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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> on 2008/06/20 03:20:48 UTC
TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Hi,
One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for Tuscany.
What should we have?
What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing SCA"?
Thanks,
Raymond
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From: "Robert Burrell Donkin" <ro...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:47 PM
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Website still shows Tuscany
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looks like the Tuscany project is not listed on www.apache.org home page
>> yet. Is that being handled? Otherwise, what do we have to do to make it
>> happen?
>
> you're a TLP now :-)
>
> if you don't make it happen, no one else will :-)
>
> see:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#new-project-hand-over
> http://www.apache.org/dev/
> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-site.html
>
> - robert
>
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Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Simon Nash <na...@apache.org>.
Raymond Feng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for Tuscany.
> What should we have?
>
> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
> SCA"?
>
Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
catch their eye without intimidating them.
Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
"Service Development and Assembly"
"Component model for services"
"Service Construction and Assembly"
"Service Component Architecture"
Other suggestions welcome.
Simon
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Robert Burrell Donkin" <ro...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:47 PM
> To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Website still shows Tuscany
>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Looks like the Tuscany project is not listed on www.apache.org home page
>>> yet. Is that being handled? Otherwise, what do we have to do to make it
>>> happen?
>>
>> you're a TLP now :-)
>>
>> if you don't make it happen, no one else will :-)
>>
>> see:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#new-project-hand-over
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-site.html
>>
>> - robert
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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>>
>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Simon Nash <na...@apache.org>.
Sorry to be out of step, but I don't like like 5. It's too jargony
for the average person hovering on the Apache home page. Most people
at this level won't know what SCA is. Also, it doesn't contain the
word "Service", which IMO is essential in the hover text.
Instead of this, how about "Service Composition Framework"?
Simon
Luciano Resende wrote:
> +1 for 5.
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy
> <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you want to make that 5 - An SCA based Composite Application Framework?
>>
>> ++Vamsi
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are a list of candidates:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
>>> 2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
>>> 3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
>>> 4. Enabling SOA with SCA
>>> 5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
>>> 6. "Service Development and Assembly"
>>> 7. "Component model for services"
>>> 8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
>>> 9. "Service Component Architecture"
>>>
>>> Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can always
>>> change that later on.
>>>
>>> I pick 5 :-).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raymond
>>>
>>> PS: It looks like some replies went to the tuscany-dev while the rest on
>>> incubator-general. Let me add Simon Nash's comments here:
>>>
>>> ============================================================
>>> Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
>>> length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
>>>
>>> I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
>>> the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
>>>
>>> The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
>>> further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
>>> description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
>>> People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
>>> catch their eye without intimidating them.
>>>
>>> Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
>>>
>>> "Service Development and Assembly"
>>> "Component model for services"
>>> "Service Construction and Assembly"
>>> "Service Component Architecture"
>>>
>>> Other suggestions welcome.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>> ============================================================
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "haleh mahbod" <hm...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM
>>> To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> How about something more generic:
>>>> Enabling SOA with SCA
>>>>
>>>> On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <simonslaws@googlemail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
>>>>> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
>>>>>> > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >> Hi,
>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>> > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>>>>>> > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text)
>>>>> for
>>>>>> > > Tuscany.
>>>>>> > > >> What should we have?
>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>> > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
>>>>> Implementing
>>>>>> > > >> SCA"?
>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>> > > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> > > >> Raymond
>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>> > > > Raymond,
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
>>>>>> > punchier?
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Sounds better.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > Yours, Mike.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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>>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
>>>>>> > or
>>>>>> > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for the second one.
>>>>>>
>>>>> s/Application/application/
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
>>>>> of changed files.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
>>>>> the hover text...
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
>>>>> means
>>>>>> > to build them.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Simon
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
+1 for 5.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy
<c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you want to make that 5 - An SCA based Composite Application Framework?
>
> ++Vamsi
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here are a list of candidates:
>>
>>
>> 1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
>> 2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
>> 3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
>> 4. Enabling SOA with SCA
>> 5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
>> 6. "Service Development and Assembly"
>> 7. "Component model for services"
>> 8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
>> 9. "Service Component Architecture"
>>
>> Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can always
>> change that later on.
>>
>> I pick 5 :-).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raymond
>>
>> PS: It looks like some replies went to the tuscany-dev while the rest on
>> incubator-general. Let me add Simon Nash's comments here:
>>
>> ============================================================
>> Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
>> length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
>>
>> I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
>> the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
>>
>> The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
>> further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
>> description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
>> People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
>> catch their eye without intimidating them.
>>
>> Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
>>
>> "Service Development and Assembly"
>> "Component model for services"
>> "Service Construction and Assembly"
>> "Service Component Architecture"
>>
>> Other suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Simon
>> ============================================================
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "haleh mahbod" <hm...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM
>> To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
>>
>>
>> How about something more generic:
>>>
>>> Enabling SOA with SCA
>>>
>>> On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <simonslaws@googlemail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
>>>> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
>>>> > > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >> Hi,
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>>>> > > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text)
>>>> for
>>>> > > > Tuscany.
>>>> > > > >> What should we have?
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
>>>> Implementing
>>>> > > > >> SCA"?
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> Thanks,
>>>> > > > >> Raymond
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > > Raymond,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
>>>> > > punchier?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Sounds better.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Yours, Mike.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
>>>> > > or
>>>> > > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > +1 for the second one.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> s/Application/application/
>>>>
>>>> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
>>>> of changed files.
>>>>
>>>> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
>>>> the hover text...
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
>>>> means
>>>> > > to build them.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Simon
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com>.
Do you want to make that 5 - An SCA based Composite Application Framework?
++Vamsi
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are a list of candidates:
>
>
> 1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
> 3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 4. Enabling SOA with SCA
> 5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
> 6. "Service Development and Assembly"
> 7. "Component model for services"
> 8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
> 9. "Service Component Architecture"
>
> Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can always
> change that later on.
>
> I pick 5 :-).
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> PS: It looks like some replies went to the tuscany-dev while the rest on
> incubator-general. Let me add Simon Nash's comments here:
>
> ============================================================
> Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
> length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
>
> I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
> the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
>
> The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
> further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
> description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
> People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
> catch their eye without intimidating them.
>
> Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
>
> "Service Development and Assembly"
> "Component model for services"
> "Service Construction and Assembly"
> "Service Component Architecture"
>
> Other suggestions welcome.
>
> Simon
> ============================================================
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "haleh mahbod" <hm...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
>
>
> How about something more generic:
>>
>> Enabling SOA with SCA
>>
>> On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <simonslaws@googlemail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
>>> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
>>> > > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> Hi,
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>>> > > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text)
>>> for
>>> > > > Tuscany.
>>> > > > >> What should we have?
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
>>> Implementing
>>> > > > >> SCA"?
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Thanks,
>>> > > > >> Raymond
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > > Raymond,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
>>> > > punchier?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Sounds better.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Yours, Mike.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>>> > >
>>> > > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
>>> > > or
>>> > > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +1 for the second one.
>>> >
>>>
>>> s/Application/application/
>>>
>>> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
>>> of changed files.
>>>
>>> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
>>> the hover text...
>>>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
>>> means
>>> > > to build them.
>>> > >
>>> > > Simon
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
5 is good
On 6/20/08, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here are a list of candidates:
>
>
> 1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
> 3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 4. Enabling SOA with SCA
> 5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
> 6. "Service Development and Assembly"
> 7. "Component model for services"
> 8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
> 9. "Service Component Architecture"
>
> Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can always
> change that later on.
>
> I pick 5 :-).
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> PS: It looks like some replies went to the tuscany-dev while the rest on
> incubator-general. Let me add Simon Nash's comments here:
>
> ============================================================
> Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
> length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
>
> I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
> the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
>
> The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
> further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
> description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
> People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
> catch their eye without intimidating them.
>
> Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
>
> "Service Development and Assembly"
> "Component model for services"
> "Service Construction and Assembly"
> "Service Component Architecture"
>
> Other suggestions welcome.
>
> Simon
> ============================================================
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "haleh mahbod" <hm...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
>
> How about something more generic:
>>
>> Enabling SOA with SCA
>>
>> On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <simonslaws@googlemail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
>>> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
>>> > > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> Hi,
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>>> > > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text)
>>> for
>>> > > > Tuscany.
>>> > > > >> What should we have?
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
>>> Implementing
>>> > > > >> SCA"?
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Thanks,
>>> > > > >> Raymond
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > > Raymond,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
>>> > > punchier?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Sounds better.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Yours, Mike.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>>> > >
>>> > > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
>>> > > or
>>> > > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +1 for the second one.
>>> >
>>>
>>> s/Application/application/
>>>
>>> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
>>> of changed files.
>>>
>>> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
>>> the hover text...
>>>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
>>> means
>>> > > to build them.
>>> > >
>>> > > Simon
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Dan Becker <da...@gmail.com>.
Raymond Feng wrote:
> 1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
> 3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
> 4. Enabling SOA with SCA
> 5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
> 6. "Service Development and Assembly"
> 7. "Component model for services"
> 8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
> 9. "Service Component Architecture"
>
> Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can
> always change that later on.
>
> I pick 5 :-).
I like a variation on 1.
"Composite SOA Framework supporting SCA."
It seems to me that composites and SOA are the most important features
of Tuscany.
--
Thanks, Dan Becker
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>.
Here are a list of candidates:
1. Composite SOA Applications using SCA
2. Composite SOA Application Framework using SCA
3. Build Composite SOA Applications using SCA
4. Enabling SOA with SCA
5. A SCA based Composite Application Framework
6. "Service Development and Assembly"
7. "Component model for services"
8. "Service Construction and Assembly"
9. "Service Component Architecture"
Let's pick one and move forward. It's just the hover text and we can always
change that later on.
I pick 5 :-).
Thanks,
Raymond
PS: It looks like some replies went to the tuscany-dev while the rest on
incubator-general. Let me add Simon Nash's comments here:
============================================================
Looking at other projects, about 4 words seems to be the normal
length of this, though a few take 10 or more.
I think we need something that doesn't use "jargon" but gives
the essence of Tuscany in plain language.
The goal is just to get someone to click on the link and explore
further. IMO, we shouldn't try to give a full technically accurate
description, just an idea of what kind of domain the project covers.
People at this level are just causally browsing and we want to
catch their eye without intimidating them.
Here are few ideas. They are deliberately short and "dumbed down".
"Service Development and Assembly"
"Component model for services"
"Service Construction and Assembly"
"Service Component Architecture"
Other suggestions welcome.
Simon
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From: "haleh mahbod" <hm...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM
To: <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
> How about something more generic:
>
> Enabling SOA with SCA
>
> On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
>> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
>> > > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>> > > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for
>> > > > Tuscany.
>> > > > >> What should we have?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
>> Implementing
>> > > > >> SCA"?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> Raymond
>> > > > >>
>> > > > > Raymond,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
>> > > punchier?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>> > > >
>> > > > Sounds better.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yours, Mike.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>> > >
>> > > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
>> > > or
>> > > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 for the second one.
>> >
>>
>> s/Application/application/
>>
>> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
>> of changed files.
>>
>> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
>> the hover text...
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
>> means
>> > > to build them.
>> > >
>> > > Simon
>> > >
>> >
>>
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>>
>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
How about something more generic:
Enabling SOA with SCA
On 6/20/08, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <
> c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
> > > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> > > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for
> > > > Tuscany.
> > > > >> What should we have?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework
> Implementing
> > > > >> SCA"?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Raymond
> > > > >>
> > > > > Raymond,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
> > > punchier?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
> > > >
> > > > Sounds better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yours, Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
> > >
> > > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
> > > or
> > > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
> >
> >
> > +1 for the second one.
> >
>
> s/Application/application/
>
> Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
> of changed files.
>
> It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
> the hover text...
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the
> means
> > > to build them.
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> >
>
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>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 20/06/2008, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
> > > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Raymond Feng wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> > > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for
> > > Tuscany.
> > > >> What should we have?
> > > >>
> > > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
> > > >> SCA"?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Raymond
> > > >>
> > > > Raymond,
> > > >
> > > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
> > punchier?
> > > >
> > > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
> > >
> > > Sounds better.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yours, Mike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
> >
> > "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
> > or
> > "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>
>
> +1 for the second one.
>
s/Application/application/
Note that the title can be changed later, but doing so creates a lot
of changed files.
It does not have to be perfect, as not everyone will bother looking at
the hover text...
>
> >
> >
> > As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the means
> > to build them.
> >
> > Simon
> >
>
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Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
> > mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Raymond Feng wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> > >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for
> > Tuscany.
> > >> What should we have?
> > >>
> > >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
> > >> SCA"?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Raymond
> > >>
> > > Raymond,
> > >
> > > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and
> punchier?
> > >
> > > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
> >
> > Sounds better.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yours, Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
>
> "Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
> or
> "Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
+1 for the second one.
>
>
> As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the means
> to build them.
>
> Simon
>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
> mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Raymond Feng wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> >> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for
> Tuscany.
> >> What should we have?
> >>
> >> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
> >> SCA"?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Raymond
> >>
> > Raymond,
> >
> > I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and punchier?
> >
> > "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
>
> Sounds better.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours, Mike.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
>
I fall in between Mike and Raymond...
"Composite SOA Application framework using SCA"
or
"Build composite SOA Applications using SCA"
As we are not actually delivering composite SOA applications but the means
to build them.
Simon
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Mike Edwards <
mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com> wrote:
> Raymond Feng wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
>> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for Tuscany.
>> What should we have?
>>
>> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
>> SCA"?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raymond
>>
> Raymond,
>
> I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and punchier?
>
> "Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
Sounds better.
>
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
>
>
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>
Re: TLP migration: Adding Tuscany to http://www.apache.org
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
Raymond Feng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of the steps for TLP migration is to add Tuscany to
> http://www.apache.org. We need to have a title (hover text) for Tuscany.
> What should we have?
>
> What about "A Distributed Composite Application Framework Implementing
> SCA"?
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
Raymond,
I think that's a little long - how about something shorter and punchier?
"Composite SOA Applications using SCA"
Yours, Mike.
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