WIKI, down for change

[janI <ja...@apache.org>]

Hi.

MWIKI is down at the moment, I try to get it up again...but I will take it
down tonight (GMT:1900-2400) for upgrading to a new VM.

Sorry for the inconvience, but there are 3 persons who have root access, so
I allowed myself a day off in real life !!!!

rgds
Jan I.

Re: WIKI, down for change

[janI <ja...@apache.org>]

Thanks Juergen for the kind words.

We might need more sysop people maintaining the wiki itself, that is really
needed. There are soo much to do in the wiki, to get it cleaned, mark pages
as outdated, concenctrate information (like build instructions) all in
order to ensure it is easier to find the information you need.

But I think it is a bad idea to have too many people with sudo access, that
makes it very hard to keep a stable and documented configuration. We are at
the moment 2 (+infra) with sudo access, and that should be enough for that
kind of work. Be aware that many of things I do with the new vm (wiki2)
requires a tight cooperation with infra-root, because it get deeply
integrated into the structure (current wiki, is nearly not integrated at
all) and if several persons from our project were to coordinate that it
would be difficult.

Also remember we have the WIKI servers. AOO, translate and cwiki are
crossproject and as such maintained by infra (I know I do it as a person,
but in this case with INFRA views).

Rgds
Jan I.

On 14 January 2013 11:21, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/11/13 7:23 PM, janI wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > MWIKI is down at the moment, I try to get it up again...but I will take
> it
> > down tonight (GMT:1900-2400) for upgrading to a new VM.
> >
> > Sorry for the inconvience, but there are 3 persons who have root access,
> so
> > I allowed myself a day off in real life !!!!
>
> hey Jan no problem, well it is a problem of our project but not yours
> alone, you deserve a big thank you of all of us and our users/consumers
> of the information in the wiki.
>
> But it shows me that our project has to grow in the infra structure area
> as well. We need more volunteers who are able to help in emergency cases
> when a server is down, gets attacked or whatever ...
>
> The Apache infra structure team will help us but we should if possible
> support the overall infra structure team with volunteers from our
> project who are able to step in and can help to fix/solve problems. We
> are a huge project and have some special requirements that we brought
> over to Apache from our long history before. Keeping everything running
> is a very important thing and a further good field for volunteers to
> step in and help the project.
>
> We should try to find some further volunteers who are interested to give
> our admins a helping hand or to take over some work over time.
>
> Juergen
>
>

Re: WIKI, down for change

[Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>]

On 1/11/13 7:23 PM, janI wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> MWIKI is down at the moment, I try to get it up again...but I will take it
> down tonight (GMT:1900-2400) for upgrading to a new VM.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvience, but there are 3 persons who have root access, so
> I allowed myself a day off in real life !!!!

hey Jan no problem, well it is a problem of our project but not yours
alone, you deserve a big thank you of all of us and our users/consumers
of the information in the wiki.

But it shows me that our project has to grow in the infra structure area
as well. We need more volunteers who are able to help in emergency cases
when a server is down, gets attacked or whatever ...

The Apache infra structure team will help us but we should if possible
support the overall infra structure team with volunteers from our
project who are able to step in and can help to fix/solve problems. We
are a huge project and have some special requirements that we brought
over to Apache from our long history before. Keeping everything running
is a very important thing and a further good field for volunteers to
step in and help the project.

We should try to find some further volunteers who are interested to give
our admins a helping hand or to take over some work over time.

Juergen