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[users@httpd] TIF image files

Hello all,

 

I really need a nudge in the right direction.

 

I have some TIF files that I transferred from a windows box to a linux
box over a Samba connection.   I cannot get Apache to display the
file.TIF  with this simple .htm :

<html>

<body>

<img src="file.TIF">

</body>

</html>

 

When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then copy over, I can get
Apache to show it.  

This works:

<html>

<body>

<img src="file.PNG">

</body>

</html>

 

Does anyone know why I can't get TIF files to display on Linux / Apache?
Am I missing a conversion?  a config in .conf?  Any help is appreciated.
Thankyou.

 

My env is:  Linux AS3/ Apache2

 

Terry

 


Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by "Mark A. Craig" <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ummm, is there a browser out there that knows how to render a TIFF file? 
I don't think there is, in which case your problem isn't with Apache....

Mark

Vaughn, Terry wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I really need a nudge in the right direction.
>
> I have some TIF files that I transferred from a windows box to a linux 
> box over a Samba connection. I cannot get Apache to display the 
> file.TIF with this simple .htm :
>
> <html>
>
> <body>
>
> <img src=”file.TIF”>
>
> </body>
>
> </html>
>
> When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then copy over, I can 
> get Apache to show it.
>
> This works:
>
> <html>
>
> <body>
>
> <img src=”file.PNG”>
>
> </body>
>
> </html>
>
> Does anyone know why I can’t get TIF files to display on Linux / 
> Apache? Am I missing a conversion? a config in .conf? Any help is 
> appreciated. Thankyou.
>
> My env is: Linux AS3/ Apache2
>
> Terry
>

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Re: [users@httpd] Only getting part of pages

Posted by Chris Tankersley <ch...@heartland-ins.com>.
Chris Tankersley wrote:
> Evan Platt wrote:
>> At 11:54 AM 5/8/2007, Chris Tankersley wrote:
>>> I just set up a new server running OpenBSD 4.1-stable with Apache 
>>> 1.3.29 installed. Got PHP, MySQL, all that set up, but now when I 
>>> try to view any pages I only get part of it. For example, very small 
>>> pages come up just fine, but anything with pictures (even as small 
>>> as 15k) cause parts of the page to disappear and the browser to sit 
>>> waiting for a response. I can do the same with straight pictures; I 
>>> have a jpeg that is 250k and have to constantly refresh the browser 
>>> to display all of it.
>>>
>>> The site worked fine on an Ubuntu box running Apache 2.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what would cause this or what to check?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Does this happen locally too?
>>
>> If you do a wget http://localhost (or http://whatever.com) does it 
>> time out at certain byte count each time?
> Works fine on both the .php page and the .jpg image. Both the Ubuntu 
> server and the OpenBSD server are on the same physical VMWare server 
> and on the same LAN I am, so I'm not sure that network congestion is 
> the problem.

Did some more digging. From any of the machines on the network, and even 
the same VMWare server, it downloads in 15kb chunks. I left wget running 
and it would time out, wget would auto resume, get another 15kb, time 
out, over and over until it finally had the file.

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Re: [users@httpd] Only getting part of pages

Posted by Chris Tankersley <ch...@heartland-ins.com>.
Evan Platt wrote:
> At 11:54 AM 5/8/2007, Chris Tankersley wrote:
>> I just set up a new server running OpenBSD 4.1-stable with Apache 
>> 1.3.29 installed. Got PHP, MySQL, all that set up, but now when I try 
>> to view any pages I only get part of it. For example, very small 
>> pages come up just fine, but anything with pictures (even as small as 
>> 15k) cause parts of the page to disappear and the browser to sit 
>> waiting for a response. I can do the same with straight pictures; I 
>> have a jpeg that is 250k and have to constantly refresh the browser 
>> to display all of it.
>>
>> The site worked fine on an Ubuntu box running Apache 2.
>>
>> Any ideas on what would cause this or what to check?
>>
>> Chris
>
> Does this happen locally too?
>
> If you do a wget http://localhost (or http://whatever.com) does it 
> time out at certain byte count each time?
Works fine on both the .php page and the .jpg image. Both the Ubuntu 
server and the OpenBSD server are on the same physical VMWare server and 
on the same LAN I am, so I'm not sure that network congestion is the 
problem.
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Re: [users@httpd] Only getting part of pages

Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
At 11:54 AM 5/8/2007, Chris Tankersley wrote:
>I just set up a new server running OpenBSD 4.1-stable with Apache 
>1.3.29 installed. Got PHP, MySQL, all that set up, but now when I 
>try to view any pages I only get part of it. For example, very small 
>pages come up just fine, but anything with pictures (even as small 
>as 15k) cause parts of the page to disappear and the browser to sit 
>waiting for a response. I can do the same with straight pictures; I 
>have a jpeg that is 250k and have to constantly refresh the browser 
>to display all of it.
>
>The site worked fine on an Ubuntu box running Apache 2.
>
>Any ideas on what would cause this or what to check?
>
>Chris

Does this happen locally too?

If you do a wget http://localhost (or http://whatever.com) does it 
time out at certain byte count each time? 


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[users@httpd] Only getting part of pages

Posted by Chris Tankersley <ch...@heartland-ins.com>.
I just set up a new server running OpenBSD 4.1-stable with Apache 1.3.29 
installed. Got PHP, MySQL, all that set up, but now when I try to view 
any pages I only get part of it. For example, very small pages come up 
just fine, but anything with pictures (even as small as 15k) cause parts 
of the page to disappear and the browser to sit waiting for a response. 
I can do the same with straight pictures; I have a jpeg that is 250k and 
have to constantly refresh the browser to display all of it.

The site worked fine on an Ubuntu box running Apache 2.

Any ideas on what would cause this or what to check?

Chris


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Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by Pid <p...@pidster.com>.
What kind of application/browser are you using to display it?

I suspect that your browser doesn't know how to display a TIFF rather 
than Apache not being able to send it.


p




Vaughn, Terry wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
>  
> 
> I really need a nudge in the right direction.
> 
>  
> 
> I have some TIF files that I transferred from a windows box to a linux 
> box over a Samba connection.   I cannot get Apache to display the 
> file.TIF  with this simple .htm :
> 
> <html>
> 
> <body>
> 
> <img src=”file.TIF”>
> 
> </body>
> 
> </html>
> 
>  
> 
> When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then copy over, I can get 
> Apache to show it. 
> 
> This works:
> 
> <html>
> 
> <body>
> 
> <img src=”file.PNG”>
> 
> </body>
> 
> </html>
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know why I can’t get TIF files to display on Linux / 
> Apache?  Am I missing a conversion?  a config in .conf?  Any help is 
> appreciated.  Thankyou.
> 
>  
> 
> My env is:  Linux AS3/ Apache2
> 
>  
> 
> Terry
> 
>  
> 



Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by Can Le <le...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,

Try this:

<img src=”http://localhost/file.TIF”> 
Did you put image file in htdocs ?


  lecan.net

"Vaughn, Terry" <te...@avmind.com> wrote:                         I cannot get Apache to  display the file.TIF  with this simple .htm :
    <html>
    <body>
    <img src=”file.TIF”>
    </body>
    </html>
     

  
     
    Terry
     
    
    

 	      
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Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by Morgan Gangwere <0....@gmail.com>.
On 5/8/07, Mark A. Craig <mark.a.craig(Muhnumahnah)gmail.com> wrote:
> The Apple Quicktime plug-in will display TIFF files, but it's no
> guarantee that every visitor will have even that (some of us despise
> Quicktime and Apple's Jewish-mother nagging about it ;-).  GIF, JPEG,
> and PNG are your viable choices.  If you need a decent image manager and
> converter, I might suggest Cerious Software's ThumbsPlus.
>
> Mark
>
> Jaqui Greenlees wrote:
> > Mark and Pid are right, Targa's Tagged Image Format
> > File [ .tif is aka .tiff ] is not supported in
> > browsers. It is the second most densly packed with
> > information image format. [ RAW being the highest data
> > in the file ] You are far better off to use png, jpg
> > or even gif instead, far smaller file sizes and every
> > browser can display them.
> >
> > to use tif on a website, you would need to use a
> > graphics app embedded into the page to display them,
> > if that particuar app is on the client system. [ good
> > luck there, I do not know of a single graphics app
> > that you can find on every system guaranteed ]
> >
> > Jaqui
> >
> > --- "Vaughn, Terry" <te...@avmind.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I really need a nudge in the right direction.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have some TIF files that I transferred from a
> >> windows box to a linux
> >> box over a Samba connection.   I cannot get Apache
> >> to display the
> >> file.TIF  with this simple .htm :
> >>
> >> <html>
> >>
> >> <body>
> >>
> >> <img src="file.TIF">
> >>
> >> </body>
> >>
> >> </html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then
> >> copy over, I can get
> >> Apache to show it.
> >>
> >> This works:
> >>
> >> <html>
> >>
> >> <body>
> >>
> >> <img src="file.PNG">
> >>
> >> </body>
> >>
> >> </html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know why I can't get TIF files to
> >> display on Linux / Apache?
> >> Am I missing a conversion?  a config in .conf?  Any
> >> help is appreciated.
> >> Thankyou.
> >
>
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there are at this time only 2 (two) browsers that can handle TIFF images:
Internet Exploder 7
internet Exploder 6.1 with a patch and Windows Imaging and Fax Viewer
(office 2003)
the QuickTime plug ins can read TIFF files, but they are slow and
drastically inefficient. there IS however some stuff you can do with
ImageMagik to make them into a readable image in any browser. thats
php though.

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the Information Age, in The Cybercities Reader, S. Graham, Editor.
2004, Routledge: London. p. 82-93.

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Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by "Mark A. Craig" <ma...@gmail.com>.
The Apple Quicktime plug-in will display TIFF files, but it's no 
guarantee that every visitor will have even that (some of us despise 
Quicktime and Apple's Jewish-mother nagging about it ;-).  GIF, JPEG, 
and PNG are your viable choices.  If you need a decent image manager and 
converter, I might suggest Cerious Software's ThumbsPlus.

Mark

Jaqui Greenlees wrote:
> Mark and Pid are right, Targa's Tagged Image Format
> File [ .tif is aka .tiff ] is not supported in
> browsers. It is the second most densly packed with
> information image format. [ RAW being the highest data
> in the file ] You are far better off to use png, jpg
> or even gif instead, far smaller file sizes and every
> browser can display them.
>
> to use tif on a website, you would need to use a
> graphics app embedded into the page to display them,
> if that particuar app is on the client system. [ good
> luck there, I do not know of a single graphics app
> that you can find on every system guaranteed ]
>
> Jaqui
>
> --- "Vaughn, Terry" <te...@avmind.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I really need a nudge in the right direction.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have some TIF files that I transferred from a
>> windows box to a linux
>> box over a Samba connection.   I cannot get Apache
>> to display the
>> file.TIF  with this simple .htm :
>>
>> <html>
>>
>> <body>
>>
>> <img src="file.TIF">
>>
>> </body>
>>
>> </html>
>>
>>  
>>
>> When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then
>> copy over, I can get
>> Apache to show it.  
>>
>> This works:
>>
>> <html>
>>
>> <body>
>>
>> <img src="file.PNG">
>>
>> </body>
>>
>> </html>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Does anyone know why I can't get TIF files to
>> display on Linux / Apache?
>> Am I missing a conversion?  a config in .conf?  Any
>> help is appreciated.
>> Thankyou.
>

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Re: [users@httpd] TIF image files

Posted by Jaqui Greenlees <ja...@yahoo.ca>.
Mark and Pid are right, Targa's Tagged Image Format
File [ .tif is aka .tiff ] is not supported in
browsers. It is the second most densly packed with
information image format. [ RAW being the highest data
in the file ] You are far better off to use png, jpg
or even gif instead, far smaller file sizes and every
browser can display them.

to use tif on a website, you would need to use a
graphics app embedded into the page to display them,
if that particuar app is on the client system. [ good
luck there, I do not know of a single graphics app
that you can find on every system guaranteed ]

Jaqui

--- "Vaughn, Terry" <te...@avmind.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
>  
> 
> I really need a nudge in the right direction.
> 
>  
> 
> I have some TIF files that I transferred from a
> windows box to a linux
> box over a Samba connection.   I cannot get Apache
> to display the
> file.TIF  with this simple .htm :
> 
> <html>
> 
> <body>
> 
> <img src="file.TIF">
> 
> </body>
> 
> </html>
> 
>  
> 
> When I convert it to a PNG with Win Paint, and then
> copy over, I can get
> Apache to show it.  
> 
> This works:
> 
> <html>
> 
> <body>
> 
> <img src="file.PNG">
> 
> </body>
> 
> </html>
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know why I can't get TIF files to
> display on Linux / Apache?
> Am I missing a conversion?  a config in .conf?  Any
> help is appreciated.
> Thankyou.
> 
>  
> 
> My env is:  Linux AS3/ Apache2
> 
>  
> 
> Terry
> 
>  
> 
> 



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