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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by kranga <kr...@k2d2.org> on 2005/02/01 00:39:16 UTC
Re: CSS layouts
I don't think this discussion is going in the correct direction.
1) A need has been identified - the ability for Tapestry to support css
skins and extra support for cross-browser concerns
2) Either build a component to address it or don't. There is no point
discussing the merits of these. I'd rather discuss how to build a component
and what it will take to address css layout in Tapestry. If css layouts are
very difficult to do and tapestry and make it happen, the Tapestry scores a
point.
A previous email from someone titled "My personal Tapestry wish-list" met
with the same fate. People started arguing about whether or not the
requester's wish-list was legitimate or not. Why do we treat users this way?
Add it to the wiki page and if someone comes up with a component, a need is
satisfied (and surely people will benefit from it).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Peerdeman" <lj...@xs4all.nl>
To: <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSS layouts
> Konstantin Iignatyev wrote:
>
> > Because I want my web-application working consistently in IE, Mozilla
> > and Opera I stick with Tables based layout and basic CSS.
> >
> > Do you have any links to sites, which are built with CSS and do provide
> > liquid and scalable layout that works consistently in IE, Mozilla and
> > Opera?
> >
> > If I could at least see that it is possible I would consider CSS for
> > doing layouts…
>
> Here is a list of sites did not use tables but strictly CSS for styling:
>
> http://meryl.net/css/index.php
>
> This might be a source to find the kind of sites you are looking for.
>
> In general I think CSS is well suited to make 'liquid and scalable'
> layouts, of course to make them behave consistently between browsers you
> will have to understand the details of the box model and how to use the
> 'box model hack' to solve the problem of IE doing things differently here.
>
> http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html
>
> Cheers, Luc.
>
>
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Re: CSS layouts
Posted by Konstantin Iignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com>.
>A previous email from someone titled "My personal Tapestry wish-list" met
>with the same fate. People started arguing about whether or not the
>requester's wish-list was legitimate or not. Why do we treat users this way?
>
>
>
Because verification of wish legitimacy never harms. What if user will
want to kill elderly ladies with using Tapestry?
On the serious note: user(my) wish might be unreasonable or caused by
problem/framework misunderstanding etc. It is important to verify if a
request is reasonable.
On the layout topic: it looks like wiki has tracks of attacking this
problem and it probably will be addressed in 3.1
--
Thanks,
Konstantin Ignatyev
http://www.kgionline.com
PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2.700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263.000
Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial:
Why the Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools.
New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
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RE: CSS layouts
Posted by Lindsay Steele <ls...@iinet.net.au>.
Actually the first thing that was said before anything else, was to add
the requests to the Wiki page.
The rest was legitimate discussion about features that might currently
furfill the need of the person at this current time and whether some of
those features put forward are really needed in the future.
I learned a lot out of this discussion .. Thanks for all the comments
and links.
-----Original Message-----
From: kranga [mailto:kranga@k2d2.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 10:39 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: CSS layouts
I don't think this discussion is going in the correct direction.
1) A need has been identified - the ability for Tapestry to support css
skins and extra support for cross-browser concerns
2) Either build a component to address it or don't. There is no point
discussing the merits of these. I'd rather discuss how to build a
component and what it will take to address css layout in Tapestry. If
css layouts are very difficult to do and tapestry and make it happen,
the Tapestry scores a point.
A previous email from someone titled "My personal Tapestry wish-list"
met with the same fate. People started arguing about whether or not the
requester's wish-list was legitimate or not. Why do we treat users this
way? Add it to the wiki page and if someone comes up with a component, a
need is satisfied (and surely people will benefit from it).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Peerdeman" <lj...@xs4all.nl>
To: <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSS layouts
> Konstantin Iignatyev wrote:
>
> > Because I want my web-application working consistently in IE,
> > Mozilla and Opera I stick with Tables based layout and basic CSS.
> >
> > Do you have any links to sites, which are built with CSS and do
> > provide liquid and scalable layout that works consistently in IE,
> > Mozilla and Opera?
> >
> > If I could at least see that it is possible I would consider CSS for
> > doing layouts.
>
> Here is a list of sites did not use tables but strictly CSS for
> styling:
>
> http://meryl.net/css/index.php
>
> This might be a source to find the kind of sites you are looking for.
>
> In general I think CSS is well suited to make 'liquid and scalable'
> layouts, of course to make them behave consistently between browsers
> you will have to understand the details of the box model and how to
> use the 'box model hack' to solve the problem of IE doing things
> differently here.
>
> http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html
>
> Cheers, Luc.
>
>
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