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Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Hello forum,

Recently i have upgraded SA from 2.64 to 3.1.1 and everything was working
great except to the following:

1. I am getting from time to time errors in the maillog via MailScanner
"spamassassin time out". I once had that problem with the previous version
of SA and resolve that by adding memory to the PC (upgraded to 256 MB). Can
you advise how can i resolve the issue? since i cant add more memory to the
PC.

2. I run sa-update on my linux machine to update the rules and afterward run
spamassassin --lint. The output was a warning as follows "warn: config:
warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE". I once added
HTML_MESSAGE to local.cf in order to set a higher score for that kind of
test and there was no problem. Is the specifc rule was removed due to the
update? How can i fix that?

Kindly regards,

Yossi
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Re: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by yossim <mo...@gmail.com>.
Hello Ken,

Thanks for your quick response.

OK here are the details.

vmstat shows as follows:

procs                      memory      swap          io     system      cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy
id
 0  0  0 146252  55264  15596  39084    2    1     4     0    1     4  2  2 
2


free shows:

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        255772     201340      54432          0      15680      39084
-/+ buffers/cache:     146576     109196
Swap:       326584     146252     180332


Both MailScanner and SA( i am not sure for SA) perform RBL check.

1. What are your recommendations?
2. How can i verify that SA perform RBL test?

I am not running a caching nameserver the resolv.conf point to ISP dns
server.
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Re: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by Ken A <ka...@pacific.net>.
"spamassassin time out" can be caused by slow dns lookups. I assume you 
are using the rbls in S.A., and not MailScanner? Are you running a local 
caching nameserver?

What do `vmstat` and `free` say? Any swap in use? If yes, get more ram. 
1gb ram would be a good place to start for a MailScanner/SA with caching 
nameserver.

Ken


yossim wrote:
> Hello forum,
> 
> Recently i have upgraded SA from 2.64 to 3.1.1 and everything was working
> great except to the following:
> 
> 1. I am getting from time to time errors in the maillog via MailScanner
> "spamassassin time out". I once had that problem with the previous version
> of SA and resolve that by adding memory to the PC (upgraded to 256 MB). Can
> you advise how can i resolve the issue? since i cant add more memory to the
> PC.
> 
> 2. I run sa-update on my linux machine to update the rules and afterward run
> spamassassin --lint. The output was a warning as follows "warn: config:
> warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE". I once added
> HTML_MESSAGE to local.cf in order to set a higher score for that kind of
> test and there was no problem. Is the specifc rule was removed due to the
> update? How can i fix that?
> 
> Kindly regards,
> 
> Yossi
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Re: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
Yossim wrote on Mon, 5 Jun 2006 03:12:33 -0700 (PDT):

> Where i disable the dns testing? i did not find any setting in the local.cf

Only disable it after you verified that your first ns is working! If it is not,
then remove it from your resolv.conf - maybe it's just plain wrong!
For SA you use skip_rbl_checks yes, compare
http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html

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Re: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by yossim <mo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Kai,

Thank very much for your assitence. I will take a close look on SA issues in
the coming days.

Where i disable the dns testing? i did not find any setting in the local.cf

Regards,

Yossi
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Re: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
Yossim wrote on Sun, 4 Jun 2006 02:40:59 -0700 (PDT):

> [5830] warn: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE - 
> i add that in local.cf

remove it
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookups failed, removing nameserver 212.150.48.169 from 
list 

that's the cause for your timeouts.
fix the dns or remove it from your resolv.conf.

and once dns works stop the dns testing it just takes time.


Kai

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RE: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by yossim <mo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your quick response.

I run --lint in debug mode. what should i look for? I am not sp experince in
SA.

few cut and paste:

dbg: diag: module not installed: Mail::SPF::Query ('require' failed)
[5830] dbg: diag: module installed: IP::Country::Fast, version 604.001
[5830] dbg: diag: module not installed: Razor2::Client::Agent ('require'
failed)
[5830] dbg: diag: module not installed: Net::Ident ('require' failed)
[5830] dbg: diag: module not installed: IO::Socket::INET6 ('require' failed)
[5830] dbg: diag: module not installed: IO::Socket::SSL ('require' failed)


[5830] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path:
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001001/updates_spamassassin_org/10_misc.cf
[5830] dbg: config: using
"/var/lib/spamassassin/3.001001/updates_spamassassin_org/10_misc.cf" for
included file

[5830] warn: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE -
i add that in local.cf

[5830] dbg: dns: name server: 212.150.48.169, family: 2, ipv6: 0
[5830] dbg: dns: testing resolver nameservers: 212.150.48.169,
192.115.106.10
[5830] dbg: dns: trying (3) mit.edu...
[5830] dbg: dns: looking up NS for 'mit.edu'
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookup of mit.edu using 212.150.48.169 failed, no
results found
[5830] dbg: dns: trying (2) colorado.edu...
[5830] dbg: dns: looking up NS for 'colorado.edu'
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookup of colorado.edu using 212.150.48.169 failed, no
results found
[5rn: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE
830] dbg: dns: trying (1) linux.org...
[5830] dbg: dns: looking up NS for 'linux.org'
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookup of linux.org using 212.150.48.169 failed, no
results found
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookups failed, removing nameserver 212.150.48.169 from
list
[5830] dbg: dns: name server: 192.115.106.10, family: 2, ipv6: 0
[5830] dbg: dns: trying (3) sourceforge.net...
[5830] dbg: dns: looking up NS for 'sourceforge.net'
[5830] dbg: dns: NS lookup of sourceforge.net using 192.115.106.10 succeeded
=> DNS available (set dns_available to override)
[5830] dbg: dns: is DNS available? 1
[5830] dbg: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Trusted:
[5830] dbg: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted:
[5830] dbg: message: no encoding detected
[5830] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8f29d78)
implements 'parsed_metadata'
[5830] dbg: uridnsbl: domains to query:
[5830] dbg: check: running tests for priority: 0
[5830] dbg: rules: running header regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: uri: running uri tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so
far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8f29d78)
implements 'check_tick'
[5830] dbg: check: running tests for priority: 500
[5830] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8f29d78)
implements 'check_post_dnsbl'
[5830] dbg: rules: running meta tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running header regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: uri: running uri tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so
far=0
[5830] dbg: rules: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=0
[5830] dbg: check: is spam? score=0 required=5
[5830] dbg: check: tests=
[5830] dbg: check: subtests=
[5830] warn: lint: 1 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled for
more information

Top shows 255 mb and swap of 327 mb.

Kindly regards,

Yoaai

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RE: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA

Posted by Sietse van Zanen <si...@wizdom.nu>.
1. SA3.x seems to need a little more memory + cpu than 2.x. If you can't add memory just up the time-out value for your milter or other piping mechanism you're using.
 
2. Lots and lots and then lots more has changed in the configuration between 2.64 and 3.1.1. Read the documentation on configuring 3.x. When I upgraded from 2.64 to 3.x and then to 3.1.1 I needed to almost completely rewrite my configuration.
 
-Sietse

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From: yossim [mailto:moryossi@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 02-Jun-06 7:22
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Isssues after upgrading / updating SA


Hello forum, Recently i have upgraded SA from 2.64 to 3.1.1 and everything was working great except to the following: 1. I am getting from time to time errors in the maillog via MailScanner "spamassassin time out". I once had that problem with the previous version of SA and resolve that by adding memory to the PC (upgraded to 256 MB). Can you advise how can i resolve the issue? since i cant add more memory to the PC. 2. I run sa-update on my linux machine to update the rules and afterward run spamassassin --lint. The output was a warning as follows "warn: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule HTML_MESSAGE". I once added HTML_MESSAGE to local.cf in order to set a higher score for that kind of test and there was no problem. Is the specifc rule was removed due to the update? How can i fix that? Kindly regards, Yossi 

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