Web site update

[Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>]

I just moved the website to Apache (setting the redirects on  
objectstyle.org so that old URLs continue to work):

http://incubator.apache.org/cayenne/

I also updated the website to conform to the Incubating Project  
Branding Guidelines (if you are still seeing ObjectStyle logo, just  
hit refresh in the browser).

A request to our mentors - please review the new site branding and  
also update the status file to reflect the new URL. I think  
Confluence migration is actually the last item on our infrastructure  
list.

Andrus

Re: Web site update

[Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>]

On Jul 16, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:

>> Actually, the only other project using Confluence, Geronimo, uses  
>> it  as
>> a main Wiki (at least the "Wiki" link from the main G. site  
>> points  to
>> Confluence). So I hope this is not so.
>>
>> I haven't seen any mention that Confluence at Apache wasn't  
>> intended  to
>> be a general purpose Wiki, but rather that it doesn't scale very   
>> well.
>> And the static site plugin (not sure what it is called exactly)  was
>> supposed to address this issue.
>
> we should get that clarified sooner rather than later. Are you
> subscribed to infrastructure@ ?

Agreed. Yes, I am.

Andrus

RE: Web site update

[Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean T. Anderson [mailto:jta@bristowhill.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Web site update

> > We had a discussion on that some time back and there was a desire to
> > preserve Confluence as a Wiki, the main reason being that we are  using
> > it as a documentation engine (relying on its export feature),  but also
> > because it more feature-rich in general, and we have lots of  Confluence
> > content already.
> 
> MoinMoin serves the need of a general Wiki that anyone can update. But
> there's no requirement to have such a Wiki and many projects don't.

I'm hopping in here real late in the game, but I hope that Confluence can be
used as a general wiki.  We use it internally at Servprise, so I have quite
a bit of exposure to it.  I have yet to use anything else that comes
anywhere close to Confluence in terms of features, aesthetics, and overall
usability.

-- 
Kevin

Re: Web site update

["Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>]

Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> 
> On Jul 16, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> 
>> looks good -- and I updated the cayenne status.
>  
> Great, thanks!
> 
>> Regarding the Confluence migration, I understand from infrastructure@
>> that Confluence isn't supposed to be used as a general purpose  wiki. It
>> was installed for committers to maintain the static, published, web 
>> site.
> 
> Actually, the only other project using Confluence, Geronimo, uses it  as
> a main Wiki (at least the "Wiki" link from the main G. site points  to
> Confluence). So I hope this is not so.
> 
> I haven't seen any mention that Confluence at Apache wasn't intended  to
> be a general purpose Wiki, but rather that it doesn't scale very  well.
> And the static site plugin (not sure what it is called exactly)  was
> supposed to address this issue.

we should get that clarified sooner rather than later. Are you
subscribed to infrastructure@ ?

>> Would Cayenne also like a MoinMoin wiki for general purpose use?
> 
> 
> We had a discussion on that some time back and there was a desire to 
> preserve Confluence as a Wiki, the main reason being that we are  using
> it as a documentation engine (relying on its export feature),  but also
> because it more feature-rich in general, and we have lots of  Confluence
> content already.

MoinMoin serves the need of a general Wiki that anyone can update. But
there's no requirement to have such a Wiki and many projects don't.

 -jean

Re: Web site update

[Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>]

On Jul 16, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:

> looks good -- and I updated the cayenne status.

Great, thanks!

> Regarding the Confluence migration, I understand from infrastructure@
> that Confluence isn't supposed to be used as a general purpose  
> wiki. It
> was installed for committers to maintain the static, published, web  
> site.

Actually, the only other project using Confluence, Geronimo, uses it  
as a main Wiki (at least the "Wiki" link from the main G. site points  
to Confluence). So I hope this is not so.

I haven't seen any mention that Confluence at Apache wasn't intended  
to be a general purpose Wiki, but rather that it doesn't scale very  
well. And the static site plugin (not sure what it is called exactly)  
was supposed to address this issue.

> Would Cayenne also like a MoinMoin wiki for general purpose use?

We had a discussion on that some time back and there was a desire to  
preserve Confluence as a Wiki, the main reason being that we are  
using it as a documentation engine (relying on its export feature),  
but also because it more feature-rich in general, and we have lots of  
Confluence content already.

Andrus

Re: Web site update

["Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>]

Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> I just moved the website to Apache (setting the redirects on 
> objectstyle.org so that old URLs continue to work):
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/cayenne/
> 
> I also updated the website to conform to the Incubating Project 
> Branding Guidelines (if you are still seeing ObjectStyle logo, just  hit
> refresh in the browser).
> 
> A request to our mentors - please review the new site branding and  also
> update the status file to reflect the new URL. I think  Confluence
> migration is actually the last item on our infrastructure  list.

looks good -- and I updated the cayenne status.

Regarding the Confluence migration, I understand from infrastructure@
that Confluence isn't supposed to be used as a general purpose wiki. It
was installed for committers to maintain the static, published, web site.

Would Cayenne also like a MoinMoin wiki for general purpose use?

-jean