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Posted to dev@corinthia.apache.org by Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> on 2015/03/25 17:13:40 UTC
IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online Document Editing
https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-working-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-to-google-apps-office-365/
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Dr Peter M. Kelly
pmkelly@apache.org
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Re: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online Document Editing
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Sunday, March 29, 2015, Franz de Copenhague <
franzdecopenhague@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:16 AM
> > To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online
> > Document Editing
> >
> > On 25 March 2015 at 17:23, Peter Kelly <pmkelly@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > > On 25 Mar 2015, at 11:13 pm, Peter Kelly <pmkelly@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-worki
> > > ng-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-t
> > > o-google-apps-office-365/
> > > <
> > > https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-worki
> > > ng-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-t
> > > o-google-apps-office-365/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Some more technical details here:
> > >
> > > https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.
> > > html
> > > <
> > > https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.
> > > html
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think both approaches are useful, for different scenarios. Theirs is
> > > best for fidelity - that is, it will present a visual representation
> > > of the document that, from what I understand, will be identical to
> > > what you would see in LibreOffice itself. It does however rely very
> > > heavily on the server side to implement a large proportion of the
> editing
> > logic.
> > >
> > You are right, but be aware this is part of a bigger plan to provide a
> new
> > framework for LibreOffice, a framework suitable for use on web as well as
> > modern devices like tablets.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Our approach (using HTML for rendering) provides less fidelity (in the
> > > sense of a LO/OO rendered version of a document being the
> > “authoritative”
> > > rendering - though this depends on your needs, particularly if you’re
> > > focused on content rather than presentation). However our advantage is
> > > that
> > > *all* of the editing logic resides on the client, and we only need to
> > > talk to the server for document conversion and loading/saving purposes.
> > >
> > We take the simple, but limited, aproach...to be honest I prefer that to
> flying
> > high.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i.
> >
>
> So far, I am seeing features like creating thumbnail preview of docx, odt
> documents. Translation of documents and others that is not required to
> honor 100% of formatting.
Interesting, is that ideas we should pick up on and do server side?
should we start a wiki page with ideas?
rgds
jan i
>
> franz
>
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RE: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online Document Editing
Posted by Franz de Copenhague <fr...@outlook.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:16 AM
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online
> Document Editing
>
> On 25 March 2015 at 17:23, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > > On 25 Mar 2015, at 11:13 pm, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-worki
> > ng-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-t
> > o-google-apps-office-365/
> > <
> > https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-worki
> > ng-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-t
> > o-google-apps-office-365/
> > >
> >
> > Some more technical details here:
> >
> > https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.
> > html
> > <
> > https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.
> > html
> > >
> >
> > I think both approaches are useful, for different scenarios. Theirs is
> > best for fidelity - that is, it will present a visual representation
> > of the document that, from what I understand, will be identical to
> > what you would see in LibreOffice itself. It does however rely very
> > heavily on the server side to implement a large proportion of the editing
> logic.
> >
> You are right, but be aware this is part of a bigger plan to provide a new
> framework for LibreOffice, a framework suitable for use on web as well as
> modern devices like tablets.
>
>
> >
> > Our approach (using HTML for rendering) provides less fidelity (in the
> > sense of a LO/OO rendered version of a document being the
> “authoritative”
> > rendering - though this depends on your needs, particularly if you’re
> > focused on content rather than presentation). However our advantage is
> > that
> > *all* of the editing logic resides on the client, and we only need to
> > talk to the server for document conversion and loading/saving purposes.
> >
> We take the simple, but limited, aproach...to be honest I prefer that to flying
> high.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
So far, I am seeing features like creating thumbnail preview of docx, odt documents. Translation of documents and others that is not required to honor 100% of formatting.
franz
Re: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online Document Editing
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 25 March 2015 at 17:23, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 25 Mar 2015, at 11:13 pm, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-working-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-to-google-apps-office-365/
> <
> https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-working-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-to-google-apps-office-365/
> >
>
> Some more technical details here:
>
> https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.html
> <
> https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.html
> >
>
> I think both approaches are useful, for different scenarios. Theirs is
> best for fidelity - that is, it will present a visual representation of the
> document that, from what I understand, will be identical to what you would
> see in LibreOffice itself. It does however rely very heavily on the server
> side to implement a large proportion of the editing logic.
>
You are right, but be aware this is part of a bigger plan to provide a new
framework for LibreOffice, a framework suitable for use on web as well as
modern devices like tablets.
>
> Our approach (using HTML for rendering) provides less fidelity (in the
> sense of a LO/OO rendered version of a document being the “authoritative”
> rendering - though this depends on your needs, particularly if you’re
> focused on content rather than presentation). However our advantage is that
> *all* of the editing logic resides on the client, and we only need to talk
> to the server for document conversion and loading/saving purposes.
>
We take the simple, but limited, aproach...to be honest I prefer that to
flying high.
rgds
jan i.
>
> —
> Dr Peter M. Kelly
> pmkelly@apache.org
>
> PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key>
> (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
>
>
Re: IceWarp and Collabora Are Working on LibreOffice Online Document Editing
Posted by Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org>.
> On 25 Mar 2015, at 11:13 pm, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-working-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-to-google-apps-office-365/ <https://libreoffice-from-collabora.com/icewarp-and-collabora-are-working-on-libreoffice-online-document-editing-an-open-source-alternative-to-google-apps-office-365/>
Some more technical details here:
https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.html <https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2015-03-25-libreoffice-icewarp.html>
I think both approaches are useful, for different scenarios. Theirs is best for fidelity - that is, it will present a visual representation of the document that, from what I understand, will be identical to what you would see in LibreOffice itself. It does however rely very heavily on the server side to implement a large proportion of the editing logic.
Our approach (using HTML for rendering) provides less fidelity (in the sense of a LO/OO rendered version of a document being the “authoritative” rendering - though this depends on your needs, particularly if you’re focused on content rather than presentation). However our advantage is that *all* of the editing logic resides on the client, and we only need to talk to the server for document conversion and loading/saving purposes.
—
Dr Peter M. Kelly
pmkelly@apache.org
PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key>
(fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)