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   We have `spark.shuffle.io.connectionTimeout` for timeout checking when shuffle clients establish connections with shuffle servers. We also use it to check the established connection is idled or dead too. If we want a connection that can keep alive for a long time, we may increase the blocking time to create a shuffle client if the server is busy at that time.
   
   In practice, we always use connection timeout and session timeout to control these two different phases.
   This PR adds `spark.shuffle.io.sessionTimeout `to check an established connection for being idled or dead
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   yes, w/ new conf spark.shuffle.io.sessionTimeout ` to check an established connection for being idled or dead
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   @yaooqinn
   In https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/30312, we have introduced a `connectionCreationTimeout` and I think the motivation for that change and this one is the same. So, we should decide which implementation, related with this config,  we would want go ahead with.
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   > IMHO, `connectionCreationTimeout` seems to be not a common usage. But `sessionTimeout` and `connectionTimeout` are always used as a pair in RPC environments.
   
   Just stating the reason for why we went with creating `connectionCreationTimeout` instead of `idle/sessionTimeout`.
   We wanted to reduce the timeout for creating connections. Ideally this should be much lower and for our clusters we have set this to 30s. However, the default value for `connectionTimeout` is high which makes sense because it is also used as idleTimeout and since shuffle services can be overloaded, they may take longer to respond. The problem with creating a separate config for `idle/sessionTimeout` and **not** for `connectionCreation` is that some users (frameworks) may have also over-written the value of `connectionTimeout` to a much higher value. So, even if want to enforce all these jobs to use smaller timeouts for creating connections, they will still be using a larger timeouts for that.


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[GitHub] [spark] yaooqinn closed pull request #30844: [SPARK-33842][Core][Shuffle] Add spark.shuffle.io.sessionTimeout to check an established connection for being idled or dead

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yaooqinn closed pull request #30844:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/30844


   


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[GitHub] [spark] yaooqinn commented on pull request #30844: [SPARK-33842][Core][Shuffle] Add spark.shuffle.io.sessionTimeout to check an established connection for being idled or dead

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yaooqinn commented on pull request #30844:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/30844#issuecomment-748728489


   Oh, sorry @otterc, I didn't notice #30312.
   IMHO, `connectionCreationTimeout` seems to be not a common usage. But `sessionTimeout` and `connectionTimeout` are always used as a pair in RPC environments. 
   #30312 seems will get merged soon. I am fine w/ that too.
   


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