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[VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Donald Woods and I have put together a proposal for the incubator to
bring agimatec-validation into the ASF (see
http://markmail.org/message/xv4p6twshqznxfcp). The draft proposal is
here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
agimatec-validation is an implementation of JSR 303 - the bean
validation framework.
The idea at the moment is that (hopefully) this will eventually end up
back here as a replacement for Commons Validator. We would like the
Commons PMC to be the sponsor for this incubating project.
[ ] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
[ ] -1 No because...
Being a sponsor doesn't commit Commons or agimatec-validation to have
to *graduate* to Commons, just that its the current preference given a
successful incubation.
In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
[ ] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
[ ] -1 Bad idea because...
Any Commons committers would be very welcome to join the incubator
podling - please just add yourself to the propsal.
Niall
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
Niall Pemberton wrote:
>
> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
...
>
> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
Phil
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Colebourne
<sc...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>> [ ] -1 No because...
+1.
>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
+1, and I'm hoping we do lots more incubations for Commons.
[Distracting aside.... enough that we could a) spin off a mailing list
for incubating projects and b) move all sandbox projects into it]
Hen
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Since the proposal discussion on Incubator didn't lead to a conclusion
> on whether this should be an IP Clearance by Commons or a podling for an
> existing project (which is now dormant) I would like your consideration
> of allowing us to update the proposal to be sponsored by the Incubator
> PMC and we'll revisit where the podling lands at graduation time.
I think its up to the project going into incubation to decide who they
want to sponsor. So I would say just go ahead and update it.
Niall
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
>
> On 12/1/09 2:45 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list, so
>>> we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> Thanks for driving this!
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>>
>>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Niall
>>>>
>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi Donald,
since I was included in the contributors list, I'd like to renew of my
intention in helping you.
My "status" is changed, from ICLA signed to ASF committer (Cocoon3 and
committing to commons-sandbox)
Please let me know whatever I can do to submit the proposal.
Have a nice day,
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Since the proposal discussion on Incubator didn't lead to a conclusion
> on whether this should be an IP Clearance by Commons or a podling for an
> existing project (which is now dormant) I would like your consideration
> of allowing us to update the proposal to be sponsored by the Incubator
> PMC and we'll revisit where the podling lands at graduation time.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
>
> On 12/1/09 2:45 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev
> list, so
> >> we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
> >
> > Niall
> >
> >> Thanks for driving this!
> >> -Donald
> >>
> >>
> >> Niall Pemberton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <
> rahul.akolkar@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
> >>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> <snip/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> >>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
> >>>>>
> >>>> <snap/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
> >>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
> >>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> >>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
> >>>>>
> >>>> <snip/>
> >>>>
> >>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
> >>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
> >>>> bit needs to be updated?)
> >>>
> >>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
> >>>
> >>> Niall
> >>>
> >>>> -Rahul
> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Thanks Donald for pushing it!
I'm not a commons guy, but I wait desperately for getting the agimatec stuff over to apache (already using it in a productive project).
What about the package names?
org.apache.commons.validator
or e.g.
org.apache.openvalidator
?
It would be nice to know where the ride goes too, because I'm not very excited if we would have to refactor the whole code over and over again.
txs and LieGrue,
strub
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> From: Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
> To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>, private@commons.apache.org
> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:44 AM
> Since the proposal discussion on
> Incubator didn't lead to a conclusion
> on whether this should be an IP Clearance by Commons or a
> podling for an
> existing project (which is now dormant) I would like your
> consideration
> of allowing us to update the proposal to be sponsored by
> the Incubator
> PMC and we'll revisit where the podling lands at graduation
> time.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
>
> On 12/1/09 2:45 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post
> the Results to the dev list, so
> >> we can start discussing the proposal on the
> incubator@ list?
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
> >
> > Niall
> >
> >> Thanks for driving this!
> >> -Donald
> >>
> >>
> >> Niall Pemberton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar
> <ra...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall
> Pemberton
> >>>> <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> <snip/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> >>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
> >>>>>
> >>>> <snap/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In order to make it easier for commons
> to *observe* the incubation
> >>>>> effort does anyone object to
> discussion taking place on dev@commons
> >>>>> rather than a separate list and
> commits going to commits@commons?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> >>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
> >>>>>
> >>>> <snip/>
> >>>>
> >>>> You mention using commits@commons here but
> the proposal on the
> >>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list
> will be created (perhaps that
> >>>> bit needs to be updated?)
> >>>
> >>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
> >>>
> >>> Niall
> >>>
> >>>> -Rahul
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Since the proposal discussion on Incubator didn't lead to a conclusion
on whether this should be an IP Clearance by Commons or a podling for an
existing project (which is now dormant) I would like your consideration
of allowing us to update the proposal to be sponsored by the Incubator
PMC and we'll revisit where the podling lands at graduation time.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
Thanks,
Donald
On 12/1/09 2:45 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list, so
>> we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>
> http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
>
> Niall
>
>> Thanks for driving this!
>> -Donald
>>
>>
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>
>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>
>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>
>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>
>>>> <snip/>
>>>>
>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>
>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>
>>> Niall
>>>
>>>> -Rahul
>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list, so
> we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
Niall
> Thanks for driving this!
> -Donald
>
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <snip/>
>>>>
>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>
>>> <snap/>
>>>>
>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>
>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>
>>> <snip/>
>>>
>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>
>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> -Rahul
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi Niall, validation team,
same here, I'm available :)
Simo
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
> me know about it.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Niall, any update on the voting?
>>
>> The vote passed on Nov 24th:
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>>> Donald Woods wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list,
>>>> so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for driving this!
>>>> -Donald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Niall
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
OK, I'll kick-off the discussion later today.
-Donald
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Sorry guys. Guess using my Yahoo mail and Thunderbird for list
>> subscriptions was a bad idea.... I've been seeing other posts to the
>> dev@commons list and directly to me, but none about this thread until today
>> for some reason....
>>
>> Niall, let me know if you need any help collecting the source tar to post
>> with the SGA.
>
> I have checked the foundation records and found the SGA (its recorded
> now as keba-agimatec.pdf). I don't think we need to do anything with
> the source until the proposal has been accepted by the incubator. So
> the next thing is to post the proposal to general@incubator. Give an
> opportunity for discussion - once thats complete then call a vote.
>
> I was hoping you would do that, but if not then I can.
>
> Niall
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
>>
>>
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>>>>> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>>>>>> me know about it.
>>>>> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
>>>>> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
>>>>> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
>>>>> general@incubator.
>>>> I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing
>>>> list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes). I've
>>>> nudged him off-list.
>>> I tried that and got no response :(
>>>
>>> Niall
>>>
>>>> --kevan
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry guys. Guess using my Yahoo mail and Thunderbird for list
> subscriptions was a bad idea.... I've been seeing other posts to the
> dev@commons list and directly to me, but none about this thread until today
> for some reason....
>
> Niall, let me know if you need any help collecting the source tar to post
> with the SGA.
I have checked the foundation records and found the SGA (its recorded
now as keba-agimatec.pdf). I don't think we need to do anything with
the source until the proposal has been accepted by the incubator. So
the next thing is to post the proposal to general@incubator. Give an
opportunity for discussion - once thats complete then call a vote.
I was hoping you would do that, but if not then I can.
Niall
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>>>> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>>>>> me know about it.
>>>>
>>>> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
>>>> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
>>>> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
>>>> general@incubator.
>>>
>>> I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing
>>> list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes). I've
>>> nudged him off-list.
>>
>> I tried that and got no response :(
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> --kevan
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
They were all sitting in the spam folder in Yahoo mail. Sorry for that.
-Donald
Donald Woods wrote:
> Sorry guys. Guess using my Yahoo mail and Thunderbird for list
> subscriptions was a bad idea.... I've been seeing other posts to the
> dev@commons list and directly to me, but none about this thread until
> today for some reason....
>
> Niall, let me know if you need any help collecting the source tar to
> post with the SGA.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>>>> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>>>>> me know about it.
>>>> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
>>>> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
>>>> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
>>>> general@incubator.
>>> I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing
>>> list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes).
>>> I've nudged him off-list.
>>
>> I tried that and got no response :(
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> --kevan
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Sorry guys. Guess using my Yahoo mail and Thunderbird for list
subscriptions was a bad idea.... I've been seeing other posts to the
dev@commons list and directly to me, but none about this thread until
today for some reason....
Niall, let me know if you need any help collecting the source tar to
post with the SGA.
Thanks,
Donald
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>>> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>>>> me know about it.
>>> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
>>> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
>>> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
>>> general@incubator.
>> I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes). I've nudged him off-list.
>
> I tried that and got no response :(
>
> Niall
>
>> --kevan
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>>> me know about it.
>>
>> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
>> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
>> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
>> general@incubator.
>
> I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes). I've nudged him off-list.
I tried that and got no response :(
Niall
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
>> me know about it.
>
> I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
> message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
> around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
> general@incubator.
I think Donald must be having subscription problems with this mailing list. Don't think he's seen either response (or the other notes). I've nudged him off-list.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
> me know about it.
I was waiting for Donald to take the lead. Hes posted a couple of
message about the vote which I responded to but he doesn't seem to be
around much. Its ready AFAIC to post the proposal to
general@incubator.
Niall
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Niall, any update on the voting?
>>
>> The vote passed on Nov 24th:
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>>> Donald Woods wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list,
>>>> so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for driving this!
>>>> -Donald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Niall
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
So Niall, whats next and please if there is anything I can help in let
me know about it.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Niall, any update on the voting?
>
> The vote passed on Nov 24th:
>
> http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
>
> Niall
>
>> -Donald
>>
>>
>> Donald Woods wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list,
>>> so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for driving this!
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>>
>>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Niall
>>>>
>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niall, any update on the voting?
The vote passed on Nov 24th:
http://markmail.org/message/m6a5hfdunoxkox6n
Niall
> -Donald
>
>
> Donald Woods wrote:
>>
>> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev list,
>> so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for driving this!
>> -Donald
>>
>>
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>
>>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>>
>>>> <snap/>
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>>
>>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>>
>>>> <snip/>
>>>>
>>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>>
>>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>>
>>> Niall
>>>
>>>> -Rahul
>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Niall, any update on the voting?
-Donald
Donald Woods wrote:
> Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev
> list, so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
>
>
> Thanks for driving this!
> -Donald
>
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar
>> <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <snip/>
>>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>>
>>> <snap/>
>>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>>
>>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>>
>>> <snip/>
>>>
>>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>>> bit needs to be updated?)
>>
>> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>>
>> Niall
>>
>>> -Rahul
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Is the voting complete? If so, can you post the Results to the dev
list, so we can start discussing the proposal on the incubator@ list?
Thanks for driving this!
-Donald
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
>> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <snip/>
>>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>>
>> <snap/>
>>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>>
>>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
>> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
>> bit needs to be updated?)
>
> Good catch I've updated the proposal.
>
> Niall
>
>> -Rahul
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip/>
>>
>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>
> <snap/>
>>
>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>
>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>
> <snip/>
>
> You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
> Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
> bit needs to be updated?)
Good catch I've updated the proposal.
Niall
> -Rahul
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip/>
>
> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
<snap/>
>
> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>
> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
<snip/>
You mention using commits@commons here but the proposal on the
Incubator wiki suggests a commits list will be created (perhaps that
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
+! from me btw
Niall
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Donald Woods and I have put together a proposal for the incubator to
> bring agimatec-validation into the ASF (see
> http://markmail.org/message/xv4p6twshqznxfcp). The draft proposal is
> here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
> agimatec-validation is an implementation of JSR 303 - the bean
> validation framework.
>
> The idea at the moment is that (hopefully) this will eventually end up
> back here as a replacement for Commons Validator. We would like the
> Commons PMC to be the sponsor for this incubating project.
>
> [ ] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
> Being a sponsor doesn't commit Commons or agimatec-validation to have
> to *graduate* to Commons, just that its the current preference given a
> successful incubation.
>
> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>
> [ ] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
> Any Commons committers would be very welcome to join the incubator
> podling - please just add yourself to the propsal.
>
> Niall
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.at>.
Hi folks,
really looking forward to that ...
[X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
[ ] -1 No because...
[X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
[ ] -1 Bad idea because...
Cheers,
Siegfried Goeschl
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> Donald Woods and I have put together a proposal for the incubator to
> bring agimatec-validation into the ASF (see
> http://markmail.org/message/xv4p6twshqznxfcp). The draft proposal is
> here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
> agimatec-validation is an implementation of JSR 303 - the bean
> validation framework.
>
> The idea at the moment is that (hopefully) this will eventually end up
> back here as a replacement for Commons Validator. We would like the
> Commons PMC to be the sponsor for this incubating project.
>
> [ ] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
> Being a sponsor doesn't commit Commons or agimatec-validation to have
> to *graduate* to Commons, just that its the current preference given a
> successful incubation.
>
> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>
> [ ] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
> Any Commons committers would be very welcome to join the incubator
> podling - please just add yourself to the propsal.
>
> Niall
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation
incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
Just a FYI the incubator proposal is being voted on general@incubator,
but they have decied to have the Incubator PMC sponsor and use their
own set of mailing lists:
http://markmail.org/message/37oaihbwwiuptt4q
It may well be that Commons is still their desired graduation
destination when the time comes.
Niall
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Both votes (Sponsorship & using Commons mailing lists) have passed
> with eight votes (seven binding) from the following people:
>
> Niall Pemberton
> Stephen Colebourne
> Henri Yandell
> Siegfried Goeschl
> Phil Steitz
> Rahul Akolkar
> Oliver Heger
> Tommaso Teofili
>
> thanks, the next stage is to take the proposal to the incubator
>
> Niall
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Donald Woods and I have put together a proposal for the incubator to
>> bring agimatec-validation into the ASF (see
>> http://markmail.org/message/xv4p6twshqznxfcp). The draft proposal is
>> here:
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>>
>> agimatec-validation is an implementation of JSR 303 - the bean
>> validation framework.
>>
>> The idea at the moment is that (hopefully) this will eventually end up
>> back here as a replacement for Commons Validator. We would like the
>> Commons PMC to be the sponsor for this incubating project.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>
>> Being a sponsor doesn't commit Commons or agimatec-validation to have
>> to *graduate* to Commons, just that its the current preference given a
>> successful incubation.
>>
>> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
>> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
>> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>>
>> [ ] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>
>> Any Commons committers would be very welcome to join the incubator
>> podling - please just add yourself to the propsal.
>>
>> Niall
>>
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[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation
incunbation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
Both votes (Sponsorship & using Commons mailing lists) have passed
with eight votes (seven binding) from the following people:
Niall Pemberton
Stephen Colebourne
Henri Yandell
Siegfried Goeschl
Phil Steitz
Rahul Akolkar
Oliver Heger
Tommaso Teofili
thanks, the next stage is to take the proposal to the incubator
Niall
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Donald Woods and I have put together a proposal for the incubator to
> bring agimatec-validation into the ASF (see
> http://markmail.org/message/xv4p6twshqznxfcp). The draft proposal is
> here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
> agimatec-validation is an implementation of JSR 303 - the bean
> validation framework.
>
> The idea at the moment is that (hopefully) this will eventually end up
> back here as a replacement for Commons Validator. We would like the
> Commons PMC to be the sponsor for this incubating project.
>
> [ ] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
> Being a sponsor doesn't commit Commons or agimatec-validation to have
> to *graduate* to Commons, just that its the current preference given a
> successful incubation.
>
> In order to make it easier for commons to *observe* the incubation
> effort does anyone object to discussion taking place on dev@commons
> rather than a separate list and commits going to commits@commons?
>
> [ ] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
> Any Commons committers would be very welcome to join the incubator
> podling - please just add yourself to the propsal.
>
> Niall
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
I vote:
>> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
>> [ ] -1 No because...
>>
>>
>> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
>> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>>
>>
Tommaso
Re: [VOTE] Apache Commons to sponsor agimatec-validation incunbation
Posted by Oliver Heger <ol...@oliver-heger.de>.
Niall Pemberton schrieb:
>
> [X] +1 Yes lets sponsor it
> [ ] -1 No because...
>
>
> [X] +1 Use the Commons mailing lists
> [ ] -1 Bad idea because...
>
Oliver
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