied****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
>>> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply (Ratings: 1 being the
>>> most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no
>>> importance to you)****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> **· **[ 1] Ease of Use****
>>>
>>> **· **[3 ] Audio/Video Quality****
>>>
>>> **· **[1] Whiteboard****
>>>
>>> **· **[1] Chat (as in Meeting room)****
>>>
>>> **· **[4 ] Onscreen Document Collaboration****
>>>
>>> **· **[5 ] Dashboard****
>>>
>>> **· **[7 ] Separate Chat Window****
>>>
>>> **· **[2 ] Calendar Meeting Scheduling****
>>>
>>> **· **[0 ] Email Client****
>>>
>>> **· **[3 ] Meeting Recordings****
>>>
>>> **· **[5 ] Meeting Recording viewer****
>>>
>>> **· **[1 ] SIP Exchange connection****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> NB: a) Our [new] users find the menus and screens difficult to
>>> navigate. ****
>>>
>>> b) The Audio suffers from echo (but there may not be much we can do
>>> about that?). ****
>>>
>>> c) The screen sharing application seems to fail if you start and stop it
>>> a few times. I am not confident that it is stable. Trouble is that people
>>> with large screens 1920x1080 want to share their screens with people who
>>> have smaller screens and the shrunk screen of the shared screen is
>>> unreadable. If you try to share only part of your screen then the entire
>>> screen size is transmitted but only part of the screen is visible.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Which one of the following features is most important to you? (Ratings: 1
>>> being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no
>>> importance to you)****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Shared Whiteboard****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Sharing Files with Meeting Participants****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Converting MS Office Files for Meeting Presentations
>>> [sadly this does not work very well]****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Converting PDF for Meeting Presentations [very
>>> important as MS Office conversion does not work well]****
>>>
>>> **· **(7) Ability to Record Sessions****
>>>
>>> **· **(3) Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms****
>>>
>>> **· **(1) Calendar Event Meeting Rooms****
>>>
>>> **· **( ) Other: ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
>>> OpenMeetings? (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the
>>> least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)****
>>>
>>> Choose all that apply ****
>>>
>>> **· **[1] Program Stability (i.e. users do not drop out during
>>> meetings, Features don’t fail)****
>>>
>>> **· **[1] Ease of use for Participants****
>>>
>>> **· **[10] Data Encryption****
>>>
>>> **· **[0] Math Editor****
>>>
>>> **· **[3] Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within
>>> OpenMeetings (screen sharing is great for this)****
>>>
>>> **· **[0 ] App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything(would be nice?)
>>> ****
>>>
>>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [Submit]****
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan,
I've send an announcement to the LinkedIn and Xing groups:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Apache-OpenMeetings-Open-Source-Web-2229974/about
https://www.xing.com/net/prif438e1x/opensourcewebconferencing/
Hope it helps.
Sebastian
2012/7/8 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> Hi George (and the rest of the user group):
>
> George: Thanks so much for your feedback. I think you make some great
> suggestions, both in terms of the survey itself, and features issues.
>
> Up to this point I have a total of 12 responses (plus yours, which is not
> yet added to the survey). I would really like to get a larger number of
> responses in order to make this more meaningful. Maybe you and others can
> forward the survey to some of your end users?
>
> I would be happy to create a more detailed follow-up survey if the
> response we get from this one is helpful to the community. However I think
> that right now, given that the response rate is low, it would be best to
> continue with what we have first, and then consider next steps with it.
>
> Also, FYI--since I am not a programmer/developer, I don't have an
> understanding of the process by which suggested improvements are approved
> or implemented. That might be helpful to know about if we do a more
> extensive survey next time around.
>
> Best.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:19 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>
>> Daniel,**** I have given my thoughts for both additions to the survey
>> and what would be my responses to the survey.****By the way, you forgot
>> to include survey questions for other features such as the SIP dialler, SIP
>> Exchange connection, Email Client, Dashboard, Chat window, Meeting room
>> Chat area, Calendar feature, all the Administration
>> sections/menus/features. **** The Calendar feature which if it was free
>> from bugs would be excellent and attendees don’t have to log in, they just
>> select a link.****Administration section could be improved by adding a
>> “search” feature to all the sections.**** While it seems good, I have no
>> use for the Email client so I wonder why it is there?****I can find no
>> purpose for the Dashboard, and would prefer people to log straight into the
>> meeting rooms selection tabs, with the ability to have users log into their
>> “groups” or “Companies” “Private rooms” when they first log in. Chat
>> window/tab should be another tab on the right of all the Rooms tabs. (I am
>> getting away from the survey).**** I also suggest a rating system, e.g. (Ratings:
>> 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or
>> of no importance to you)****
>> ** **Open Meetings Use Cases Survey****
>>
>> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
>> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings User
>> Group.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
>> apply ****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Virtual Meetings****
>>
>> **· **[3 ] Teaching****
>>
>> **· **[7 ] Training****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Sales****
>>
>> **· **[1 ] Project Collaboration****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Demonstration****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> NB: I have given ratings to our use of OpenMeetings with 1 being the most
>> important and 10 being the least.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically
>> how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail about
>> your use case ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting
>> your needs for this type of service? ****
>>
>> Overall****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> (X)****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Whiteboard****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ()****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> (5)****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Whiteboard tools****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ()****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> (5 )****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Video****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ()****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( 4)****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Audio****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ()****
>>
>> ( 3)****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Calendar****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ()****
>>
>> (3 )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> Chat****
>>
>> 1****
>>
>> 2****
>>
>> 3****
>>
>> 4****
>>
>> 5****
>>
>> Very Unsatisfied****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> ( )****
>>
>> (5)****
>>
>> Very Satisfied****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following features
>> of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply (Ratings: 1 being the most
>> important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no importance to
>> you)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **· **[ 1] Ease of Use****
>>
>> **· **[3 ] Audio/Video Quality****
>>
>> **· **[1] Whiteboard****
>>
>> **· **[1] Chat (as in Meeting room)****
>>
>> **· **[4 ] Onscreen Document Collaboration****
>>
>> **· **[5 ] Dashboard****
>>
>> **· **[7 ] Separate Chat Window****
>>
>> **· **[2 ] Calendar Meeting Scheduling****
>>
>> **· **[0 ] Email Client****
>>
>> **· **[3 ] Meeting Recordings****
>>
>> **· **[5 ] Meeting Recording viewer****
>>
>> **· **[1 ] SIP Exchange connection****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> NB: a) Our [new] users find the menus and screens difficult to navigate.
>> ****
>>
>> b) The Audio suffers from echo (but there may not be much we can do about
>> that?). ****
>>
>> c) The screen sharing application seems to fail if you start and stop it
>> a few times. I am not confident that it is stable. Trouble is that people
>> with large screens 1920x1080 want to share their screens with people who
>> have smaller screens and the shrunk screen of the shared screen is
>> unreadable. If you try to share only part of your screen then the entire
>> screen size is transmitted but only part of the screen is visible.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Which one of the following features is most important to you? (Ratings: 1
>> being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no
>> importance to you)****
>>
>> **· **(1) Shared Whiteboard****
>>
>> **· **(1) Sharing Files with Meeting Participants****
>>
>> **· **(1) Converting MS Office Files for Meeting Presentations
>> [sadly this does not work very well]****
>>
>> **· **(1) Converting PDF for Meeting Presentations [very
>> important as MS Office conversion does not work well]****
>>
>> **· **(7) Ability to Record Sessions****
>>
>> **· **(3) Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants****
>>
>> **· **(1) Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms****
>>
>> **· **(1) Calendar Event Meeting Rooms****
>>
>> **· **( ) Other: ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
>> OpenMeetings? (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the
>> least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)****
>>
>> Choose all that apply ****
>>
>> **· **[1] Program Stability (i.e. users do not drop out during
>> meetings, Features don’t fail)****
>>
>> **· **[1] Ease of use for Participants****
>>
>> **· **[10] Data Encryption****
>>
>> **· **[0] Math Editor****
>>
>> **· **[3] Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within
>> OpenMeetings (screen sharing is great for this)****
>>
>> **· **[0 ] App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything(would be nice?)
>> ****
>>
>> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [Submit]****
>>
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>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com****
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Hi George (and the rest of the user group):
George: Thanks so much for your feedback. I think you make some great
suggestions, both in terms of the survey itself, and features issues.
Up to this point I have a total of 12 responses (plus yours, which is not
yet added to the survey). I would really like to get a larger number of
responses in order to make this more meaningful. Maybe you and others can
forward the survey to some of your end users?
I would be happy to create a more detailed follow-up survey if the response
we get from this one is helpful to the community. However I think that
right now, given that the response rate is low, it would be best to
continue with what we have first, and then consider next steps with it.
Also, FYI--since I am not a programmer/developer, I don't have an
understanding of the process by which suggested improvements are approved
or implemented. That might be helpful to know about if we do a more
extensive survey next time around.
Best.
Dan
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:19 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
> Daniel,**** I have given my thoughts for both additions to the survey and
> what would be my responses to the survey.****By the way, you forgot to
> include survey questions for other features such as the SIP dialler, SIP
> Exchange connection, Email Client, Dashboard, Chat window, Meeting room
> Chat area, Calendar feature, all the Administration
> sections/menus/features. **** The Calendar feature which if it was free
> from bugs would be excellent and attendees don’t have to log in, they just
> select a link.****Administration section could be improved by adding a
> “search” feature to all the sections.**** While it seems good, I have no
> use for the Email client so I wonder why it is there?****I can find no
> purpose for the Dashboard, and would prefer people to log straight into the
> meeting rooms selection tabs, with the ability to have users log into their
> “groups” or “Companies” “Private rooms” when they first log in. Chat
> window/tab should be another tab on the right of all the Rooms tabs. (I am
> getting away from the survey).**** I also suggest a rating system, e.g. (Ratings:
> 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or
> of no importance to you)****
> ** **Open Meetings Use Cases Survey****
>
> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings User
> Group.****
>
> ** **
>
> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that apply
> ****
>
> **· **[ ] Virtual Meetings****
>
> **· **[3 ] Teaching****
>
> **· **[7 ] Training****
>
> **· **[ ] Sales****
>
> **· **[1 ] Project Collaboration****
>
> **· **[ ] Demonstration****
>
> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>
> ** **
>
> NB: I have given ratings to our use of OpenMeetings with 1 being the most
> important and 10 being the least.****
>
> ** **
>
> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically
> how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail about
> your use case ****
>
> ** **
>
> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting
> your needs for this type of service? ****
>
> Overall****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> (X)****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Whiteboard****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ()****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> (5)****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Whiteboard tools****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ()****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> (5 )****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Video****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ()****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( 4)****
>
> ( )****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Audio****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ()****
>
> ( 3)****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Calendar****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ()****
>
> (3 )****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> Chat****
>
> 1****
>
> 2****
>
> 3****
>
> 4****
>
> 5****
>
> Very Unsatisfied****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> ( )****
>
> (5)****
>
> Very Satisfied****
>
> ** **
>
> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following features
> of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply (Ratings: 1 being the most
> important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no importance to
> you)****
>
> ** **
>
> **· **[ 1] Ease of Use****
>
> **· **[3 ] Audio/Video Quality****
>
> **· **[1] Whiteboard****
>
> **· **[1] Chat (as in Meeting room)****
>
> **· **[4 ] Onscreen Document Collaboration****
>
> **· **[5 ] Dashboard****
>
> **· **[7 ] Separate Chat Window****
>
> **· **[2 ] Calendar Meeting Scheduling****
>
> **· **[0 ] Email Client****
>
> **· **[3 ] Meeting Recordings****
>
> **· **[5 ] Meeting Recording viewer****
>
> **· **[1 ] SIP Exchange connection****
>
> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>
> ** **
>
> NB: a) Our [new] users find the menus and screens difficult to navigate.
> ****
>
> b) The Audio suffers from echo (but there may not be much we can do about
> that?). ****
>
> c) The screen sharing application seems to fail if you start and stop it a
> few times. I am not confident that it is stable. Trouble is that people
> with large screens 1920x1080 want to share their screens with people who
> have smaller screens and the shrunk screen of the shared screen is
> unreadable. If you try to share only part of your screen then the entire
> screen size is transmitted but only part of the screen is visible.****
>
> ** **
>
> Which one of the following features is most important to you? (Ratings: 1
> being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no
> importance to you)****
>
> **· **(1) Shared Whiteboard****
>
> **· **(1) Sharing Files with Meeting Participants****
>
> **· **(1) Converting MS Office Files for Meeting Presentations
> [sadly this does not work very well]****
>
> **· **(1) Converting PDF for Meeting Presentations [very
> important as MS Office conversion does not work well]****
>
> **· **(7) Ability to Record Sessions****
>
> **· **(3) Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants****
>
> **· **(1) Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms****
>
> **· **(1) Calendar Event Meeting Rooms****
>
> **· **( ) Other: ****
>
> ** **
>
> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
> OpenMeetings? (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the
> least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)****
>
> Choose all that apply ****
>
> **· **[1] Program Stability (i.e. users do not drop out during
> meetings, Features don’t fail)****
>
> **· **[1] Ease of use for Participants****
>
> **· **[10] Data Encryption****
>
> **· **[0] Math Editor****
>
> **· **[3] Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within
> OpenMeetings (screen sharing is great for this)****
>
> **· **[0 ] App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything(would be nice?)
> ****
>
> **· **[ ] Other: ****
>
> ** **
>
> [Submit]****
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RE: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Daniel,
I have given my thoughts for both additions to the survey and what would be my responses to the survey.
By the way, you forgot to include survey questions for other features such as the SIP dialler, SIP Exchange connection, Email Client, Dashboard, Chat window, Meeting room Chat area, Calendar feature, all the Administration sections/menus/features.
The Calendar feature which if it was free from bugs would be excellent and attendees don’t have to log in, they just select a link.
Administration section could be improved by adding a “search” feature to all the sections.
While it seems good, I have no use for the Email client so I wonder why it is there?
I can find no purpose for the Dashboard, and would prefer people to log straight into the meeting rooms selection tabs, with the ability to have users log into their “groups” or “Companies” “Private rooms” when they first log in. Chat window/tab should be another tab on the right of all the Rooms tabs. (I am getting away from the survey).
I also suggest a rating system, e.g. (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)
Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is being used. This information will be shared with the OpenMeetings User Group.
What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that apply
· [ ] Virtual Meetings
· [3 ] Teaching
· [7 ] Training
· [ ] Sales
· [1 ] Project Collaboration
· [ ] Demonstration
· [ ] Other:
NB: I have given ratings to our use of OpenMeetings with 1 being the most important and 10 being the least.
Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail about your use case
How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting your needs for this type of service?
Overall
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
(X)
( )
( )
( )
Very Satisfied
Whiteboard
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
()
( )
( )
(5)
Very Satisfied
Whiteboard tools
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
()
( )
( )
(5 )
Very Satisfied
Video
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
()
( )
( 4)
( )
Very Satisfied
Audio
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
()
( 3)
( )
( )
Very Satisfied
Calendar
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
()
(3 )
( )
( )
Very Satisfied
Chat
1
2
3
4
5
Very Unsatisfied
( )
( )
( )
( )
(5)
Very Satisfied
Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no importance to you)
· [ 1] Ease of Use
· [3 ] Audio/Video Quality
· [1] Whiteboard
· [1] Chat (as in Meeting room)
· [4 ] Onscreen Document Collaboration
· [5 ] Dashboard
· [7 ] Separate Chat Window
· [2 ] Calendar Meeting Scheduling
· [0 ] Email Client
· [3 ] Meeting Recordings
· [5 ] Meeting Recording viewer
· [1 ] SIP Exchange connection
· [ ] Other:
NB: a) Our [new] users find the menus and screens difficult to navigate.
b) The Audio suffers from echo (but there may not be much we can do about that?).
c) The screen sharing application seems to fail if you start and stop it a few times. I am not confident that it is stable. Trouble is that people with large screens 1920x1080 want to share their screens with people who have smaller screens and the shrunk screen of the shared screen is unreadable. If you try to share only part of your screen then the entire screen size is transmitted but only part of the screen is visible.
Which one of the following features is most important to you? (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or no importance to you)
· (1) Shared Whiteboard
· (1) Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
· (1) Converting MS Office Files for Meeting Presentations [sadly this does not work very well]
· (1) Converting PDF for Meeting Presentations [very important as MS Office conversion does not work well]
· (7) Ability to Record Sessions
· (3) Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
· (1) Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
· (1) Calendar Event Meeting Rooms
· ( ) Other:
Which of the following features would you like to be added to OpenMeetings? (Ratings: 1 being the most important and 10 being the least, 0 being not required or of no importance to you)
Choose all that apply
· [1] Program Stability (i.e. users do not drop out during meetings, Features don’t fail)
· [1] Ease of use for Participants
· [10] Data Encryption
· [0] Math Editor
· [3] Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings (screen sharing is great for this)
· [0 ] App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything (would be nice?)
· [ ] Other:
[Submit]
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RE: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Tom,
I believe “ant clean.all”, is a fix for the issue we were both experiencing. If this is true and you had been using the binaries of the Jenkins nightly builds from https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/, then I would have to believe that this build process must also be missing the “ant clean.all”, or that you had downloaded your copy of the build before the original fix was added (?).
As this worked for me, I would suggest that you install ANT and then follow the steps that I did to build OpenMeetings.
I use to create a clean build of OpenMeetings (please let me know if I am missing any other steps). The steps show some of the output of the various commands.
# rm -rf 2.0
# svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
…
A 2.0/.settings/.jsdtscope
A 2.0/.settings/org.eclipse.wst.common.component
U 2.0
Checked out revision 1359425.
# cd 2.0
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant clean.all
Buildfile: /usr/adm/om20/2.0/build.xml
clean.dist:
clean.all:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 0 seconds
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
-copy-libraries:
[copy] Copying 10 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/lib
[copy] Copying 84 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib
dist:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 2 minutes 19 seconds
# /etc/init.d/red5 stop
# mysql -u root -p
mysql> DROP DATABASE openmeetings;
mysql> CREATE DATABASE openmeetings DEFAULT CHARACTER SET 'utf8';
mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON openmeetings.* TO 'openmeetings'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
mysql> quit;
# mv /usr/lib/red5 /usr/lib/red5.002
# mv dist/red5 /usr/lib/red5
# mv /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml-ori
# cp /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/mysql_persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# cp -R /usr/adm/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4 /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings
# sed -i 's/Username=root/Username=openmeetings/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# sed -i 's/Password=/Password=password/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# chmod +x /usr/lib/red5/*.sh
# chown -R nobody /usr/lib/red5
# /etc/init.d/red5 start
# netstat -anp | grep java
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8088 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::5080 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::45348 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:43510 127.0.0.1:3306 ESTABLISHED 6823/java
e
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Tom Judge [mailto:judget@learnubuntu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 12:50 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot play meeting room screen recordings
George
Is the the same issue we had been working on?
If so please advise what I need to do to fix my system
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On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 11:54 +1000, George Kirkham wrote:
Sebastian,
Thanks, and as you said, running “ant clean.all” before the “ant -Ddb=mysql” has resolved the issue of playing back recordings.
If anyone is interested, below are the steps that I use to create a clean build of OpenMeetings (please let me know if I am missing any other steps).
# rm -rf 2.0
# svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
…
A 2.0/.settings/.jsdtscope
A 2.0/.settings/org.eclipse.wst.common.component
U 2.0
Checked out revision 1359425.
# cd 2.0
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant clean.all
Buildfile: /usr/adm/om20/2.0/build.xml
clean.dist:
clean.all:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 0 seconds
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
-copy-libraries:
[copy] Copying 10 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/lib
[copy] Copying 84 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib
dist:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 2 minutes 19 seconds
# /etc/init.d/red5 stop
# mysql -u root -p
mysql> DROP DATABASE openmeetings;
mysql> CREATE DATABASE openmeetings DEFAULT CHARACTER SET 'utf8';
mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON openmeetings.* TO 'openmeetings'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
mysql> quit;
# mv /usr/lib/red5 /usr/lib/red5.002
# mv dist/red5 /usr/lib/red5
# mv /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml-ori
# cp /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/mysql_persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# cp -R /usr/adm/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4 /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings
# sed -i 's/Username=root/Username=openmeetings/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# sed -i 's/Password=/Password=password/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
# chmod +x /usr/lib/red5/*.sh
# chown -R nobody /usr/lib/red5
# /etc/init.d/red5 start
# netstat -anp | grep java
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8088 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::5080 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::45348 :::* LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:43510 127.0.0.1:3306 ESTABLISHED 6823/java
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:31 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot play meeting room screen recordings
oops,
I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct reference:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/build.properties
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
you need to run
ant clean.all
if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the script to freshly checkout the red5 components.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it might require some further changes not only the change of the revision number of red5.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I would have expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees with the revision shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that the red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still experiencing this issue (and also the ‘5 second “Start recording test” does not play back’ issue)? Or is there a later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so, then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that is if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still experiencing these issues.
2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start recording test” does not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but since then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now I only see the video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have attached log files, created just after I press the play button after recording the 5 second “Start recording test”. I am guessing that these two are related issues. Is there any way these problems can be solved?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Hi George,
indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be already solved.
When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in your console log?
There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32 bit server.
svn checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# <mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0> /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front” everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.
I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar Event meeting and this has worked well for me.
/usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are not log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.
parentPath = null
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir: /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path: /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# <mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0> ls -al /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
total 56296
drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29 default_interview_image.fla
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29 default_interview_image.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29 default_interview_image.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06 flvRecording_1.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05 flvRecording_2.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07 flvRecording_3.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205" modified="1341813740000">
<KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>
<KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>
<KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>
<KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>
<KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>
</FrameMetadata>
I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job … unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”, and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.
Permalinks
* Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago <https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
* Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago <https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
* Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago <https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Hi George,
you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe tomorrow morning.
If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
About some test - scenarios:
There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard tests:
http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
And for the recording features a more detailed one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I think one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would need to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
You think you would like to be that person?
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.
Is the following suggestion possible?
1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has everyone’s change being applied to it.
2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ? OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More frequently if people have time to go though the tests.
Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature testing?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
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http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
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http://www.webbase-design.de
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https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
--
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https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
RE: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot
play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by Tom Judge <ju...@learnubuntu.org>.
George
Is the the same issue we had been working on?
If so please advise what I need to do to fix my system
thanks
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On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 11:54 +1000, George Kirkham wrote:
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> Thanks, and as you said, running “ant clean.all” before the “ant
> -Ddb=mysql” has resolved the issue of playing back recordings.
>
>
>
> If anyone is interested, below are the steps that I use to create a
> clean build of OpenMeetings (please let me know if I am missing any
> other steps).
>
>
>
> # rm -rf 2.0
>
> # svn checkout
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>
> …
>
> A 2.0/.settings/.jsdtscope
>
> A 2.0/.settings/org.eclipse.wst.common.component
>
> U 2.0
>
> Checked out revision 1359425.
>
>
>
> # cd 2.0
>
> # /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant clean.all
>
> Buildfile: /usr/adm/om20/2.0/build.xml
>
> clean.dist:
>
> clean.all:
>
> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>
> Total time: 0 seconds
>
>
>
> # /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
>
> -copy-libraries:
>
> [copy] Copying 10 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/lib
>
> [copy] Copying 84 files
> to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib
>
> dist:
>
> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>
> Total time: 2 minutes 19 seconds
>
>
>
> # /etc/init.d/red5 stop
>
> # mysql -u root -p
>
> mysql> DROP DATABASE openmeetings;
>
> mysql> CREATE DATABASE openmeetings DEFAULT CHARACTER SET 'utf8';
>
> mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON openmeetings.* TO
> 'openmeetings'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
>
> mysql> quit;
>
>
>
> # mv /usr/lib/red5 /usr/lib/red5.002
>
> # mv dist/red5 /usr/lib/red5
>
> #
> mv /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml-ori
>
> #
> cp /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/mysql_persistence.xml /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
>
> # cp
> -R /usr/adm/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4 /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings
>
> # sed -i
> 's/Username=root/Username=openmeetings/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
>
> # sed -i
> 's/Password=/Password=password/g' /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.xml
>
> # chmod +x /usr/lib/red5/*.sh
>
> # chown -R nobody /usr/lib/red5
>
> # /etc/init.d/red5 start
>
> # netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::*
> LISTEN 6823/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::*
> LISTEN 6823/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8088 :::*
> LISTEN 6823/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::5080 :::*
> LISTEN 6823/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::45348 :::*
> LISTEN 6823/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:43510 127.0.0.1:3306
> ESTABLISHED 6823/java
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:31 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and
> cannot play meeting room screen recordings
>
>
>
>
>
> oops,
>
> I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
> As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct
> reference:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/build.properties
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
> you need to run
> ant clean.all
> if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the
> script to freshly checkout the red5 components.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
> Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
>
> You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however
> it might require some further changes not only the change of
> the revision number of red5.
>
>
>
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I
> would have expected that I had the most recent version, which
> agrees with the revision shown below
> from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that
> the red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still
> experiencing this issue (and also the ‘5 second “Start
> recording test” does not play back’ issue)? Or is there a
> later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so, then
> maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version
> (that is if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still
> experiencing these issues.
>
>
>
> 2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher
> - Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $
> (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>
>
>
>
>
> As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start
> recording test” does not play back. It actually worked once,
> the first time, but since then it does not play back the 5
> second video/audio recording. Now I only see the video while
> it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have attached
> log files, created just after I press the play button after
> recording the 5 second “Start recording test”. I am guessing
> that these two are related issues. Is there any way these
> problems can be solved?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid
> changes
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> indeed the problem you describe should have been already
> solved.
> It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should
> be already solved.
>
> When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is
> printed in your console log?
> There should be something like this around Line 100 of
> jvmstd.out (file produced when you start using
> red5-highperf.sh):
> Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $
> (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a
> Debian 32 bit server.
>
>
>
> svn checkout
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>
>
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
>
>
>
> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it
> back, I only get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering
> in the background?). If I move to a new menu item, I get a
> black “video window” in the “front” everything else that
> should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen shot to
> show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV
> file, VLC player plays the recorded video quite well, just I
> am unable to view it by the “Recordings” menu option in
> OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a
> previous issue that I had, I have tested invitations and
> screen sharing in a Calendar Event meeting and this has worked
> well for me.
>
>
>
> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video.
> There are not log entries for when I select “play” to play the
> selected video.
>
>
>
> parentPath = null
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg
> current_dir: /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] -
> full_path: /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0
>
>
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls
> -al /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
>
> total 56296
>
> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .
>
> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.fla
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.jpg
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.png
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55
> flvRecording_1.avi
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55
> flvRecording_1.flv
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06
> flvRecording_1.flv.meta
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55
> flvRecording_1.jpg
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04
> flvRecording_2.avi
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04
> flvRecording_2.flv
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05
> flvRecording_2.flv.meta
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04
> flvRecording_2.jpg
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02
> flvRecording_3.avi
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02
> flvRecording_3.flv
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07
> flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02
> flvRecording_3.jpg
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29
> one_second.wav
>
>
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>
>
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>
> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
> modified="1341813740000">
>
> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>
>
> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>
>
> </FrameMetadata>
>
>
>
>
>
> cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990
>
>
>
> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins
> build job … unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems
> to be currently buggy”, and so Jenkins has not been able to
> successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.
>
>
>
> Permalinks
> * Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
> * Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
> * Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid
> changes
>
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> you are right there are recently a number of changes
> committed, however trunk is now version 2.1.
> I've set up a new SVN branch:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>
> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but
> not any new features).
> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We
> will continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new
> Jenkins build job:
> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be
> currently buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But
> there should be one maybe tomorrow morning.
>
> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it
> to our list and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our
> release candidate.
>
> About some test - scenarios:
> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of
> standard tests:
> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>
> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more
> tests. I think one major task before we do start to write down
> those tests we would need to find a consens on a person
> responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even call it "Quality
> assurance executive" :)
> You think you would like to be that person?
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>
> Sebastian,
>
>
>
> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0
> latest revision, there is something that was working before
> but is now broken. I understand that we are doing a lot of
> updates and changes but some stability would be greatly
> appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings
> 2.0 in production.
>
>
>
> Is the following suggestion possible?
>
>
>
> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which
> has everyone’s change being applied to it.
>
> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e.
> Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a
> set of basic testing.
>
> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that
> OpenMeetings can be tested against this set of tests before it
> is loaded into Jenkins ? OpenMeetings could be uploaded to
> Jenkins on a monthly basis? More frequently if people have
> time to go though the tests.
>
>
>
> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a
> stable version every so often which has been though some form
> of complete feature testing?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
RE: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
Thanks, and as you said, running "ant clean.all" before the "ant
-Ddb=mysql" has resolved the issue of playing back recordings.
If anyone is interested, below are the steps that I use to create a
clean build of OpenMeetings (please let me know if I am missing any
other steps).
# rm -rf 2.0
# svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
...
A 2.0/.settings/.jsdtscope
A 2.0/.settings/org.eclipse.wst.common.component
U 2.0
Checked out revision 1359425.
# cd 2.0
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant clean.all
Buildfile: /usr/adm/om20/2.0/build.xml
clean.dist:
clean.all:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 0 seconds
# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
-copy-libraries:
[copy] Copying 10 files to /usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/lib
[copy] Copying 84 files to
/usr/adm/om20/2.0/dist/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib
dist:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 2 minutes 19 seconds
# /etc/init.d/red5 stop
# mysql -u root -p
mysql> DROP DATABASE openmeetings;
mysql> CREATE DATABASE openmeetings DEFAULT CHARACTER SET 'utf8';
mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON openmeetings.* TO
'openmeetings'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
mysql> quit;
# mv /usr/lib/red5 /usr/lib/red5.002
# mv dist/red5 /usr/lib/red5
# mv
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.
xml
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.
xml-ori
# cp
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/mysql_persis
tence.xml
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.
xml
# cp -R /usr/adm/jodconverter-core-3.0-beta-4
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings
# sed -i 's/Username=root/Username=openmeetings/g'
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.
xml
# sed -i 's/Password=/Password=password/g'
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/persistence.
xml
# chmod +x /usr/lib/red5/*.sh
# chown -R nobody /usr/lib/red5
# /etc/init.d/red5 start
# netstat -anp | grep java
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::*
LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::*
LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8088 :::*
LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::5080 :::*
LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 :::45348 :::*
LISTEN 6823/java
tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:43510 127.0.0.1:3306
ESTABLISHED 6823/java
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:31 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and
cannot play meeting room screen recordings
oops,
I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct
reference:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/bui
ld.properties
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
you need to run
ant clean.all
if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the
script to freshly checkout the red5 components.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build
.properties
You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it
might require some further changes not only the change of the revision
number of red5.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I
would have expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees
with the revision shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however
it would seem that the red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am
still experiencing this issue (and also the '5 second "Start recording
test" does not play back' issue)? Or is there a later revision of the
red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so, then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still
picking up an older version (that is if Rev: 4380 is the older version)
as I am still experiencing these issues.
2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher -
Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
As stated above, I also find that the 5 second "Start recording
test" does not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but
since then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now
I only see the video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I
have attached log files, created just after I press the play button
after recording the 5 second "Start recording test". I am guessing that
these two are related issues. Is there any way these problems can be
solved?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid
changes
Hi George,
indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should
be already solved.
When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is
printed in your console log?
There should be something like this around Line 100 of
jvmstd.out (file produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (
http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a
Debian 32 bit server.
svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0#
<mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0>
/usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back,
I only get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the
background?). If I move to a new menu item, I get a black "video
window" in the "front" everything else that should be on the screen. I
have inserted an screen shot to show you what it looks like. Can other
people reproduce this issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI
or the FLV file, VLC player plays the recorded video quite well, just I
am unable to view it by the "Recordings" menu option in OpenMeetings.
I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous
issue that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a
Calendar Event meeting and this has worked well for me.
/usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video.
There are not log entries for when I select "play" to play the selected
video.
parentPath = null
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0#
<mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0> ls -al
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
total 56296
drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.fla
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06
flvRecording_1.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05
flvRecording_2.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07
flvRecording_3.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.
meta
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
modified="1341813740000">
<KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>
<KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>
<KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>
<KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>
<KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>
</FrameMetadata>
I noticed that as you said, "I tried to set up a new Jenkins
build job ... unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be
currently buggy", and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully
compile the 2.0 trunk.
Permalinks
* Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
* Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
* Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/
>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid
changes
Hi George,
you are right there are recently a number of changes committed,
however trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not
any new features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We
will continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new
Jenkins build job:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be
currently buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should
be one maybe tomorrow morning.
If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to
our list and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release
candidate.
About some test - scenarios:
There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of
standard tests:
http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
And for the recording features a more detailed one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Applic
ation+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more
tests. I think one major task before we do start to write down those
tests we would need to find a consens on a person responsible for the
tests. Or maybe we even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
You think you would like to be that person?
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest
revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken.
I understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some
stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are
using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.
Is the following suggestion possible?
1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
everyone's change being applied to it.
2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e.
Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of
basic testing.
3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that
OpenMeetings can be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded
into Jenkins ? OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly
basis? More frequently if people have time to go though the tests.
Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a
stable version every so often which has been though some form of
complete feature testing?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
FW: Client issues after upgrade
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Oleg,
You asked "3. A few days ago we were recommended to take svn version
from
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
<http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/> "
What is the difference between this version and the "trunk- version" ? "
The best way that I can answer this for you is to quote Sebastian when
he responded to issues that I had;
"you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ..." See the email trial below for
further detail of our conversations. While I would like to see
improvements made to the user interface, at this time my efforts are
focused to getting this 2.0 trunk/tree as stable as possible by
identifying any bugs are requesting fixes.
If you build from the above 2.0 trunk, I would be very interested to
know how your tests go. I have found it more stable, less issues than "
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singleweba
pp/
<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singleweb
app/> " which you have been using. So far the greatest number of people
in a conference that we have had has been nine. It would be great to be
able to have 85 participants to be able to test with.
Do you ever have issues with people who cannot connect because their
firewall blocks the ports that OpenMeetings uses? I have one group of
people who we would like to conference with whose firewall blocks ports
5080, 1935 and 8088. Fortunately I have found away to change the ports
that Openmeetings uses.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 4:17 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and
cannot play meeting room screen recordings
Hi George,
please do an SVN update of the 2.0 branch and run:
ant clean.all
followed with
ant -Ddb=mysql dist
I think those red5 related issues should be solved then.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
oops,
I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct
reference:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/bui
ld.properties
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
you need to run
ant clean.all
if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force
the script to freshly checkout the red5 components.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build
.properties
You might try to change those properties to use 4388,
however it might require some further changes not only the change of the
revision number of red5.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today,
so I would have expected that I had the most recent version, which
agrees with the revision shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log,
however it would seem that the red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I
am still experiencing this issue (and also the '5 second "Start
recording test" does not play back' issue)? Or is there a later
revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so, then maybe the OM
2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that is if Rev: 4380 is
the older version) as I am still experiencing these issues.
2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO
org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (
http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
As stated above, I also find that the 5 second "Start
recording test" does not play back. It actually worked once, the first
time, but since then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio
recording. Now I only see the video while it is being recorded, but not
on play back. I have attached log files, created just after I press the
play button after recording the 5 second "Start recording test". I am
guessing that these two are related issues. Is there any way these
problems can be solved?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:
seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of
rapid changes
Hi George,
indeed the problem you describe should have been already
solved.
It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it
should be already solved.
When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision
is printed in your console log?
There should be something like this around Line 100 of
jvmstd.out (file produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (
http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed
on a Debian 32 bit server.
svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0#
<mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0>
/usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant -Ddb=mysql
When I record a conference meeting and then try to play
it back, I only get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the
background?). If I move to a new menu item, I get a black "video
window" in the "front" everything else that should be on the screen. I
have inserted an screen shot to show you what it looks like. Can other
people reproduce this issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI
or the FLV file, VLC player plays the recorded video quite well, just I
am unable to view it by the "Recordings" menu option in OpenMeetings.
I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a
previous issue that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing
in a Calendar Event meeting and this has worked well for me.
/usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the
video. There are not log entries for when I select "play" to play the
selected video.
parentPath = null
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839
141 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843
268 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843
322 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843
359 org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0#
<mailto:root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0> ls -al
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
total 56296
drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.fla
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06
flvRecording_1.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55
flvRecording_1.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05
flvRecording_2.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04
flvRecording_2.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07
flvRecording_3.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02
flvRecording_3.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29
one_second.wav
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.
meta
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
modified="1341813740000">
<KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>
<KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>
<KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>
<KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>
<KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>
</FrameMetadata>
I noticed that as you said, "I tried to set up a new
Jenkins build job ... unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems
to be currently buggy", and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully
compile the 2.0 trunk.
Permalinks
* Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
* Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
* Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/
>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:
seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of
rapid changes
Hi George,
you are right there are recently a number of changes
committed, however trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk
(but not any new features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be
released. We will continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a
new Jenkins build job:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to
be currently buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there
should be one maybe tomorrow morning.
If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please
report it to our list and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our
release candidate.
About some test - scenarios:
There have been attempts in the past to have such a list
of standard tests:
http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
And for the recording features a more detailed one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Applic
ation+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with
more tests. I think one major task before we do start to write down
those tests we would need to find a consens on a person responsible for
the tests. Or maybe we even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
You think you would like to be that person?
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0
latest revision, there is something that was working before but is now
broken. I understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but
some stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are
using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.
Is the following suggestion possible?
1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings
which has everyone's change being applied to it.
2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
(i.e. Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set
of basic testing.
3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that
OpenMeetings can be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded
into Jenkins ? OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly
basis? More frequently if people have time to go though the tests.
Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development
and a stable version every so often which has been though some form of
complete feature testing?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de
<http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de
<http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de
<http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
<http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot
play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
please do an SVN update of the 2.0 branch and run:
ant clean.all
followed with
ant -Ddb=mysql dist
I think those red5 related issues should be solved then.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> oops,
>
> I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
> As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct
> reference:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/build.properties
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
> you need to run
>> ant clean.all
>> if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the script
>> to freshly checkout the red5 components.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
>>>
>>> You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it might
>>> require some further changes not only the change of the revision number of
>>> red5.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>>> Sebastian,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I would have
>>>> expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees with the revision
>>>> shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that the
>>>> red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still experiencing this issue
>>>> (and also the ‘5 second “Start recording test” does not play back’ issue)?
>>>> Or is there a later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If
>>>> so, then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that
>>>> is if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still experiencing these
>>>> issues.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> 2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5
>>>> Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start recording test”
>>>> does not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but since
>>>> then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now I only
>>>> see the video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have
>>>> attached log files, created just after I press the play button after
>>>> recording the 5 second “Start recording test”. I am guessing that these
>>>> two are related issues. Is there any way these problems can be solved?
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
>>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Hi George,
>>>>
>>>> indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
>>>> It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be
>>>> already solved.
>>>>
>>>> When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in
>>>> your console log?
>>>> There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file
>>>> produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
>>>> Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian****
>>>>
>>>> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian,****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32
>>>> bit server.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> svn checkout
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
>>>> -Ddb=mysql****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
>>>> get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I
>>>> move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front”
>>>> everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
>>>> shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
>>>> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
>>>> player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by
>>>> the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue
>>>> that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar
>>>> Event meeting and this has worked well for me.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are
>>>> not log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> parentPath = null****
>>>>
>>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
>>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde****
>>>>
>>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
>>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
>>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>>>
>>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
>>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
>>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
>>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
>>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>>>
>>>> total 56296****
>>>>
>>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .****
>>>>
>>>> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
>>>> default_interview_image.fla****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
>>>> default_interview_image.jpg****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
>>>> default_interview_image.png****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06
>>>> flvRecording_1.flv.meta****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05
>>>> flvRecording_2.flv.meta****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07
>>>> flvRecording_3.flv.meta****
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>****
>>>>
>>>> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
>>>> modified="1341813740000">****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>****
>>>>
>>>> </FrameMetadata>****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> [image: cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990]****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job
>>>> … unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”,
>>>> and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.
>>>> ****
>>>> Permalinks****
>>>>
>>>> - Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
>>>> ****
>>>> - Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
>>>> ****
>>>> - Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
>>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Hi George,
>>>>
>>>> you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
>>>> trunk is now version 2.1.
>>>> I've set up a new SVN branch:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>>>>
>>>> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any
>>>> new features).
>>>> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
>>>> continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
>>>> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins
>>>> build job:
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
>>>> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
>>>> buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
>>>> tomorrow morning.
>>>>
>>>> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our
>>>> list and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
>>>>
>>>> About some test - scenarios:
>>>> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard
>>>> tests:
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
>>>> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I
>>>> think one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would
>>>> need to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we
>>>> even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
>>>> You think you would like to be that person?
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian****
>>>>
>>>> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian,****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest
>>>> revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken. I
>>>> understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some
>>>> stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing
>>>> OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
>>>> everyone’s change being applied to it.****
>>>>
>>>> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
>>>> for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can
>>>> be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
>>>> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
>>>> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
>>>> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
>>>> testing?****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot
play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
oops,
I have posted the reference to the wrong file in the SVN.
As you should be using the 2.0 branch this file would be the correct
reference:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/build.properties
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> you need to run
> ant clean.all
> if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the script
> to freshly checkout the red5 components.
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
> Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
>>
>> You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it might
>> require some further changes not only the change of the revision number of
>> red5.
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>
>>> Sebastian,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I would have
>>> expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees with the revision
>>> shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that the
>>> red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still experiencing this issue
>>> (and also the ‘5 second “Start recording test” does not play back’ issue)?
>>> Or is there a later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so,
>>> then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that is
>>> if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still experiencing these issues.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> 2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5
>>> Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start recording test”
>>> does not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but since
>>> then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now I only
>>> see the video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have
>>> attached log files, created just after I press the play button after
>>> recording the 5 second “Start recording test”. I am guessing that these
>>> two are related issues. Is there any way these problems can be solved?*
>>> ***
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> George Kirkham****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes*
>>> ***
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
>>> It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be
>>> already solved.
>>>
>>> When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in
>>> your console log?
>>> There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file
>>> produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
>>> Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>>>
>>> Sebastian****
>>>
>>> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>>
>>> Sebastian,****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32
>>> bit server.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> svn checkout
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
>>> -Ddb=mysql****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
>>> get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I
>>> move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front”
>>> everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
>>> shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
>>> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
>>> player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by
>>> the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue
>>> that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar
>>> Event meeting and this has worked well for me.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are
>>> not log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> parentPath = null****
>>>
>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde****
>>>
>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>>
>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg*
>>> ***
>>>
>>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
>>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>>
>>> total 56296****
>>>
>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .****
>>>
>>> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
>>> default_interview_image.fla****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
>>> default_interview_image.jpg****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
>>> default_interview_image.png****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06 flvRecording_1.flv.meta
>>> ****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05 flvRecording_2.flv.meta
>>> ****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07 flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>>> ****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg****
>>>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>****
>>>
>>> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
>>> modified="1341813740000">****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>****
>>>
>>> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>****
>>>
>>> </FrameMetadata>****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990]****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job
>>> … unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”,
>>> and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.*
>>> ***
>>> Permalinks****
>>>
>>> - Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
>>> ****
>>> - Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
>>> ****
>>> - Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> George Kirkham****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes*
>>> ***
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
>>> trunk is now version 2.1.
>>> I've set up a new SVN branch:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>>>
>>> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
>>> features).
>>> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
>>> continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
>>> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins
>>> build job:
>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
>>> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
>>> buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
>>> tomorrow morning.
>>>
>>> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
>>> and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
>>>
>>> About some test - scenarios:
>>> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard
>>> tests:
>>> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
>>> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>>>
>>> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I
>>> think one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would
>>> need to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we
>>> even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
>>> You think you would like to be that person?
>>>
>>> Sebastian****
>>>
>>> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>>
>>> Sebastian,****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest
>>> revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken. I
>>> understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some
>>> stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing
>>> OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
>>> everyone’s change being applied to it.****
>>>
>>> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
>>> for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can
>>> be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
>>> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
>>> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
>>> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
>>> testing?****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> George Kirkham****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot
play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
you need to run
ant clean.all
if you want to change the red5 revision in the build and force the script
to freshly checkout the red5 components.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
>
> You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it might
> require some further changes not only the change of the revision number of
> red5.
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>> Sebastian,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I would have
>> expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees with the revision
>> shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that the
>> red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still experiencing this issue
>> (and also the ‘5 second “Start recording test” does not play back’ issue)?
>> Or is there a later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so,
>> then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that is
>> if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still experiencing these issues.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5
>> Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start recording test”
>> does not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but since
>> then it does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now I only
>> see the video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have
>> attached log files, created just after I press the play button after
>> recording the 5 second “Start recording test”. I am guessing that these
>> two are related issues. Is there any way these problems can be solved?**
>> **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes**
>> **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
>> It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be already
>> solved.
>>
>> When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in
>> your console log?
>> There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file
>> produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
>> Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>>
>> Sebastian****
>>
>> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>
>> Sebastian,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32 bit
>> server.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> svn checkout
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
>> -Ddb=mysql****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
>> get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I
>> move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front”
>> everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
>> shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
>> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
>> player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by
>> the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue
>> that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar
>> Event meeting and this has worked well for me.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are
>> not log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> parentPath = null****
>>
>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde****
>>
>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>
>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg**
>> **
>>
>> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
>> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
>> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>>
>> total 56296****
>>
>> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .****
>>
>> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
>> default_interview_image.fla****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
>> default_interview_image.jpg****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
>> default_interview_image.png****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06 flvRecording_1.flv.meta
>> ****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05 flvRecording_2.flv.meta
>> ****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07 flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>> ****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg****
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav****
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>****
>>
>> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
>> modified="1341813740000">****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>****
>>
>> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>****
>>
>> </FrameMetadata>****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990]****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job …
>> unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”,
>> and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.**
>> **
>> Permalinks****
>>
>> - Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
>> ****
>> - Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
>> ****
>> - Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes**
>> **
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
>> trunk is now version 2.1.
>> I've set up a new SVN branch:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>>
>> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
>> features).
>> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
>> continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
>> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins build
>> job:
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
>> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
>> buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
>> tomorrow morning.
>>
>> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
>> and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
>>
>> About some test - scenarios:
>> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard
>> tests:
>> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
>> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>>
>> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I think
>> one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would need
>> to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even
>> call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
>> You think you would like to be that person?
>>
>> Sebastian****
>>
>> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>>
>> Sebastian,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision,
>> there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand
>> that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be
>> greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0
>> in production.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
>> everyone’s change being applied to it.****
>>
>> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
>> for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
>> ****
>>
>> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be
>> tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
>> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
>> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
>> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
>> testing?****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: 5 second "Start recording test" does not play back and cannot
play meeting room screen recordings
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Actually the build file is configured to use 4385
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/build.properties
You might try to change those properties to use 4388, however it might
require some further changes not only the change of the revision number of
red5.
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> Since I checked out the OpenMeetings 2.0 source today, so I would have
> expected that I had the most recent version, which agrees with the revision
> shown below from /usr/lib/red5/log/red5.log, however it would seem that the
> red5 issue has not been fixed as yet as I am still experiencing this issue
> (and also the ‘5 second “Start recording test” does not play back’ issue)?
> Or is there a later revision of the red5 server than Rev: 4380 ? If so,
> then maybe the OM 2.0 trunk is still picking up an older version (that is
> if Rev: 4380 is the older version) as I am still experiencing these issues.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> 2012-07-09 14:45:21,161 [main] INFO org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5
> Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> As stated above, I also find that the 5 second “Start recording test” does
> not play back. It actually worked once, the first time, but since then it
> does not play back the 5 second video/audio recording. Now I only see the
> video while it is being recorded, but not on play back. I have attached log
> files, created just after I press the play button after recording the 5
> second “Start recording test”. I am guessing that these two are related
> issues. Is there any way these problems can be solved?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 July 2012 6:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Hi George,
>
> indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
> It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be already
> solved.
>
> When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in
> your console log?
> There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file
> produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
> Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
>
> Sebastian****
>
> 2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32 bit
> server.****
>
> ****
>
> svn checkout
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/****
>
> ****
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
> -Ddb=mysql****
>
> ****
>
> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
> get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I
> move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front”
> everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
> shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
> player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by
> the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.****
>
> ****
>
> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue that
> I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar Event
> meeting and this has worked well for me.****
>
> ****
>
> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are not
> log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.****
>
> ****
>
> parentPath = null****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg***
> *
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0****
>
> ****
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>
> total 56296****
>
> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .****
>
> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.fla****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.png****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06 flvRecording_1.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05 flvRecording_2.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07 flvRecording_3.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav****
>
> ****
>
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
> ****
>
> ****
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>****
>
> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205" modified="1341813740000">
> ****
>
> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>****
>
> </FrameMetadata>****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990]****
>
> ****
>
> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job …
> unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”,
> and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.***
> *
> Permalinks****
>
> - Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
> ****
> - Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
> ****
> - Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes***
> *
>
> ****
>
> Hi George,
>
> you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
> trunk is now version 2.1.
> I've set up a new SVN branch:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>
> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
> features).
> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
> continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins build
> job:
> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
> buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
> tomorrow morning.
>
> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
> and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
>
> About some test - scenarios:
> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard tests:
> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>
> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I think
> one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would need
> to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even
> call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
> You think you would like to be that person?
>
> Sebastian****
>
> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision,
> there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand
> that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be
> greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0
> in production.****
>
> ****
>
> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>
> ****
>
> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
> everyone’s change being applied to it.****
>
> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
> for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
> ****
>
> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be
> tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>
> ****
>
> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
> testing?****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
indeed the problem you describe should have been already solved.
It is a red5 related issue not OpenMeetings. However it should be already
solved.
When you do startup your red5 service what red5 revision is printed in your
console log?
There should be something like this around Line 100 of jvmstd.out (file
produced when you start using red5-highperf.sh):
Red5 Server 1.0.0 RC3 $Rev: 4380 $ (http://code.google.com/p/red5/)
Sebastian
2012/7/9 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32 bit
> server.****
>
> ** **
>
> svn checkout
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/****
>
> ** **
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
> -Ddb=mysql****
>
> ** **
>
> When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
> get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If I
> move to a new menu item, I get a black “video window” in the “front”
> everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
> shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
> issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
> player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it by
> the “Recordings” menu option in OpenMeetings.****
>
> ** **
>
> I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue that
> I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar Event
> meeting and this has worked well for me.****
>
> ** **
>
> /usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are not
> log entries for when I select “play” to play the selected video.****
>
> ** **
>
> parentPath = null****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg***
> *
>
> DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
> org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
> [http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0****
>
> ** **
>
> root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/****
>
> total 56296****
>
> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .****
>
> drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.fla****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
> default_interview_image.png****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06 flvRecording_1.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05 flvRecording_2.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07 flvRecording_3.flv.meta*
> ***
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg****
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav****
>
> ** **
>
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.meta
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>****
>
> <FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205" modified="1341813740000">
> ****
>
> <KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>****
>
> <KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>****
>
> </FrameMetadata>****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01CD5DE9.46389990]****
>
> ** **
>
> I noticed that as you said, “I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job …
> unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently buggy”,
> and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0 trunk.***
> *
> Permalinks****
>
> - Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
> ****
> - Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
> ****
> - Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Hi George,
>
> you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
> trunk is now version 2.1.
> I've set up a new SVN branch:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
>
> This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
> features).
> This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
> continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
> I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins build
> job:
> https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
> but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
> buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
> tomorrow morning.
>
> If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
> and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
>
> About some test - scenarios:
> There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard tests:
> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
> And for the recording features a more detailed one:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
>
> Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I think
> one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would need
> to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even
> call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
> You think you would like to be that person?
>
> Sebastian****
>
> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision,
> there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand
> that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be
> greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0
> in production.****
>
> ****
>
> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>
> ****
>
> 1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
> everyone’s change being applied to it.****
>
> 2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
> for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
> ****
>
> 3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be
> tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>
> ****
>
> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
> testing?****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
RE: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
I have checked out 2.0 and compiled and then installed on a Debian 32
bit server.
svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# /usr/adm/apache-ant-1.8.4/bin/ant
-Ddb=mysql
When I record a conference meeting and then try to play it back, I only
get a black screen (maybe it is still rendering in the background?). If
I move to a new menu item, I get a black "video window" in the "front"
everything else that should be on the screen. I have inserted an screen
shot to show you what it looks like. Can other people reproduce this
issue, or am I the only one? If I download the AVI or the FLV file, VLC
player plays the recorded video quite well, just I am unable to view it
by the "Recordings" menu option in OpenMeetings.
I will do other tests when I get the chance. As for a previous issue
that I had, I have tested invitations and screen sharing in a Calendar
Event meeting and this has worked well for me.
/usr/lib/red5/openmeetings.log for when I select the video. There are
not log entries for when I select "play" to play the selected video.
parentPath = null
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.529 DownloadHandler.java 4895839 141
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - sid: 3af59e8fff8bca6b32889c4016748dde
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 268
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - requestedFile: flvRecording_3.jpg current_dir:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 322
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - full_path:
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.jpg
DEBUG 07-09 16:07:03.533 DownloadHandler.java 4895843 359
org.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.DownloadHandler
[http-0.0.0.0-5080-2] - Detected browser type:0
root@OpenMeetings:/usr/adm/om20/2.0# ls -al
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/
total 56296
drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 16:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody root 4096 Jul 9 15:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 20992 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.fla
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1827 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 1106 Jul 9 14:29
default_interview_image.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 6932146 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 5511239 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 494 Jul 9 15:06
flvRecording_1.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 73375 Jul 9 14:55 flvRecording_1.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 14804694 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 11387107 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 972 Jul 9 15:05
flvRecording_2.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 94447 Jul 9 15:04 flvRecording_2.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 10337888 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 8135766 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.flv
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 705 Jul 9 16:07
flvRecording_3.flv.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 98462 Jul 9 16:02 flvRecording_3.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root 88244 Jul 9 14:29 one_second.wav
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/hibernate/flvRecording_3.flv.
meta
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FrameMetadata audioOnly="false" duration="61205"
modified="1341813740000">
<KeyFrame position="443" timestamp="0"/>
<KeyFrame position="694854" timestamp="6000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2240057" timestamp="12000"/>
<KeyFrame position="2931726" timestamp="18000"/>
<KeyFrame position="3622454" timestamp="24000"/>
<KeyFrame position="4313880" timestamp="30000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5005003" timestamp="36000"/>
<KeyFrame position="5695312" timestamp="42000"/>
<KeyFrame position="6388377" timestamp="48000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7078640" timestamp="54000"/>
<KeyFrame position="7781100" timestamp="60000"/>
</FrameMetadata>
I noticed that as you said, "I tried to set up a new Jenkins build job
... unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
buggy", and so Jenkins has not been able to successfully compile the 2.0
trunk.
Permalinks
* Last build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastBuild/>
* Last failed build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastFailedBuild/>
* Last unsuccessful build (#7), 4 hr 49 min ago
<https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/lastUnsuccessfulBuild/
>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:11 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Hi George,
you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will
continue to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins
build job:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one
maybe tomorrow morning.
If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
About some test - scenarios:
There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard
tests:
http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
And for the recording features a more detailed one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Applic
ation+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I
think one major task before we do start to write down those tests we
would need to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or
maybe we even call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
You think you would like to be that person?
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Sebastian,
I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest
revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken.
I understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some
stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are
using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.
Is the following suggestion possible?
1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
everyone's change being applied to it.
2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins)
for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic
testing.
3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be
tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
frequently if people have time to go though the tests.
Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
version every so often which has been though some form of complete
feature testing?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
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https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
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Re: OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
you are right there are recently a number of changes committed, however
trunk is now version 2.1.
I've set up a new SVN branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/branches/2.0/
This is based on RC3 + contains only bug fixes of trunk (but not any new
features).
This branch is the 2.0 tree that is likely to be released. We will continue
to fix only Bugfixes here.
I would invite you to test this ... I tried to set up a new Jenkins build
job:
https://builds.apache.org/job/Openmeetings%202.0/
but unfortunately Apache's Build Infrastructure seems to be currently
buggy, so there that is no build ready yet. But there should be one maybe
tomorrow morning.
If you see any bugs or issue in that branch please report it to our list
and we will try to fix it asap to have it in our release candidate.
About some test - scenarios:
There have been attempts in the past to have such a list of standard tests:
http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/QualityAssurance
And for the recording features a more detailed one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/WebStart+Application+for+Screensharing+and+Recording
Feel free to extend the "QualityAssurance" paper with more tests. I think
one major task before we do start to write down those tests we would need
to find a consens on a person responsible for the tests. Or maybe we even
call it "Quality assurance executive" :)
You think you would like to be that person?
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision,
> there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand
> that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be
> greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0
> in production.****
>
> ** **
>
> Is the following suggestion possible? ****
>
> ** **
>
> **1) **Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has
> everyone’s change being applied to it.
>
> ****
>
> **2) **Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e.
> Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic
> testing.
>
> ****
>
> **3) **Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can
> be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ?
> OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More
> frequently if people have time to go though the tests. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable
> version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature
> testing?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
OpenMeetings stability during this time of rapid changes
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
I quite often find that when I download OpenMeetings 2.0 latest revision, there is something that was working before but is now broken. I understand that we are doing a lot of updates and changes but some stability would be greatly appreciated by those of us who are using/testing OpenMeetings 2.0 in production.
Is the following suggestion possible?
1) Use svn to get the latest copy of OpenMeetings which has everyone’s change being applied to it.
2) Use https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/ (i.e. Jenkins) for getting a copy of OpenMeetings that has pasted a set of basic testing.
3) Have a set of basic tests documented so that OpenMeetings can be tested against this set of tests before it is loaded into Jenkins ? OpenMeetings could be uploaded to Jenkins on a monthly basis? More frequently if people have time to go though the tests.
Maybe there are other ways to manage rapid development and a stable version every so often which has been though some form of complete feature testing?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
Re: Improvements to the User Interface
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I would vote from 1) (I don't really like drop downs consist of 1 element
:) )
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> I am just a committer and PPMC with same rights then you so whatever is on
> the agenda and finds a majority can be on the Roadmap.
>
> I leave the other points open about the right landing page. I just think
> the landing page for the user could be parameterized. From a project point
> of view I just think that it would be good to have a place where we can
> show news about the project or useful information for the user in general.
>
> I think for the Chat we could think about a modification like that:
> Make the Chat box a permanent UI element on the bottom that is minimized
> by default but that does not change no matter where you go, as long as you
> do not enter a concrete conference room. You can find the same on Google or
> Facebook on the bottom with the chat.
> I think that could be quite handy so that you can chat and interact with
> other people right before you decide in which conference room you go.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> 2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>> Sebastian,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have been wanting to ask if people would be OK to discuss some
>> restructuring to user interface.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> While the Conference meeting room layouts are excellent, our users have
>> plenty of problems logging in and joining a room, so I would like to
>> suggest possible improvements.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Some of my suggestions for example;****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **1) **The “Rooms” menu has one selection “Rooms”, which seems very
>> pointless. Better if it had “Public Rooms”, “Private rooms”, “My Rooms”.
>> Then the user could select to enter directly to a specific rooms type tab.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **2) **Personally I see no point to the “Dashboard” and would like
>> this removed or become a selectable option.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **3) **I would like any user logging in, to go straight to their
>> “Private rooms” tab from where they could select which room they wanted to
>> enter. Most of our users only log in to join in a meeting for their Group
>> (i.e. a private room)
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **4) **The “Home” menu could have “Chat”, “Contacts and messages”,
>> “My Profile”, “Recordings” and “Logout” as its options. “Contacts and
>> messages” and “Profile” should be removed from the top right menu
>> selections, but I don’t mind “Logout” and “Report a bug” staying there.
>> If there is a use for the dashboard, then this could be a menu item of the
>> “Home” menu as it is now, but not the first screen a user gets when they
>> log in.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **5) **I have wondered if the Chat tab should be part of the rooms
>> tabs, but since it is not a room type, then that does not make sense either.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
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Maxim aka solomax
Re: Improvements to the User Interface
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
I am just a committer and PPMC with same rights then you so whatever is on
the agenda and finds a majority can be on the Roadmap.
I leave the other points open about the right landing page. I just think
the landing page for the user could be parameterized. From a project point
of view I just think that it would be good to have a place where we can
show news about the project or useful information for the user in general.
I think for the Chat we could think about a modification like that:
Make the Chat box a permanent UI element on the bottom that is minimized by
default but that does not change no matter where you go, as long as you do
not enter a concrete conference room. You can find the same on Google or
Facebook on the bottom with the chat.
I think that could be quite handy so that you can chat and interact with
other people right before you decide in which conference room you go.
Sebastian
2012/7/8 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I have been wanting to ask if people would be OK to discuss some
> restructuring to user interface.****
>
> ** **
>
> While the Conference meeting room layouts are excellent, our users have
> plenty of problems logging in and joining a room, so I would like to
> suggest possible improvements.****
>
> ** **
>
> Some of my suggestions for example;****
>
> ** **
>
> **1) **The “Rooms” menu has one selection “Rooms”, which seems very
> pointless. Better if it had “Public Rooms”, “Private rooms”, “My Rooms”.
> Then the user could select to enter directly to a specific rooms type tab.
>
> ****
>
> **2) **Personally I see no point to the “Dashboard” and would like
> this removed or become a selectable option.
>
> ****
>
> **3) **I would like any user logging in, to go straight to their
> “Private rooms” tab from where they could select which room they wanted to
> enter. Most of our users only log in to join in a meeting for their Group
> (i.e. a private room)
>
> ****
>
> **4) **The “Home” menu could have “Chat”, “Contacts and messages”,
> “My Profile”, “Recordings” and “Logout” as its options. “Contacts and
> messages” and “Profile” should be removed from the top right menu
> selections, but I don’t mind “Logout” and “Report a bug” staying there.
> If there is a use for the dashboard, then this could be a menu item of the
> “Home” menu as it is now, but not the first screen a user gets when they
> log in.
>
> ****
>
> **5) **I have wondered if the Chat tab should be part of the rooms
> tabs, but since it is not a room type, then that does not make sense either.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Improvements to the User Interface
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
I have been wanting to ask if people would be OK to discuss some restructuring to user interface.
While the Conference meeting room layouts are excellent, our users have plenty of problems logging in and joining a room, so I would like to suggest possible improvements.
Some of my suggestions for example;
1) The “Rooms” menu has one selection “Rooms”, which seems very pointless. Better if it had “Public Rooms”, “Private rooms”, “My Rooms”. Then the user could select to enter directly to a specific rooms type tab.
2) Personally I see no point to the “Dashboard” and would like this removed or become a selectable option.
3) I would like any user logging in, to go straight to their “Private rooms” tab from where they could select which room they wanted to enter. Most of our users only log in to join in a meeting for their Group (i.e. a private room)
4) The “Home” menu could have “Chat”, “Contacts and messages”, “My Profile”, “Recordings” and “Logout” as its options. “Contacts and messages” and “Profile” should be removed from the top right menu selections, but I don’t mind “Logout” and “Report a bug” staying there. If there is a use for the dashboard, then this could be a menu item of the “Home” menu as it is now, but not the first screen a user gets when they log in.
5) I have wondered if the Chat tab should be part of the rooms tabs, but since it is not a room type, then that does not make sense either.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Hi Sebastian:
Thank you. I am glad I made the survey too. I could of course modify it if
necessary. I think it would be helpful if you can publicize it in any way
possible because the more users who respond, the more representative the
information will be.
My reason for creating the survey is that I am working with a development
team to set up a customized OM service which I hope to market to specific
professionals in my geographic area. I am doing a number of different types
of market research to determine which types of professionals are most
likely to use an online meeting service/web conference system.
I would also like to know which features are most important to users and
which aspects of the system that users are either unhappy with or would
like to add to their system.
So my personal reason for doing this is to hopefully develop a new line of
business which allows my company to provide a custom-tailored solution
specifically optimized for certain uses of OM.
However, I believe this kind of survey information could also be of value
to the larger OM community, and I will be happy to share my findings, as a
way of giving back to the community.
I hope this answers some of your questions. Please feel free to ask me for
more information or provide me with a list of additional questions.
Best.
Dan
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> glad you made it :)
> I could try to post a new blog article about it.
> That could gather some more attention to it.
>
> But I would need some more background information about the survey to make
> a nice article.
> Dan, can you explain some of the reasons for the survey?
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/7 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>
>> Thanks Alexei! I am glad to be able to help the OM community, at least in
>> a small way. We currently only have 10 responses, so I hope we can get many
>> more people to respond and gather more useful information.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Nice survey. Would definitely help defining the roadmap. Thanks, Daniel.
>>> 06.07.2012 23:56 пользователь "Daniel Ascher" <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>>> написал:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone:
>>>>
>>>> Please Complete the OpenMeetings User Survey Below:
>>>>
>>>> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it
>>>> out online:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dG1DTXQyVHg2T09RMU1tNTBleExKeWc6MQ
>>>>
>>>> Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
>>>>
>>>> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
>>>> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings
>>>> User Group.
>>>>
>>>> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
>>>> apply
>>>>
>>>> - Virtual Meetings
>>>> - Teaching
>>>> - Training
>>>> - Sales
>>>> - Project Collaboration
>>>> - Demonstration
>>>> - Other:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more
>>>> specifically how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide
>>>> more detail about your use case
>>>>
>>>> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings
>>>> meeting your needs for this type of service? 1 2 3 4 5 Very Unsatisfied Very
>>>> Satisfied
>>>>
>>>> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
>>>> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
>>>>
>>>> - Ease of Use
>>>> - Audio/Video Quality
>>>> - Whiteboard
>>>> - Onscreen Document Collaboration
>>>> - Screen or Application Sharing
>>>> - Other:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which one of the following features is most important to you?
>>>>
>>>> - Shared Whiteboard
>>>> - Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
>>>> - Ability to Record Sessions
>>>> - Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
>>>> - Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
>>>> - Other:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
>>>> OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
>>>>
>>>> - Data Encryption
>>>> - Math Editor
>>>> - Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
>>>> - App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
>>>> - Other:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
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President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan,
glad you made it :)
I could try to post a new blog article about it.
That could gather some more attention to it.
But I would need some more background information about the survey to make
a nice article.
Dan, can you explain some of the reasons for the survey?
Thanks!
Sebastian
2012/7/7 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> Thanks Alexei! I am glad to be able to help the OM community, at least in
> a small way. We currently only have 10 responses, so I hope we can get many
> more people to respond and gather more useful information.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Nice survey. Would definitely help defining the roadmap. Thanks, Daniel.
>> 06.07.2012 23:56 пользователь "Daniel Ascher" <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>> написал:
>>
>> Hi everyone:
>>>
>>> Please Complete the OpenMeetings User Survey Below:
>>>
>>> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out
>>> online:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dG1DTXQyVHg2T09RMU1tNTBleExKeWc6MQ
>>>
>>> Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
>>>
>>> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
>>> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings
>>> User Group.
>>>
>>> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
>>> apply
>>>
>>> - Virtual Meetings
>>> - Teaching
>>> - Training
>>> - Sales
>>> - Project Collaboration
>>> - Demonstration
>>> - Other:
>>>
>>>
>>> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more
>>> specifically how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide
>>> more detail about your use case
>>>
>>> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings
>>> meeting your needs for this type of service? 1 2 3 4 5 Very Unsatisfied Very
>>> Satisfied
>>>
>>> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
>>> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
>>>
>>> - Ease of Use
>>> - Audio/Video Quality
>>> - Whiteboard
>>> - Onscreen Document Collaboration
>>> - Screen or Application Sharing
>>> - Other:
>>>
>>>
>>> Which one of the following features is most important to you?
>>>
>>> - Shared Whiteboard
>>> - Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
>>> - Ability to Record Sessions
>>> - Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
>>> - Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
>>> - Other:
>>>
>>>
>>> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
>>> OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
>>>
>>> - Data Encryption
>>> - Math Editor
>>> - Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
>>> - App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
>>> - Other:
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
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Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks Alexei! I am glad to be able to help the OM community, at least in a
small way. We currently only have 10 responses, so I hope we can get many
more people to respond and gather more useful information.
Dan
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Nice survey. Would definitely help defining the roadmap. Thanks, Daniel.
> 06.07.2012 23:56 пользователь "Daniel Ascher" <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> написал:
>
> Hi everyone:
>>
>> Please Complete the OpenMeetings User Survey Below:
>>
>> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out
>> online:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dG1DTXQyVHg2T09RMU1tNTBleExKeWc6MQ
>>
>> Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
>>
>> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
>> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings User
>> Group.
>>
>> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
>> apply
>>
>> - Virtual Meetings
>> - Teaching
>> - Training
>> - Sales
>> - Project Collaboration
>> - Demonstration
>> - Other:
>>
>>
>> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more
>> specifically how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide
>> more detail about your use case
>>
>> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings
>> meeting your needs for this type of service? 1 2 3 4 5 Very Unsatisfied Very
>> Satisfied
>>
>> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
>> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
>>
>> - Ease of Use
>> - Audio/Video Quality
>> - Whiteboard
>> - Onscreen Document Collaboration
>> - Screen or Application Sharing
>> - Other:
>>
>>
>> Which one of the following features is most important to you?
>>
>> - Shared Whiteboard
>> - Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
>> - Ability to Record Sessions
>> - Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
>> - Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
>> - Other:
>>
>>
>> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
>> OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
>>
>> - Data Encryption
>> - Math Editor
>> - Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
>> - App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
>> - Other:
>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Nice survey. Would definitely help defining the roadmap. Thanks, Daniel.
06.07.2012 23:56 пользователь "Daniel Ascher" <da...@aplustutoring.com>
написал:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Please Complete the OpenMeetings User Survey Below:
>
> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out
> online:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dG1DTXQyVHg2T09RMU1tNTBleExKeWc6MQ
>
> Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
>
> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings is
> being used. *This information will be shared* with the OpenMeetings User
> Group.
>
> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that apply
>
> - Virtual Meetings
> - Teaching
> - Training
> - Sales
> - Project Collaboration
> - Demonstration
> - Other:
>
>
> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more specifically
> how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide more detail
> about your use case
>
> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings meeting
> your needs for this type of service? 1 2 3 4 5 Very Unsatisfied Very
> Satisfied
>
> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
>
> - Ease of Use
> - Audio/Video Quality
> - Whiteboard
> - Onscreen Document Collaboration
> - Screen or Application Sharing
> - Other:
>
>
> Which one of the following features is most important to you?
>
> - Shared Whiteboard
> - Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
> - Ability to Record Sessions
> - Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
> - Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
> - Other:
>
>
> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
> OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
>
> - Data Encryption
> - Math Editor
> - Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
> - App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
> - Other:
>
>
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>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
Re: Please respond: Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
Posted by Tom Judge <ju...@learnubuntu.org>.
see below
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On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 15:55 -0400, Daniel Ascher wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Please Complete the OpenMeetings User Survey Below:
>
> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it
> out online:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dG1DTXQyVHg2T09RMU1tNTBleExKeWc6MQ
>
> Open Meetings Use Cases Survey
> This survey is designed to gather information about how OpenMeetings
> is being used. This information will be shared with the OpenMeetings
> User Group.
>
> What is your main purpose for using OpenMeetings? * Choose all that
> apply
> * Virtual Meetings
> * Teaching
> * Training
> * Sales
> * Project Collaboration
> * Demonstration
> * Other:
>
> Based upon your answer to Question #1, please describe more
> specifically how you are using OpenMeetings This question will provide
> more detail about your use case
>
> How satisfied are you with OpenMeetings overall? Is OpenMeetings
> meeting your needs for this type of service?
>
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
>
> Very
> Unsatisfied
>
>
>
>
>
> Very
> Satisfied
>
> Please answer the question "I am DISSATISFIED with the following
> features of OpenMeetings" Choose all that apply
> * Ease of Use
> * Audio/Video Quality
> * Whiteboard
> * Onscreen Document Collaboration
> * Screen or Application Sharing
> * Other:
>
> Which one of the following features is most important to you?
> * Shared Whiteboard
> * Sharing Files with Meeting Participants
> * Ability to Record Sessions
> * Ability to see Webcam Image of Participants
> * Persistent/Dedicated Meeting Rooms
> * Other:
>
> Which of the following features would you like to be added to
> OpenMeetings? Choose all that apply
> * Data Encryption
> * Math Editor
> * Ability to Collaboratively Edit Documents within OpenMeetings
> * App Sharing Not Requiring User to Download Anything
> * Other:
>
>
>
> Powered by Google Docs Report Abuse - Terms of Service - Additional
> Terms
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com