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PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Hello PLC4X Developers,
As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
We started the discussion to change our build system.
Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
purposes.
Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It is
more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull request
:-)
Cheers,
Lukas
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Ben Hutcheson <be...@gmail.com>.
PR-354 contains an updated plc4py/pom.xml which uses pipenv, the Pipfile is
in .gitignore and is generated from setup.py as part of the build.
This makes it so we don't have to maintain the Pipfile and setup.py and can
just use setup.py.
However the downside is that running maven install takes way too long as it
resolves the dependencies each time.
PyCharm also thinks it's an external library when using an PipEnv
interpreter as the Pipfile treats plc4py as an imported package.
This thread is kind of interesting.
https://github.com/pypa/pipenv/issues/1911
Using venv we don't need an external dependency, and we can specify the
location of the venv. I'm kind of leaning towards it.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:15 AM Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to moving on from poetry to setuptools.
> I’m sure we can find some apache examples for pushing to pypi that make up
> for what poetry automates
>
> From: Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com> <ot...@gmail.com>
> Reply: dev@plc4x.apache.org <de...@plc4x.apache.org> <de...@plc4x.apache.org>
> Date: April 19, 2022 at 15:52:24
> To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <de...@plc4x.apache.org> <de...@plc4x.apache.org>
> Subject: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing
> not suitable anymore
>
> Hello PLC4X Developers,
>
> As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
>
> We started the discussion to change our build system.
>
> Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
>
> Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
> right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
> purposes.
>
> Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
>
> My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It
> is
> more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull request
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
+1 to moving on from poetry to setuptools.
I’m sure we can find some apache examples for pushing to pypi that make up
for what poetry automates
From: Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com> <ot...@gmail.com>
Reply: dev@plc4x.apache.org <de...@plc4x.apache.org> <de...@plc4x.apache.org>
Date: April 19, 2022 at 15:52:24
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <de...@plc4x.apache.org> <de...@plc4x.apache.org>
Subject: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing
not suitable anymore
Hello PLC4X Developers,
As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
We started the discussion to change our build system.
Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
purposes.
Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It is
more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull request
:-)
Cheers,
Lukas
RE: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
So let's see if this then works on windows as on my system I couldn't get plc4py to work :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hutcheson <be...@gmail.com>
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. April 2022 11:29
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Subject: Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
pip-tools sounds good, an added benefit is it uses pyproject.tml so there shouldn't need to be too many updates to it to get it to work :)
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:09 PM Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I mean it is supported by jazzband :-) :
> https://github.com/jazzband/pip-tools
>
> https://pip-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>
> Am Mi., 20. Apr. 2022 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Sebastian Rühl <
> sruehl@apache.org
> >:
>
> > pip-tools SGTM
> >
> > - Sebastian
> >
> > On 2022/04/19 19:52:03 Lukas Ott wrote:
> > > Hello PLC4X Developers,
> > >
> > > As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
> > >
> > > We started the discussion to change our build system.
> > >
> > > Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> > > https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
> > >
> > > Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and
> > > was
> the
> > > right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for
> > > our purposes.
> > >
> > > Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> > > https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_pi
> ptools_what_do_you_use/
> > >
> > > My suggestion would be to go with
> > > https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/
> > It is
> > > more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the
> > > Pull
> > request
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Lukas
> > >
> >
>
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Ben Hutcheson <be...@gmail.com>.
pip-tools sounds good, an added benefit is it uses pyproject.tml so there
shouldn't need to be too many updates to it to get it to work :)
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:09 PM Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I mean it is supported by jazzband :-) :
> https://github.com/jazzband/pip-tools
>
> https://pip-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>
> Am Mi., 20. Apr. 2022 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Sebastian Rühl <
> sruehl@apache.org
> >:
>
> > pip-tools SGTM
> >
> > - Sebastian
> >
> > On 2022/04/19 19:52:03 Lukas Ott wrote:
> > > Hello PLC4X Developers,
> > >
> > > As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
> > >
> > > We started the discussion to change our build system.
> > >
> > > Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> > > https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
> > >
> > > Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was
> the
> > > right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
> > > purposes.
> > >
> > > Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> > > https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
> > >
> > > My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/
> > It is
> > > more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull
> > request
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Lukas
> > >
> >
>
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>.
I mean it is supported by jazzband :-) :
https://github.com/jazzband/pip-tools
https://pip-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
Am Mi., 20. Apr. 2022 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Sebastian Rühl <sruehl@apache.org
>:
> pip-tools SGTM
>
> - Sebastian
>
> On 2022/04/19 19:52:03 Lukas Ott wrote:
> > Hello PLC4X Developers,
> >
> > As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
> >
> > We started the discussion to change our build system.
> >
> > Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> > https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
> >
> > Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
> > right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
> > purposes.
> >
> > Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> > https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
> >
> >
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
> >
> > My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/
> It is
> > more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull
> request
> > :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lukas
> >
>
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Sebastian Rühl <sr...@apache.org>.
pip-tools SGTM
- Sebastian
On 2022/04/19 19:52:03 Lukas Ott wrote:
> Hello PLC4X Developers,
>
> As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
>
> We started the discussion to change our build system.
>
> Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
>
> Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
> right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
> purposes.
>
> Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
>
> My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It is
> more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull request
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Stable and reliable is always good :-)
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________________________________
From: Lukas Ott <ot...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 9:52:03 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <de...@plc4x.apache.org>
Subject: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Hello PLC4X Developers,
As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
We started the discussion to change our build system.
Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was the
right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
purposes.
Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
My suggestion would be to go with https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It is
more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull request
:-)
Cheers,
Lukas
Re: PLC4Py - Change of Build System - Poetry is for the time beeing not suitable anymore
Posted by Stephen Snow <s4...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 2022-04-19 at 21:52 +0200, Lukas Ott wrote:
> Hello PLC4X Developers,
>
> As shown here: https://github.com/apache/plc4x/pull/348
>
> We started the discussion to change our build system.
>
> Poetry has at the moment an increasing amount of issues:
> https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues
>
> Which are not fixed soon. Even that Poetry is a good solution and was
> the
> right decision to begin with. We need a solution that works for our
> purposes.
>
> Therefore here are some links comparing different possibilities:
> https://remastr.com/blog/pip-pipenv-poetry-comparison
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/limd9t/poetry_vs_pipenv_vs_piptools_what_do_you_use/
>
> My suggestion would be to go with
> https://pypi.org/project/pip-tools/ It is
> more low-level but also more stable / reliable.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
With python I've only ever used npm since I run Fedora Linux. I find it
very useful, but I am not a daily user of it.
Stephen
> Thank you Ben! It is really fun to read / see your work in the Pull
> request
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas