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new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Sander Roobol, after doing a terrific job as Patch Manager for more
than a year, finally has to step down. He just got swamped with some
other committments.
Thank you for everything, Sander!
These will be tough shoes to fill. But I'm hoping someone will step
up: it's an important role, we have really grown to depend on the
Patch Manager to keep things organized.
Since we often see multiple volunteers when a call like this goes out
-- which warms the cockles of my heart, by the way -- let's give until
Thursday for responses to come in, before making any decision. It may
be that someone with particularly relevant skills or experience
volunteers. (It might also be that Patch Management is divisible,
though I tend to think that's less true of this role than of others.)
Below are:
1. A description of the PM role that I just checked into HACKING,
2. A list of pending patches that Sander Roobol sent me. This
list is a good place to start for whoever picks up the role.
Here's 1:
The "Patch Manager" Role:
-------------------------
Subversion usually has a Patch Manager, whose job is to watch the dev@
mailing list and make sure that no patches "slip through the cracks".
This means watching every thread containing "[PATCH]" mails, and
taking appropriate action based on the progress of the thread. If the
thread resolves on its own (because the patch gets committed, or
because there is consensus that the patch doesn't need to be applied,
or whatever) then no further action need be taken. But if the thread
fades out without any clear decision, then the patch needs to be saved
in the issue tracker, by filing a new issue of type 'PATCH',
summarizing the patch and the responses to it, and pointing to the
relevant mailing list archive URLs.
The Patch Manager needs a basic technical understanding of Subversion,
and the ability to skim a thread and get a rough understanding of
whether consensus has been reached, and if so, of what kind. It does
*not* require actual Subversion development experience or commit
access. Expertise in using one's mail reading software is optional,
but recommended :-).
This is an important role. Having outstanding patches organized in
the issue tracker makes them *much* more manageable; many changes are
in Subversion today because they were caught by the Patch Manager. We
currently do not have a Patch Manager. Sander Roobol, our first PM,
did a great job for a long time, but he got swamped with some other
stuff and had to step down. We are now seeking a new Patch Manager.
Please post to dev@subversion.tigris.org if you're interested.
Here's 2:
* [PATCH] Explain portability a bit more (FAQ)
by "Francois Beausoleil" <fb...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:19:14 -0500
* Subversion Manual
by Martin Tomes <li...@tomes.org>
on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:53:18 +0000
* [PATCH] (Almost) rewrite of tools tools/xslt/svnindex.xsl
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C6var_Arnfj=F6r=F0_Bjarmason?=
<je...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:16:19 +0000
* [PATCH] (Almost) rewrite of tools tools/xslt/svnindex.css
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C6var_Arnfj=F6r=F0_Bjarmason?=
<je...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:16:36 +0000
* PATCH: svnindex.css & svnindex.xsl
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C6var_Arnfj=F6r=F0_Bjarmason?=
<je...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:02:10 +0000
* [PATH] Update of the svn subcommands reference
by makl@tigris.org
on Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:15:49 +0100
* [PATCH] Doc fix for "svn update"
by David Summers <da...@summersoft.fay.ar.us>
on Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:31:28 -0600 (CST)
* Re: [PATCH] tools/xslt/svnindex.xsl and tools/xslt/svnindex.css
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C6var_Arnfj=F6r=F0_Bjarmason?= <av...@simnet.is>
on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:32:20 +0000
* Re: [PATCH] svnserve --user, use svn+ssh but avoid system accounts
by Tommi Virtanen <tv...@tv.debian.net>
on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:34:00 +0200
* Re: [PATCH] Update svn status docs
by Eric Hanchrow <of...@blarg.net>
on Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:26:41 -0800
* [PATCH] Global errno and dav_svn_convert_err
by Philip Martin <ph...@codematters.co.uk>
on Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:21:57 +0000
* PATCH: Re: r8616: Improved warnings from svnlook and svnadmin
by Julian Foad <ju...@btopenworld.com>
on Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:33:26 +0000
* Re: [PATCH] License required acknowledgement
by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
on Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:41:51 -0800
* [PATCH] Fix Duplicate directory in books/
by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
on Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:26:25 -0800
* [PATCH v2] svn status --non-recursive should not recurse
by Jon Foster <jo...@jon-foster.co.uk>
on Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:12:13 +0000
* PATCH: maybe fix something?
by Julian Foad <ju...@btopenworld.com>
on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:55:10 +0000
* [DOC PATCH] appa.xml
by "Shatzer, Larry" <La...@Spirent.com>
on Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:33:25 -0800
* Re: PySVN WorkBench 0.3.2 for Subversion 1.0.0 released
by Barry Scott <ba...@barrys-emacs.org>
on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:26:01 +0000
* [PATCH] Fix Duplicate directory in books/
by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
on Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:51:01 -0800
* [PATCH] Add --version to svnversion, svndumpfilter, and svnserve
by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 01:02:48 -0800
* [PATCH] Added feature suppress_modifications to mailer
by Nicklas Norling <ni...@ifsab.se>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:25:38 +0100
* [PATCH] stdlib removed from svn_types.h
by "H. Hernan Moraldo" <he...@moraldo.com.ar>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:24:24 -0300
* [PATCH] Fix commit_tests.py with cygwin
by makl <ma...@tigris.org>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:43:56 +0100
* [BOOK PATCH] appb.xml
by "Shatzer, Larry" <La...@Spirent.com>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:19:30 -0800
* [Patch] fix for "Inconsistency copying files to WC" (Issue 1552)
by <ra...@collab.net>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:07:50 -0800 (PST)
* [PATCH] - Inconsistency copying files to WC (Issue 1552)
by "S.Ramaswamy" <ra...@collab.net>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:28 -0800 (PST)
* [PATH] Asorted fixes to gnuify-changelog
by Juanma Barranquero <jm...@wke.es>
on Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:33:53 +0100
* [PATCH] Some project FAQ cleanups
by Nuutti Kotivuori <na...@iki.fi>
on Fri, 12 Mar 2004 03:19:06 +0200
* [PATCH] cmdclient option human-readable
by "H. Hernan Moraldo" <he...@moraldo.com.ar>
on Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:11:18 -0300
* [PATCH] Re: The new svn_wc_adm_*2 functions.
by "D.J. Heap" <dj...@shadyvale.net>
on Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:16:15 -0700
* [PATCH] [Issue 1751] file not switched if it is the same in source
and destination
by makl <ma...@tigris.org>
on Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:53:24 +0100
* [PATCH] Typo in comment in dag.c
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:07:44 -0000
* [PATCH] mod_dav_svn: Prevent multi-author commits, prevent
no-author commits when there is an author
by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>
on Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:12:19 +0100
* [PATCH] Resolve issue 1491: let svnversion_tests.py emit error information on failure
by "Erik Huelsmann" <e....@gmx.net>
on Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:04:35 +0100 (MET)
* [PATCH] Building python swig bindings on Win32
by Patrick Mayweg <ma...@qint.de>
on Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:01:27 +0100
* [BOOK PATCH] Correct the url of cvs2svn + some wording about it
by Jani Averbach <ja...@jaa.iki.fi>
on Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:37:43 -0700
* [PATCH] website could acknowledge exclusive locking is planned post-1.0 feature
by Travis P <tw...@castle.fastmail.fm>
on Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:02:50 -0600
* [PATCH] Issue 952: Pass the new value as stdin to the pre-revprop-change
hook script.
by Julian Foad <ju...@btopenworld.com>
on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:49:36 +0000
* [BOOK PATCH] ch08.xml
by "Shatzer, Larry" <La...@Spirent.com>
on Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:19:35 -0800
* [PATCH] Locking on non-recursive property operations
by "D.J. Heap" <dj...@shadyvale.net>
on Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:01:34 -0700
* [BOOK PATCH] <quote> and >
by "Shatzer, Larry" <La...@Spirent.com>
on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:05:45 -0800
* [PATCH] Avoid treating urls as paths
by "D.J. Heap" <dj...@shadyvale.net>
on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:39:28 -0700
* Re: [PATCH] Prevent the modification of the URL [was 1.0.1 veto for r8959]
by Greg Hudson <gh...@MIT.EDU>
on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:55:09 -0500
* [BOOK PATCH] small inconsistency in vendor example: libcomplex
by Steffen Prohaska <pr...@zib.de>
on Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:34:38 +0100
* [PATCH] Correct short-hand command usages in chapter 4
by "Francois Beausoleil" <fb...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:51:05 -0500
* [PATCH] Chapter 4 - add real log message to example
by "Francois Beausoleil" <fb...@users.sourceforge.net>
on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:58:11 -0500
* PATCH: svnadmin revision specifiers [was Re: possible bug in svnadmin]
by Julian Foad <ju...@btopenworld.com>
on Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:16:22 +0000
* [PATCH] Trivial Book Patch
by Jason Voegele <ja...@jvoegele.com>
on Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:49:10 -0500
* [PATCH][repost] Don't add extra blank line to log messages
by Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E5dman?= <pr...@abo.fi>
on Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:34:06 +0200
* [PATCH] Don't build tests as part of plain "make"
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:19:20 +0100
* [PATCH] Specify -no-undefined flag to libtool where appropriate, thereby permitting shared lib build on Cygwin.
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:33:23 +0100
* [PATCH] website fixes
by "Shatzer, Larry" <La...@Spirent.com>
on Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:09:14 -0800
* [PATCH] Allow export to export svn:eol-style=native files with a user suplied eol marker.
by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
on Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:29:14 -0800
* [PATCH] I18n patch: latest version
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= <ni...@reloco.com.ar>
on Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:49:08 -0300
* Re: [PATCH] Fix to svn_time_to_human_cstring() - take 3
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= <ni...@reloco.com.ar>
on Mon, 05 Apr 2004 21:11:03 -0300
* [PATCH] Fix #1209 (fwd)
by "Peter N. Lundblad" <lu...@linux.nu>
on Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:10:08 +0200 (CEST)
* [PATCH] es.po updated
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= <ni...@reloco.com.ar>
on Thu, 08 Apr 2004 00:34:45 -0300
* [PATCH] gettext on Win32
by "D.J. Heap" <dj...@shadyvale.net>
on Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:34:17 -0600
* Re: [PATCH] Fix for issue 1797 - take four
by makl <ma...@tigris.org>
on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:07:34 +0200
* [PATCH] Perl Bindings on Win32
by "Michael S. Liebman" <m-...@northwestern.edu>
on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:14:00 -0400
* [PATCH] More _() added
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= <ni...@reloco.com.ar>
on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:37:47 -0300
* [PATCH] svnlook and symlinked /tmp
by Lachlan O'Dea <od...@ca.com>
on Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:57:52 +1000
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Re: new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Michael W Thelen <th...@cs.utah.edu> writes:
> Thanks for the help, and I certainly expect to be asking some questions.
> So here's my first question: when a thread has fizzled out without a
> clear resolution, do you think it is a good idea to add a final response
> to the thread saying that I am adding the issue to the issue tracker? I
> think that would probably help for anyone searching the archives, and to
> let the original poster know that something is happening. But I also
> don't want to clutter the list with such messages, if you think that
> would be overkill.
Yeah, I think it's a good idea. Sander Roobol, the previous patch
manager, did it all the time, so people are accustomed to it. I
wouldn't worry too much about cluttering the list. These sorts of
message are small, discrete pieces of information whose implications
are easily understood, so in terms of "mental clutter" they're not a
problem, if you know what I mean.
-K
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Re: new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Posted by Michael W Thelen <th...@cs.utah.edu>.
* kfogel@collab.net <kf...@collab.net> [2004-05-06 15:56]:
> Thanks for volunteering!
Thank you for trusting me with the responsibility. I'm actually glad
that something like this was available, since I don't yet feel
comfortable contributing much code to Subversion, but I am quite eager
to do -something- to help out.
> No, there's no hazing process, except insofar as wading through that
> backlog of unhandled patches I posted counts as a hazing (which is a
> reasonable use of the term, I suppose). The list is huge, I realize,
> so you might want to buy yourself some instant delegation by posting
> to the dev@ list, saying you'll be doing patch management, and asking
> individuals to either repost patches or (better yet) point you to mail
> archiver threads about their unhandled patches. For any given pending
> patch, there's probably *someone* out there who's still watching to
> see if something happens with it, and that person would have a reason
> to respond to your request.
Yep, I actually already went through and found all the original patch
messages in the archives (what can I say, I had nothing better to do on
a Monday night). I will also post a message asking for those with
unhandled patches to let me know about them.
> Good luck! Don't hesitate to ask questions here. Patch management is
> crucial to the project, we'll do everything we can to make it easier
> for you...
Thanks for the help, and I certainly expect to be asking some questions.
So here's my first question: when a thread has fizzled out without a
clear resolution, do you think it is a good idea to add a final response
to the thread saying that I am adding the issue to the issue tracker? I
think that would probably help for anyone searching the archives, and to
let the original poster know that something is happening. But I also
don't want to clutter the list with such messages, if you think that
would be overkill.
Thanks also, Max, for the pointers to those four threads. I'll take
those off the list.
-- Mike
--
Michael W. Thelen
True friends are those who really know you but love you anyway.
-- Edna Buchanan
Re: new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Posted by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net>.
kfogel@collab.net wrote:
> Michael, you sound like exactly the right kind of person for it. A
> "perfectionist who likes to make sure that details are taken care of
> and loose ends are wrapped up." Yup, that's pretty much the job
> description :-).
>
> Thanks for volunteering!
>
> No, there's no hazing process, except insofar as wading through that
> backlog of unhandled patches I posted counts as a hazing (which is a
> reasonable use of the term, I suppose). The list is huge, I realize,
> so you might want to buy yourself some instant delegation by posting
> to the dev@ list, saying you'll be doing patch management, and asking
> individuals to either repost patches or (better yet) point you to mail
> archiver threads about their unhandled patches. For any given pending
> patch, there's probably *someone* out there who's still watching to
> see if something happens with it, and that person would have a reason
> to respond to your request.
>
> Good luck! Don't hesitate to ask questions here. Patch management is
> crucial to the project, we'll do everything we can to make it easier
> for you...
Hi Michael - Welcome!
You can remove the following 4 patches from the list - they are all
committed or require re-thinking.
* [PATCH] Fix commit_tests.py with cygwin
by makl <ma...@tigris.org>
on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:43:56 +0100
* [PATCH] Typo in comment in dag.c
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:07:44 -0000
* [PATCH] Don't build tests as part of plain "make"
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:19:20 +0100
* [PATCH] Specify -no-undefined flag to libtool where appropriate,
thereby permitting shared lib build on Cygwin.
by "Max Bowsher" <ma...@ukf.net>
on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:33:23 +0100
Max.
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Re: new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Michael, you sound like exactly the right kind of person for it. A
"perfectionist who likes to make sure that details are taken care of
and loose ends are wrapped up." Yup, that's pretty much the job
description :-).
Thanks for volunteering!
No, there's no hazing process, except insofar as wading through that
backlog of unhandled patches I posted counts as a hazing (which is a
reasonable use of the term, I suppose). The list is huge, I realize,
so you might want to buy yourself some instant delegation by posting
to the dev@ list, saying you'll be doing patch management, and asking
individuals to either repost patches or (better yet) point you to mail
archiver threads about their unhandled patches. For any given pending
patch, there's probably *someone* out there who's still watching to
see if something happens with it, and that person would have a reason
to respond to your request.
Good luck! Don't hesitate to ask questions here. Patch management is
crucial to the project, we'll do everything we can to make it easier
for you...
-Karl
Michael W Thelen <th...@cs.utah.edu> writes:
> I've been reading the Subversion lists for a few months now, and have
> started getting familiar with the code and documentation. I love using
> Subversion and would like to help out in any way I can. The role of
> Patch Manager sounds like it would fit my current (fairly low) level of
> expertise pretty well, and I am willing to volunteer for the job.
> Besides, I'm the sort of perfectionist who likes to make sure that
> details are taken care of and loose ends are wrapped up. My tedious
> personality is practically begging me to volunteer.
>
> I understand that I'm a relative newcomer and not particularly
> well-known, but I take my responsibilities seriously and if you decide
> to go with me as the new Patch Manager, I will do my very best.
>
> Some details about me that may or may not be relevant:
> - I read email religiously, using fetchmail/procmail/mutt.
> - I work full-time, with flexible hours. Most of my free time is on
> evenings and weekends, but I read email all day long.
> - My programming background is mostly in C++ and Perl, though I am
> comfortable with C and am picking up Ruby. I notice that a lot of
> Subversion developers seem to be Python folks, but I don't hold that
> against anyone. :-) I've actually been meaning to learn Python
> anyway, and what better reason than to make a contribution?
> - My personal homepage is http://mike.pietdepsi.com/. It's nothing
> particularly stimulating, but has a few more details about me.
>
> Feel free to grill me, or submit me to whatever hazing you deem
> necessary. :-)
>
> -- Mike
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Re: new Patch Manager needed (request for volunteer)
Posted by Michael W Thelen <th...@cs.utah.edu>.
* kfogel@collab.net <kf...@collab.net> [2004-05-03 14:21]:
> These will be tough shoes to fill. But I'm hoping someone will step
> up: it's an important role, we have really grown to depend on the
> Patch Manager to keep things organized.
I've been reading the Subversion lists for a few months now, and have
started getting familiar with the code and documentation. I love using
Subversion and would like to help out in any way I can. The role of
Patch Manager sounds like it would fit my current (fairly low) level of
expertise pretty well, and I am willing to volunteer for the job.
Besides, I'm the sort of perfectionist who likes to make sure that
details are taken care of and loose ends are wrapped up. My tedious
personality is practically begging me to volunteer.
I understand that I'm a relative newcomer and not particularly
well-known, but I take my responsibilities seriously and if you decide
to go with me as the new Patch Manager, I will do my very best.
Some details about me that may or may not be relevant:
- I read email religiously, using fetchmail/procmail/mutt.
- I work full-time, with flexible hours. Most of my free time is on
evenings and weekends, but I read email all day long.
- My programming background is mostly in C++ and Perl, though I am
comfortable with C and am picking up Ruby. I notice that a lot of
Subversion developers seem to be Python folks, but I don't hold that
against anyone. :-) I've actually been meaning to learn Python
anyway, and what better reason than to make a contribution?
- My personal homepage is http://mike.pietdepsi.com/. It's nothing
particularly stimulating, but has a few more details about me.
Feel free to grill me, or submit me to whatever hazing you deem
necessary. :-)
-- Mike
--
Michael W. Thelen
I happen to feel that the degree of a person's intelligence is directly
reflected by the number of conflicting attitudes she can bring to bear on the
same topic. -- Lisa Alther, "Kinflicks", 1975