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[GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Frank Bille <fr...@apache.org>.
The first one is nice.
Frank
On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martin Grigorov <mc...@e-card.bg>.
WalkerP wrote:
> Wondering what's happening with this task - I've put the files at Google Code
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=14#c23
> and I'd like to know if they're acceptable…
>
The rising (Wicket) sun is really cool !
There is a light at the end of the tunnel for you JSP developers :-)
Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Maybe not clear from my message earlier: regardless of the outcome of
the vote, we will close the issue as successful (provided you submit
the code to JIRA). This way you can continue with the contest.
Martijn
On Jan 5, 2008 5:51 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Walker,
>
> I've started a vote on this list, asking for what we will do with your
> submission.
>
> At least you have done everything to make this beautiful and sexy. On
> behalf of the Wicket community, THANK YOU!
>
> Before we close the issue, could you submit the code through a JIRA
> issue (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET) and tick the
> "allow contribution to be used by the project" checkbox? This will
> grant us the right to use your contribution.
>
> When you have done that, we will close the GHOP-14 issue and mark it successful.
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2008 4:52 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wondering what's happening with this task - I've put the files at Google Code
> > http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=14#c23
> > and I'd like to know if they're acceptable…
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> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Walker,
I've started a vote on this list, asking for what we will do with your
submission.
At least you have done everything to make this beautiful and sexy. On
behalf of the Wicket community, THANK YOU!
Before we close the issue, could you submit the code through a JIRA
issue (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET) and tick the
"allow contribution to be used by the project" checkbox? This will
grant us the right to use your contribution.
When you have done that, we will close the GHOP-14 issue and mark it successful.
Martijn
On Jan 5, 2008 4:52 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wondering what's happening with this task - I've put the files at Google Code
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=14#c23
> and I'd like to know if they're acceptable…
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>
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com>.
Wondering what's happening with this task - I've put the files at Google Code
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=14#c23
and I'd like to know if they're acceptable…
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 15, 2007 9:25 AM, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> looks pretty cool. what is the scope of this meant to be? should it be
> just an entry point into the main site or should it really have all
> those tabs - kinda replacing some of the functionaliy of the main
> site?
I guess if those tabs would be drop down menus, we don't need a lot of
them. We should think which ones we really need though.
Maybe:
- Wicket - Introduction
- Releases
- News
- Team
- Documentation - Getting started
- Books
- WIKI
- Component reference
- Examples
- Quickstart Wizard
- Javadoc reference
- Community - Building from source
- Mailing lists
- Reporting bugs
- Third party projects & Tool support
- Continuous integration
- Planet Wicket
- Developers - Writing docs
- How to get involved
- Apache - Apache
- Sponsorship
- Thanks
> would be really cool if the text/version num/published dates were all
> variables passed into the flash object from html - less hassle for us
> to maintain the swf.
+1
Eelco
Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Cool, I thought already (the mockup name triggered that), but I just wanted
to make it sure we get javascript.
Martijn
On Dec 15, 2007 9:18 PM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks for the feedback so far.
> these are just mockups done with flash. the student wants to do it with a
> javascript library (jquery/mootools/animator).
>
> Gerolf
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 8:01 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
> > nor
> > have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
> > also
> > think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the format
> > is
> > flawed for a entry point of any website.
> >
> > I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
> > But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 6:25 PM, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > looks pretty cool. what is the scope of this meant to be? should it be
> > > just an entry point into the main site or should it really have all
> > > those tabs - kinda replacing some of the functionaliy of the main
> > > site?
> > >
> > > i really like both designs, but i think my preference is the first. it
> > > would be really cool if the text/version num/published dates were all
> > > variables passed into the flash object from html - less hassle for us
> > > to maintain the swf.
> > >
> > > -igor
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2007 4:24 AM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > gerolf
> > > >
> > > > [0]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > >
> > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com>.
thanks for the feedback so far.
these are just mockups done with flash. the student wants to do it with a
javascript library (jquery/mootools/animator).
Gerolf
On Dec 15, 2007 8:01 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
> nor
> have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
> also
> think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the format
> is
> flawed for a entry point of any website.
>
> I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
> But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
>
> Martijn
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 6:25 PM, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > looks pretty cool. what is the scope of this meant to be? should it be
> > just an entry point into the main site or should it really have all
> > those tabs - kinda replacing some of the functionaliy of the main
> > site?
> >
> > i really like both designs, but i think my preference is the first. it
> > would be really cool if the text/version num/published dates were all
> > variables passed into the flash object from html - less hassle for us
> > to maintain the swf.
> >
> > -igor
> >
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 4:24 AM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > gerolf
> > >
> > > [0]
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
> > >
> > > On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > > View this message in context:
> > > >
> >
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> > > > Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Heh, this site is mostly viewed by developers, so their setup is not a
common household config. However, 1280x1024 is the default size for 17" 4:3
flat panels, and I imagine that those are really popular in businesses.
I can't give you the sizes of the browser windows. The stats come from
google analytics and that doesn't provide them.
Martijn
On Dec 16, 2007 11:07 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The reason I've added the night background with Javascript is so that
> those
> without JS enabled don't have it cover everything permanently. I can the
> put
> script to make the backdrop inline, up at the top of the body, and it'll
> come up before anything loads. (why I didn't do that in the first place I
> don't know) My current working model has this done, and I've tweaked the
> animation a little (the floor fades in, then the text, then a little
> pause,
> then the sunrise) - i'll upload it this afternoon. (it's 9:00 am ATM)
>
> And, yeah, It's pretty clear it doesn't need to work in IE5.5 (your stats
> surprised me a little - I was expecting it to about as popular as opera),
> but the issues are the same as in IE6 - which is at 13% - enough to be
> worthwhile (unfortunately).
> I think that all I need to do to make it work in IE6 is:add some
> proprietary
> code so IE understands the transparent PNG for the 'wicket' text.
> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/
> add a conditional comment that give #information a specific width.
> and remove the underlines from the tabs - IE6 requires that they are links
> to use the :hover selector.
> I should be able to test this when I have computers at school (1.5hr)
> Hopefully it's ok with you that the CSS won't validate - otherwise you're
> stuck having it work <90% of the time.
>
> It's also surprising that so many people have 1280x1024 monitors — it's
> not
> the standard ratio or the widescreen one. - 1280x960 is.
>
> Do you have stats on the browser window sizes? It's mostly a curiousity,
> but
> it could also be useful for this…
>
>
> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> >
> > Total and utter Coolness.
> > I think you can delay the start of the animation a tad, say ~.5 or 1
> > second.
> > Let the folks get accustomed to what they are seeing. Perhaps make sure
> > the
> > background and such of the 'night' are the starting point (i.e. not
> > setting
> > them with js, but directly in the css), this will mitigate the
> > transitions,
> > and add extra time to the animation.
> >
> > Stats for the site:
> >
> > firefox: 67% (2.0.0.11 : 35%, 2.0.0.9: 32%, 2.0.0.10 : 15%, 2.0.0.8 :
> 6%,
> > 2.0.0.6 : 3%, etc.)
> > ie: 23% (6.0 : 57%, 7.0: 43%, 5.5: 0.18%, 4.01 : 0.04%)
> > opera: 4% (9.23 : 33%, 9.24: 31%, 9.50 9%, 9.22: 8%, 9.21: 4%)
> > Safari : 4% (523.10 : 53%, 523.12: 26%, 419.3: 9%, 523.12.9: 6.8%)
> > Mozilla: 1%
> > Camino: 0.3%
> > Konqueror: 0.3%
> >
> > So I think you can safely skip IE 5.5 compatibility.
> >
> > Screen resolutions:
> > 1280x1024 : 33%
> > 1024x768: 19%
> > 1280x800: 11%
> > 1680x1050: 10%
> > 1440x900 7%
> > 1600x1200 5%
> > 1400x1050 5%
> > 1920x1200 4%
> > 1152x864 2%
> > 1280x768 1%
> > 1280x960 1%
> > 800x600 0.59%
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > On Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've currently got a mostly working version of the page that I've
> tested
> >> on:
> >> Safari 3 (which is where it looks best due to support of the
> >> 'text-shadow'
> >> CSS property & rounded corners)
> >> Firefox 2.0.0.11 & IE7 (both look the same)
> >> IE6 & IE 5.5 (It failed these tests, as neither browers supports
> >> 'max-width'
> >> or alpha transparent PNGs - but both issues should be easily fixable
> with
> >> a
> >> little JS.)
> >>
> >> As yet, I haven't been able to see what it looks like in Firefox 1.5,
> >> Opera,
> >> or Safari 2, so if anyone has access to these apps, please take a
> screen
> >> shot…
> >>
> >> The site is useable with or without javascript enabled (the only
> >> difference
> >> is that there's no animation without JS), and at resolutions from
> 800x600
> >> up
> >> (though it looks better on 1024x768+ - more white space)
> >>
> >> I've uploaded the page here: http://wicket.awardspace.com/ (the
> hosting's
> >> pretty bad, but hey, it's free) and I've attached a zip of screenshots
> of
> >> the page with different browsers
> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p14361677/Wicket%2BScreenshots.zip
> >> Wicket+Screenshots.zip As you may notice, Safari's menu looks markedly
> >> better than other browsers' (esp. IE). Currently, I'm not entirely sure
> >> how
> >> the menus should be organised (help?) - but once the menu structure
> >> itself
> >> finalised, I'll be able to make them look just as good on the other
> >> browsers. For now, it's using scarcely-supported CSS3 to do the rounded
> >> borders and drop shadows.
> >>
> >> And, just now - after uploading the site I realised something I hadn't
> >> remembered to consider before - currently the page loads & displays in
> >> its
> >> entirety, then it animates. Not particularly appealing. That's easily
> >> fixable (I just need to move the JS that draws the navy cover over the
> >> page
> >> higher up in the code, and have it run before the DOM is fully
> >> downloaded,
> >> -
> >> then have the animation run when the download's finished.)
> >>
> >> To-Do:
> >> Make Page work with IE 6 (and maybe 5.5)
> >> Shrink page & resources size
> >> Improve & finalise Menu Structure
> >> Re-style menus so they look better cross-browser
> >> Various Minor Tweaks
> >> Whenever
> >>
> >>
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=51
> >> Issue 51 is resolved, put it's result into the page
> >> Anything I've forgotten?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the
> format,
> >> > nor
> >> > have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits.
> I
> >> > also
> >> > think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the
> >> format
> >> > is
> >> > flawed for a entry point of any website.
> >> >
> >> > I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
> >> > But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your
> head.
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/-GHOP--Issue-14---Created-an-Animated-Launch-Page-for-Site-tp14237894p14361677.html
> >> Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0-rc1 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0-rc1/
> >
> >
>
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>
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com>.
The reason I've added the night background with Javascript is so that those
without JS enabled don't have it cover everything permanently. I can the put
script to make the backdrop inline, up at the top of the body, and it'll
come up before anything loads. (why I didn't do that in the first place I
don't know) My current working model has this done, and I've tweaked the
animation a little (the floor fades in, then the text, then a little pause,
then the sunrise) - i'll upload it this afternoon. (it's 9:00 am ATM)
And, yeah, It's pretty clear it doesn't need to work in IE5.5 (your stats
surprised me a little - I was expecting it to about as popular as opera),
but the issues are the same as in IE6 - which is at 13% - enough to be
worthwhile (unfortunately).
I think that all I need to do to make it work in IE6 is:add some proprietary
code so IE understands the transparent PNG for the 'wicket' text.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/
add a conditional comment that give #information a specific width.
and remove the underlines from the tabs - IE6 requires that they are links
to use the :hover selector.
I should be able to test this when I have computers at school (1.5hr)
Hopefully it's ok with you that the CSS won't validate - otherwise you're
stuck having it work <90% of the time.
It's also surprising that so many people have 1280x1024 monitors — it's not
the standard ratio or the widescreen one. - 1280x960 is.
Do you have stats on the browser window sizes? It's mostly a curiousity, but
it could also be useful for this…
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>
> Total and utter Coolness.
> I think you can delay the start of the animation a tad, say ~.5 or 1
> second.
> Let the folks get accustomed to what they are seeing. Perhaps make sure
> the
> background and such of the 'night' are the starting point (i.e. not
> setting
> them with js, but directly in the css), this will mitigate the
> transitions,
> and add extra time to the animation.
>
> Stats for the site:
>
> firefox: 67% (2.0.0.11 : 35%, 2.0.0.9: 32%, 2.0.0.10 : 15%, 2.0.0.8 : 6%,
> 2.0.0.6 : 3%, etc.)
> ie: 23% (6.0 : 57%, 7.0: 43%, 5.5: 0.18%, 4.01 : 0.04%)
> opera: 4% (9.23 : 33%, 9.24: 31%, 9.50 9%, 9.22: 8%, 9.21: 4%)
> Safari : 4% (523.10 : 53%, 523.12: 26%, 419.3: 9%, 523.12.9: 6.8%)
> Mozilla: 1%
> Camino: 0.3%
> Konqueror: 0.3%
>
> So I think you can safely skip IE 5.5 compatibility.
>
> Screen resolutions:
> 1280x1024 : 33%
> 1024x768: 19%
> 1280x800: 11%
> 1680x1050: 10%
> 1440x900 7%
> 1600x1200 5%
> 1400x1050 5%
> 1920x1200 4%
> 1152x864 2%
> 1280x768 1%
> 1280x960 1%
> 800x600 0.59%
>
> Martijn
>
> On Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've currently got a mostly working version of the page that I've tested
>> on:
>> Safari 3 (which is where it looks best due to support of the
>> 'text-shadow'
>> CSS property & rounded corners)
>> Firefox 2.0.0.11 & IE7 (both look the same)
>> IE6 & IE 5.5 (It failed these tests, as neither browers supports
>> 'max-width'
>> or alpha transparent PNGs - but both issues should be easily fixable with
>> a
>> little JS.)
>>
>> As yet, I haven't been able to see what it looks like in Firefox 1.5,
>> Opera,
>> or Safari 2, so if anyone has access to these apps, please take a screen
>> shot…
>>
>> The site is useable with or without javascript enabled (the only
>> difference
>> is that there's no animation without JS), and at resolutions from 800x600
>> up
>> (though it looks better on 1024x768+ - more white space)
>>
>> I've uploaded the page here: http://wicket.awardspace.com/ (the hosting's
>> pretty bad, but hey, it's free) and I've attached a zip of screenshots of
>> the page with different browsers
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p14361677/Wicket%2BScreenshots.zip
>> Wicket+Screenshots.zip As you may notice, Safari's menu looks markedly
>> better than other browsers' (esp. IE). Currently, I'm not entirely sure
>> how
>> the menus should be organised (help?) - but once the menu structure
>> itself
>> finalised, I'll be able to make them look just as good on the other
>> browsers. For now, it's using scarcely-supported CSS3 to do the rounded
>> borders and drop shadows.
>>
>> And, just now - after uploading the site I realised something I hadn't
>> remembered to consider before - currently the page loads & displays in
>> its
>> entirety, then it animates. Not particularly appealing. That's easily
>> fixable (I just need to move the JS that draws the navy cover over the
>> page
>> higher up in the code, and have it run before the DOM is fully
>> downloaded,
>> -
>> then have the animation run when the download's finished.)
>>
>> To-Do:
>> Make Page work with IE 6 (and maybe 5.5)
>> Shrink page & resources size
>> Improve & finalise Menu Structure
>> Re-style menus so they look better cross-browser
>> Various Minor Tweaks
>> Whenever
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=51
>> Issue 51 is resolved, put it's result into the page
>> Anything I've forgotten?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>> >
>> > Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
>> > nor
>> > have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
>> > also
>> > think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the
>> format
>> > is
>> > flawed for a entry point of any website.
>> >
>> > I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
>> > But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
>> >
>>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Total and utter Coolness.
I think you can delay the start of the animation a tad, say ~.5 or 1 second.
Let the folks get accustomed to what they are seeing. Perhaps make sure the
background and such of the 'night' are the starting point (i.e. not setting
them with js, but directly in the css), this will mitigate the transitions,
and add extra time to the animation.
Stats for the site:
firefox: 67% (2.0.0.11 : 35%, 2.0.0.9: 32%, 2.0.0.10 : 15%, 2.0.0.8 : 6%,
2.0.0.6 : 3%, etc.)
ie: 23% (6.0 : 57%, 7.0: 43%, 5.5: 0.18%, 4.01 : 0.04%)
opera: 4% (9.23 : 33%, 9.24: 31%, 9.50 9%, 9.22: 8%, 9.21: 4%)
Safari : 4% (523.10 : 53%, 523.12: 26%, 419.3: 9%, 523.12.9: 6.8%)
Mozilla: 1%
Camino: 0.3%
Konqueror: 0.3%
So I think you can safely skip IE 5.5 compatibility.
Screen resolutions:
1280x1024 : 33%
1024x768: 19%
1280x800: 11%
1680x1050: 10%
1440x900 7%
1600x1200 5%
1400x1050 5%
1920x1200 4%
1152x864 2%
1280x768 1%
1280x960 1%
800x600 0.59%
Martijn
On Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've currently got a mostly working version of the page that I've tested
> on:
> Safari 3 (which is where it looks best due to support of the 'text-shadow'
> CSS property & rounded corners)
> Firefox 2.0.0.11 & IE7 (both look the same)
> IE6 & IE 5.5 (It failed these tests, as neither browers supports
> 'max-width'
> or alpha transparent PNGs - but both issues should be easily fixable with
> a
> little JS.)
>
> As yet, I haven't been able to see what it looks like in Firefox 1.5,
> Opera,
> or Safari 2, so if anyone has access to these apps, please take a screen
> shot…
>
> The site is useable with or without javascript enabled (the only
> difference
> is that there's no animation without JS), and at resolutions from 800x600
> up
> (though it looks better on 1024x768+ - more white space)
>
> I've uploaded the page here: http://wicket.awardspace.com/ (the hosting's
> pretty bad, but hey, it's free) and I've attached a zip of screenshots of
> the page with different browsers
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p14361677/Wicket%2BScreenshots.zip
> Wicket+Screenshots.zip As you may notice, Safari's menu looks markedly
> better than other browsers' (esp. IE). Currently, I'm not entirely sure
> how
> the menus should be organised (help?) - but once the menu structure itself
> finalised, I'll be able to make them look just as good on the other
> browsers. For now, it's using scarcely-supported CSS3 to do the rounded
> borders and drop shadows.
>
> And, just now - after uploading the site I realised something I hadn't
> remembered to consider before - currently the page loads & displays in its
> entirety, then it animates. Not particularly appealing. That's easily
> fixable (I just need to move the JS that draws the navy cover over the
> page
> higher up in the code, and have it run before the DOM is fully downloaded,
> -
> then have the animation run when the download's finished.)
>
> To-Do:
> Make Page work with IE 6 (and maybe 5.5)
> Shrink page & resources size
> Improve & finalise Menu Structure
> Re-style menus so they look better cross-browser
> Various Minor Tweaks
> Whenever
>
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=51
> Issue 51 is resolved, put it's result into the page
> Anything I've forgotten?
>
>
>
>
>
> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> >
> > Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
> > nor
> > have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
> > also
> > think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the format
> > is
> > flawed for a entry point of any website.
> >
> > I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
> > But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
> >
>
> --
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> http://www.nabble.com/-GHOP--Issue-14---Created-an-Animated-Launch-Page-for-Site-tp14237894p14361677.html
> Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com>.
Firstly, I agree entirely with your position on flash — if I were to make the
page in flash - I myself couldn't see it, — and besides, I don't have $500
to spare to buy Flash! (though, if i can help with 15 issues…)
Secondly, the coffee cup came from
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=13
another issue in the GHOP — personally, I kind of like it, but it wasn't
accepted, so I've stuck with the rising sun page with some tweaks and
changes (e.g: the tabs were originally going to be just tabs, now they're
pull-down menus - as per someone's suggestion. ).
I've currently got a mostly working version of the page that I've tested on:
Safari 3 (which is where it looks best due to support of the 'text-shadow'
CSS property & rounded corners)
Firefox 2.0.0.11 & IE7 (both look the same)
IE6 & IE 5.5 (It failed these tests, as neither browers supports 'max-width'
or alpha transparent PNGs - but both issues should be easily fixable with a
little JS.)
As yet, I haven't been able to see what it looks like in Firefox 1.5, Opera,
or Safari 2, so if anyone has access to these apps, please take a screen
shot…
The site is useable with or without javascript enabled (the only difference
is that there's no animation without JS), and at resolutions from 800x600 up
(though it looks better on 1024x768+ - more white space)
I've uploaded the page here: http://wicket.awardspace.com/ (the hosting's
pretty bad, but hey, it's free) and I've attached a zip of screenshots of
the page with different browsers
http://www.nabble.com/file/p14361677/Wicket%2BScreenshots.zip
Wicket+Screenshots.zip As you may notice, Safari's menu looks markedly
better than other browsers' (esp. IE). Currently, I'm not entirely sure how
the menus should be organised (help?) - but once the menu structure itself
finalised, I'll be able to make them look just as good on the other
browsers. For now, it's using scarcely-supported CSS3 to do the rounded
borders and drop shadows.
And, just now - after uploading the site I realised something I hadn't
remembered to consider before - currently the page loads & displays in its
entirety, then it animates. Not particularly appealing. That's easily
fixable (I just need to move the JS that draws the navy cover over the page
higher up in the code, and have it run before the DOM is fully downloaded, -
then have the animation run when the download's finished.)
To-Do:
Make Page work with IE 6 (and maybe 5.5)
Shrink page & resources size
Improve & finalise Menu Structure
Re-style menus so they look better cross-browser
Various Minor Tweaks
Whenever
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=51
Issue 51 is resolved, put it's result into the page
Anything I've forgotten?
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>
> Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format,
> nor
> have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I
> also
> think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the format
> is
> flawed for a entry point of any website.
>
> I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
> But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Again, I'm not going to maintain the swf file: I don't know the format, nor
have I any intention to learn it. So for me the format is off limits. I also
think that in the advent of adblock and other plugin blockers the format is
flawed for a entry point of any website.
I really do like the rising sun idea. This has to stay :)
But the coffee cup is way off: got to get that thing out of your head.
Martijn
On Dec 15, 2007 6:25 PM, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> looks pretty cool. what is the scope of this meant to be? should it be
> just an entry point into the main site or should it really have all
> those tabs - kinda replacing some of the functionaliy of the main
> site?
>
> i really like both designs, but i think my preference is the first. it
> would be really cool if the text/version num/published dates were all
> variables passed into the flash object from html - less hassle for us
> to maintain the swf.
>
> -igor
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 4:24 AM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
> >
> > thanks,
> > gerolf
> >
> > [0]
> >
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
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> > > Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
looks pretty cool. what is the scope of this meant to be? should it be
just an entry point into the main site or should it really have all
those tabs - kinda replacing some of the functionaliy of the main
site?
i really like both designs, but i think my preference is the first. it
would be really cool if the text/version num/published dates were all
variables passed into the flash object from html - less hassle for us
to maintain the swf.
-igor
On Dec 15, 2007 4:24 AM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
>
> thanks,
> gerolf
>
> [0]
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
>
> On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --
>
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> > Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
>
Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
I like the first design a lot better than the second one. The rising
sun Wicket logo is fun!
I don't like the coffee cup thing though. I mean, it's well done and
stuff, but I think it is too much toying around. If we'd get the first
one with just that plain 'get wicket' (so the button without the
coffee cup) that'd be great.
Eelco
On Dec 15, 2007 4:24 AM, Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
>
> thanks,
> gerolf
>
> [0]
> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
>
> On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Sent from the Wicket - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
>
Re: [GHOP] Issue 14 - Created an Animated Launch Page for Site
Posted by Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com>.
can you guys take a look at the proposals[0] and comment on them?
thanks,
gerolf
[0]
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/attachment?aid=-7603387649455504599&name=Mockups.zip
On Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM, WalkerP <Wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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>
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