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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Joachim <ph...@diktaturen.com> on 2003/10/01 10:51:00 UTC
[users@httpd] Random page not found error
Hello there,
I'm working on a site that uses query strings to include the pages.
domain.com/?section=news
and so on. Most of the time, this raises no problems, but sometimes I
get a "Page not found error". Then I press Refresh, and the correct page
shows up.
This is happening on my local Apache 2.0.x server, and on my remote
host, with Apache 1.3.x.
I'm not very familiar with the internals of Apache, but error.log shows
events like this:
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:51 2003] [notice] Parent: Created child process 1812
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:51 2003] [notice] Child 1812: Child process is running
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:51 2003] [notice] Child 1812: Acquired the start
mutex.
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:51 2003] [notice] Child 1812: Starting 250 worker
threads.
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Parent: child process exited with
status 4294967295 -- Restarting.
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Parent: Created child process 528
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Child 528: Child process is running
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Child 528: Acquired the start mutex.
[Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Child 528: Starting 250 worker
threads.
I'm building this site with PHP, but I don't think that is the problem,
since I don't get any page at all, not even the layout, that is included
in index.php.
The ONLY thing I can think about is that I maybe should change my links
from
/?section=blah
to
/index.php?section=blah
but that shouldn't make any difference, I guess.. But what will? I need
some tips, since I don't feel like experimenting, and changing all the
links for no reason.. It happens totally randomly, so just changing a
few links hasn't worked.. What the hell is this, I've never seen it
before!
Help appreciated.
Joachim.
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joachim <ph...@diktaturen.com>.
Nope, no proxy involved.
Thanks for the tip to disable 'user-friendly' error messages.
I'm working on getting the 'real' error code in IE, but I have been
clicking for 10 minutes without any luck.. as I said, it comes and
goes.. sometimes it's on every 3rd link, sometimes it doesn't show up in
hours.
The error does not appear on URI's that don't exist, localhost/aaaa and
such, return a 404 like they should.
Thanks,
Joachim
-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Marques [mailto:adm@seara.com]
Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 15:10
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Hi there,
Are you using any sort of proxy or is it a "direct" connection to your
http
server?
Disable IE "user-friendly" http error messages in browser options;
Does the error appears on any url typed? Try one file that doesn't exist
such
as http://server/aaaa and check your server log.
HTH,
Pedro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joachim" <ph...@diktaturen.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
> Nope, I'm not sure, maybe it is. It's happening on both servers with
> both of my computers. The requests do NOT show up in my local
> access.log, I only get those other entries in error.log.. That would
> kind of mean it's client based though, or?
> I'm using IE 6 on both machines, and the error is
> "Cannot find server", "The page cannot be displayed".
> But I have never had such errors.. Not that I have noticed at least,
and
> not so frequently.. Why would my site provoke this? I don't have any
> 'special effects', and I've even taken care to write all pages with
> valid html & css (w3c).
> I just now tried to provoke the same error with Opera 7, but it has
not
> yet shown up.. It comes and goes in IE though, so it's no proof that
> it's not the servers.
> It feels pretty hopeless, but thanks for your time and interest. I'll
> wait and see if somebody has maybe experienced the same problem.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Slive [mailto:joshua@slive.ca]
> Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 14:34
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I'm working on a site that uses query strings to include the pages.
> >
> > domain.com/?section=news
> >
> > and so on. Most of the time, this raises no problems, but sometimes
I
> > get a "Page not found error". Then I press Refresh, and the correct
> page
> > shows up.
> > This is happening on my local Apache 2.0.x server, and on my remote
> > host, with Apache 1.3.x.
>
> Are you sure this isn't a client issue? Do the requests appear in the
> apache access_log? What exact error message do you get at the client?
>
> Joshua.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Pedro Marques <ad...@seara.com>.
Hi there,
Are you using any sort of proxy or is it a "direct" connection to your http
server?
Disable IE "user-friendly" http error messages in browser options;
Does the error appears on any url typed? Try one file that doesn't exist
such
as http://server/aaaa and check your server log.
HTH,
Pedro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joachim" <ph...@diktaturen.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
> Nope, I'm not sure, maybe it is. It's happening on both servers with
> both of my computers. The requests do NOT show up in my local
> access.log, I only get those other entries in error.log.. That would
> kind of mean it's client based though, or?
> I'm using IE 6 on both machines, and the error is
> "Cannot find server", "The page cannot be displayed".
> But I have never had such errors.. Not that I have noticed at least, and
> not so frequently.. Why would my site provoke this? I don't have any
> 'special effects', and I've even taken care to write all pages with
> valid html & css (w3c).
> I just now tried to provoke the same error with Opera 7, but it has not
> yet shown up.. It comes and goes in IE though, so it's no proof that
> it's not the servers.
> It feels pretty hopeless, but thanks for your time and interest. I'll
> wait and see if somebody has maybe experienced the same problem.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Slive [mailto:joshua@slive.ca]
> Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 14:34
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I'm working on a site that uses query strings to include the pages.
> >
> > domain.com/?section=news
> >
> > and so on. Most of the time, this raises no problems, but sometimes I
> > get a "Page not found error". Then I press Refresh, and the correct
> page
> > shows up.
> > This is happening on my local Apache 2.0.x server, and on my remote
> > host, with Apache 1.3.x.
>
> Are you sure this isn't a client issue? Do the requests appear in the
> apache access_log? What exact error message do you get at the client?
>
> Joshua.
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joachim <ph...@diktaturen.com>.
I'm afraid a publicly-accessible URI is not a possibility right now. If
the problem persists, I will try to make one available.
Thanks for your tips,
Joachim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Slive [mailto:joshua@slive.ca]
Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 15:07
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
> Nope, I'm not sure, maybe it is. It's happening on both servers with
> both of my computers. The requests do NOT show up in my local
> access.log
It would be very rare for apache to receive a request and not log it.
So
this implies to me that it is a client issue. But it is difficult to
tell
more details. Perhaps you could provide us with a publically-acessible
URL that exhibits the problem.
The other possibility is to put a sniffer on the wire and see exactly
what
the client is sending.
Joshua.
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
> Nope, I'm not sure, maybe it is. It's happening on both servers with
> both of my computers. The requests do NOT show up in my local
> access.log
It would be very rare for apache to receive a request and not log it. So
this implies to me that it is a client issue. But it is difficult to tell
more details. Perhaps you could provide us with a publically-acessible
URL that exhibits the problem.
The other possibility is to put a sniffer on the wire and see exactly what
the client is sending.
Joshua.
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:01:39 +0200, Joachim wrote:
>�I'm using IE 6 on both machines, and the error is "Cannot find
>�server",
Issued by MSIE that message usually means that IE either can't find the server (the DNS lookup fails) or that it can't connect to the server (it found the server but either it won't answer or the answer is copletely broken).
I'd suggest you try with Mozilla Firebird and the Live HTTP Headers plugin or maybe use a packet sniffer to see exactly what server IE is trying to connect to at what port.
Regards
/Jonas
--
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joachim <ph...@diktaturen.com>.
Nope, I'm not sure, maybe it is. It's happening on both servers with
both of my computers. The requests do NOT show up in my local
access.log, I only get those other entries in error.log.. That would
kind of mean it's client based though, or?
I'm using IE 6 on both machines, and the error is
"Cannot find server", "The page cannot be displayed".
But I have never had such errors.. Not that I have noticed at least, and
not so frequently.. Why would my site provoke this? I don't have any
'special effects', and I've even taken care to write all pages with
valid html & css (w3c).
I just now tried to provoke the same error with Opera 7, but it has not
yet shown up.. It comes and goes in IE though, so it's no proof that
it's not the servers.
It feels pretty hopeless, but thanks for your time and interest. I'll
wait and see if somebody has maybe experienced the same problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Slive [mailto:joshua@slive.ca]
Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 14:34
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> I'm working on a site that uses query strings to include the pages.
>
> domain.com/?section=news
>
> and so on. Most of the time, this raises no problems, but sometimes I
> get a "Page not found error". Then I press Refresh, and the correct
page
> shows up.
> This is happening on my local Apache 2.0.x server, and on my remote
> host, with Apache 1.3.x.
Are you sure this isn't a client issue? Do the requests appear in the
apache access_log? What exact error message do you get at the client?
Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Joachim wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> I'm working on a site that uses query strings to include the pages.
>
> domain.com/?section=news
>
> and so on. Most of the time, this raises no problems, but sometimes I
> get a "Page not found error". Then I press Refresh, and the correct page
> shows up.
> This is happening on my local Apache 2.0.x server, and on my remote
> host, with Apache 1.3.x.
Are you sure this isn't a client issue? Do the requests appear in the
apache access_log? What exact error message do you get at the client?
Joshua.
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RE: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Joachim <ph...@diktaturen.com>.
I already have this:
error_reporting = E_ALL
display_errors = On
in php.ini.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I'm running Apache 2 on Windows XP
locally, and the remote host is on Linux, with Apache 1.3. Same problem
though. I am unfortunately unable to examine the error logs of the
remote host.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dessent [mailto:brian@dessent.net]
Sent: den 1 oktober 2003 11:11
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Joachim wrote:
> [Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Parent: child process exited with
> status 4294967295 -- Restarting.
Try turning on all PHP warnings/errors/messages in php.ini and see if
there's anything that would indicate that mod_php encountered an error
of some type.
Brian
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Re: [users@httpd] Random page not found error
Posted by Brian Dessent <br...@dessent.net>.
Joachim wrote:
> [Wed Oct 01 10:40:53 2003] [notice] Parent: child process exited with
> status 4294967295 -- Restarting.
Try turning on all PHP warnings/errors/messages in php.ini and see if
there's anything that would indicate that mod_php encountered an error
of some type.
Brian
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