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[ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.

No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of 
Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a 
"test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all 
feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.

Release notes:

* 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html

Distribution:

  * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/

Maven 2 staging repository:

  * 
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/

Documentation:

* https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/

Sources:

  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/

Release Candidates History:

  * RC1 Initial RC

  * RC2
  - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
  - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
  - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the 
velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
  - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the 
parser customization feature in the *building* section
  - nicified README links
  - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
  - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
  - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
  - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
  - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
  - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
  - added a new templatized static class 
org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
  - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream 
for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
  - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made 
them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies 
and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a 
jar without explanations...)

* RC3
  - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the 
velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
  - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30

* RC4
  - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Claude Brisson <cl...@renegat.net.INVALID>.
>> Let us summarize the behavior in question.
>>
>> You have a template A which calls a macro M which in turn calls a
>> template B.
>>
>> A defines $foo, B changes its value, and you want the new value to be
>> visible in A but not in M. Is that right?
> Not quite. In Velocity 1.7 unless M also sets this value too before
> calling B there is no reason it does not end up with what B have set.

Right. And that's even worse. We can't and don't want to reproduce that, 
even with compatibility flags. Seriously, it can only break ill-formed 
code. But ok, I'll include something in the upgrade page about that.



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:41 PM Claude Brisson
<cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> Let us summarize the behavior in question.
>
> You have a template A which calls a macro M which in turn calls a
> template B.
>
> A defines $foo, B changes its value, and you want the new value to be
> visible in A but not in M. Is that right?

Not quite. In Velocity 1.7 unless M also sets this value too before
calling B there is no reason it does not end up with what B have set.

This whole behavior change root cause is that in 1.7 Velocity
variables are set in both the macro local context and the global
context (and retrieved from local context first and then fallback on
globack context if not set in the local one) while in 2.x the macro
local context disappeared.

> Even worse, if M changes the
> value, you want the new value to be visible in B. This looks rather
> ill-formed. We would typically expect a complete isolation or a complete
> transitivity of changes.

Again it's not about what is my favourite behavior (as I said I'm not
a big fan of Velocity 1.7 behavior either) but how many XWiki
extensions I have no control over are going to be broken when we
upgrade to Velocity 2.x. My only concern is trying to reduce that
number as much as I can.

I also insist on the fact that I'm talking about Velocity 1.7 DEFAULT
behavior (XWiki does not set "velocimacro.context.localscope"), and a
behavior that you can't disable so removing it in the following
version feels a bit harsh even if it's kind of documented in the
changelog of 1.7 (the documentation indicate that
"velocimacro.context.localscope" is deprecated without really
mentioning clearly the status of the default behavior).

If your answer is "no way we get back this 1.7 nonsense even with an
option" then OK now I know.

>
> I'd also like to know which parts of this chain of calls you do have
> some control over, and which parts are potentially unknown external
> plugins or user code, because there may be some workarounds on your side.

I'm not really concerned about what I can do to fix a specific use
case in XWiki Standard to workaround that behavior change, I have
already done that. My only concern here is retro compatibility.

>
> On 20-01-16 15 h 48, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > I definitely do understand Velocity side and I never been a big fan of
> > the previous magic behavior but I have to wear the retro compatibility
> > nazy hat right now :D
> >
> > I don't have much confidence in me proposing a patch that would not
> > break more than it fix but yes that's my next step. What I definitely
> > won't do is maintaining a custom Velocity version on XWiki side
> > especially for something that complex (I did wrote some retro
> > compatibility related hacks on our side for things like $velocitycount
> > but that's easy).
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:04 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Oh yeah, i understand that from your side totally! Paying of tech debt for
> >> big upgrades takes a long time, and i'm super grateful for your
> >> thoroughness this time around. I'm just saying from the Velocity dev side,
> >> it seems odd to re-add a large, complicated feature (the explicit macro
> >> scopes are much cleaner inside and out, IMO) after two versions without it,
> >> purely for a backward compatibility that was deprecated in a release 9+
> >> years ago and hasn't been in a "latest and greatest" release for 3 years
> >> now.  It's hard to justify the effort on our end. And a bit moot, since i
> >> haven't the time for it anyway. But again, if you or Claude or someone else
> >> wants to take it on yourselves, i won't veto at all. My favorite Apache Way
> >> maxim has always been that those who do the work should make the decisions!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
> >>>> much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in
> >>> the
> >>>> work, i won't protest.
> >>>> My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
> >>>> point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in
> >>> as
> >>>> a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)
> >>> I understand but I started working on Velocity 2.x upgrade in XWiki
> >>> quite a while ago and it took two versions because it was not very
> >>> straightforward with XWiki using quite a lot of the Velocity APIs and
> >>> many of those having changed a lot (some of which I'm very happy with
> >>> but was still some work) and then start testing actual use cases to
> >>> find out regressions or planned but not obvious breaking changes in
> >>> actual language from XWiki extensions point of view. My bad judgment
> >>> was to wait for 2.1 before testing more use cases because there was a
> >>> lot of retro compatible flags and bug fixes in it that I needed while
> >>> I should have tested right away with 2.1 SNAPSHOTS like I do now with
> >>> 2.2 but it was also not so easy to spot everything at once when those
> >>> were hidden by now fixed regressions or new retro compatibility flags.
> >>>
> >>>> I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
> >>>> deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
> >>>> part.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> >>> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
> >>>>> it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
> >>>>> default behavior not something you could disable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
> >>>>> default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
> >>>>> for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7
> >>> for
> >>>>>> removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> >>>>>>
> >>> https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> >>>>> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new
> >>> difference
> >>>>>>> in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> >>>>>>> variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a
> >>> local
> >>>>>>> one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> >>>>>>> value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> >>>>>>> global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following
> >>> macro
> >>>>>>> code because that change will be hidden by the local context.
> >>> While I
> >>>>>>> did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get
> >>> suggest
> >>>>>>> that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's
> >>> not
> >>>>>>> used the same way in this use case.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> >>>>>>> which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute
> >>> another
> >>>>>>> Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> >>>>>>> variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template
> >>> use a
> >>>>>>> variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> >>>>>>> now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> >>>>>>> wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> >>>>>>> "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a
> >>> jira
> >>>>>>> issue about this behavior change ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on
> >>> the
> >>>>> Jira
> >>>>>>> issue).
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> So that one was on me after all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case
> >>> but
> >>>>> let's
> >>>>>>>>>> say +1 for a RC.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> There is one more thing that I want to debug today
> >>> (hopefully
> >>>>>>> answer
> >>>>>>>>>>> before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this
> >>> bug,
> >>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>> regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot
> >>> of
> >>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>> changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight
> >>> difference
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
> >>>>> debug
> >>>>>>>>>>> between the result and the Velocity engine).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> >>>>>>>>>>> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki
> >>> bug
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> report
> >>>>>>>>>>>> before I push out the next RC?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi sorry me again,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just hit
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is
> >>> available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,'
> >>> or
> >>>>> 'GA')
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this
> >>> time
> >>>>> it is
> >>>>>>> simply a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have,
> >>> and
> >>>>> will
> >>>>>>> take all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for
> >>> this
> >>>>>>> build.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distribution:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven 2 staging repository:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sources:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release Candidates History:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     * RC1 Initial RC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     * RC2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit
> >>> conversions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for
> >>> `$foo||`
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> >>>>>>> compatibility flag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - fixed engine and dependency versions in README
> >>> and
> >>>>>>> mention the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - nicified README links
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to
> >>> 2.22.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to
> >>> 3.0.5
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified*
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> 3.0.0-M1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added a new templatized static class
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - use the File Separator control character to mark
> >>> the
> >>>>> end
> >>>>>>> of stream
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> >>>>>>> content, plus made
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell
> >>> scripts,
> >>>>>>> dependencies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and examples sources rather than a meaningless
> >>> standalone
> >>>>> pom
> >>>>>>> next to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jar without explanations...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * RC3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
> >>>>> for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> >>>>>>> compatibility flag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * RC4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in
> >>> RC3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Claude
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Claude Brisson <cl...@renegat.net.INVALID>.
Let us summarize the behavior in question.

You have a template A which calls a macro M which in turn calls a 
template B.

A defines $foo, B changes its value, and you want the new value to be 
visible in A but not in M. Is that right? Even worse, if M changes the 
value, you want the new value to be visible in B. This looks rather 
ill-formed. We would typically expect a complete isolation or a complete 
transitivity of changes.

I'd also like to know which parts of this chain of calls you do have 
some control over, and which parts are potentially unknown external 
plugins or user code, because there may be some workarounds on your side.

On 20-01-16 15 h 48, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> I definitely do understand Velocity side and I never been a big fan of
> the previous magic behavior but I have to wear the retro compatibility
> nazy hat right now :D
>
> I don't have much confidence in me proposing a patch that would not
> break more than it fix but yes that's my next step. What I definitely
> won't do is maintaining a custom Velocity version on XWiki side
> especially for something that complex (I did wrote some retro
> compatibility related hacks on our side for things like $velocitycount
> but that's easy).
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:04 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh yeah, i understand that from your side totally! Paying of tech debt for
>> big upgrades takes a long time, and i'm super grateful for your
>> thoroughness this time around. I'm just saying from the Velocity dev side,
>> it seems odd to re-add a large, complicated feature (the explicit macro
>> scopes are much cleaner inside and out, IMO) after two versions without it,
>> purely for a backward compatibility that was deprecated in a release 9+
>> years ago and hasn't been in a "latest and greatest" release for 3 years
>> now.  It's hard to justify the effort on our end. And a bit moot, since i
>> haven't the time for it anyway. But again, if you or Claude or someone else
>> wants to take it on yourselves, i won't veto at all. My favorite Apache Way
>> maxim has always been that those who do the work should make the decisions!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
>>>> much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in
>>> the
>>>> work, i won't protest.
>>>> My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
>>>> point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in
>>> as
>>>> a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)
>>> I understand but I started working on Velocity 2.x upgrade in XWiki
>>> quite a while ago and it took two versions because it was not very
>>> straightforward with XWiki using quite a lot of the Velocity APIs and
>>> many of those having changed a lot (some of which I'm very happy with
>>> but was still some work) and then start testing actual use cases to
>>> find out regressions or planned but not obvious breaking changes in
>>> actual language from XWiki extensions point of view. My bad judgment
>>> was to wait for 2.1 before testing more use cases because there was a
>>> lot of retro compatible flags and bug fixes in it that I needed while
>>> I should have tested right away with 2.1 SNAPSHOTS like I do now with
>>> 2.2 but it was also not so easy to spot everything at once when those
>>> were hidden by now fixed regressions or new retro compatibility flags.
>>>
>>>> I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
>>>> deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
>>>> part.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <
>>> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
>>>>> it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
>>>>> default behavior not something you could disable.
>>>>>
>>>>> So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
>>>>> default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
>>>>> for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7
>>> for
>>>>>> removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
>>>>>>
>>> https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
>>>>> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new
>>> difference
>>>>>>> in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
>>>>>>> variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a
>>> local
>>>>>>> one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
>>>>>>> value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
>>>>>>> global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following
>>> macro
>>>>>>> code because that change will be hidden by the local context.
>>> While I
>>>>>>> did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get
>>> suggest
>>>>>>> that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's
>>> not
>>>>>>> used the same way in this use case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
>>>>>>> which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute
>>> another
>>>>>>> Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use
>>> the
>>>>>>> previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
>>>>>>> variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template
>>> use a
>>>>>>> variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
>>>>>>> now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
>>>>>>> wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
>>>>>>> "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a
>>> jira
>>>>>>> issue about this behavior change ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on
>>> the
>>>>> Jira
>>>>>>> issue).
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So that one was on me after all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case
>>> but
>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>> say +1 for a RC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>>>> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> There is one more thing that I want to debug today
>>> (hopefully
>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>>> before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this
>>> bug,
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>> regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot
>>> of
>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>> changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight
>>> difference
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
>>>>> debug
>>>>>>>>>>> between the result and the Velocity engine).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
>>>>>>>>>>> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed. Thanks for the report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki
>>> bug
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>>>>> before I push out the next RC?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi sorry me again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just hit
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is
>>> available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,'
>>> or
>>>>> 'GA')
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this
>>> time
>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> simply a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have,
>>> and
>>>>> will
>>>>>>> take all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for
>>> this
>>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distribution:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven 2 staging repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sources:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release Candidates History:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     * RC1 Initial RC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     * RC2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit
>>> conversions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for
>>> `$foo||`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
>>>>>>> compatibility flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - fixed engine and dependency versions in README
>>> and
>>>>>>> mention the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parser customization feature in the *building* section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - nicified README links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to
>>> 2.22.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to
>>> 3.0.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified*
>>> to
>>>>>>> 3.0.0-M1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - added a new templatized static class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - use the File Separator control character to mark
>>> the
>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of stream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
>>>>>>> content, plus made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell
>>> scripts,
>>>>>>> dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and examples sources rather than a meaningless
>>> standalone
>>>>> pom
>>>>>>> next to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jar without explanations...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * RC3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
>>>>>>> compatibility flag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * RC4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in
>>> RC3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Claude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thomas Mortagne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
I definitely do understand Velocity side and I never been a big fan of
the previous magic behavior but I have to wear the retro compatibility
nazy hat right now :D

I don't have much confidence in me proposing a patch that would not
break more than it fix but yes that's my next step. What I definitely
won't do is maintaining a custom Velocity version on XWiki side
especially for something that complex (I did wrote some retro
compatibility related hacks on our side for things like $velocitycount
but that's easy).

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:04 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, i understand that from your side totally! Paying of tech debt for
> big upgrades takes a long time, and i'm super grateful for your
> thoroughness this time around. I'm just saying from the Velocity dev side,
> it seems odd to re-add a large, complicated feature (the explicit macro
> scopes are much cleaner inside and out, IMO) after two versions without it,
> purely for a backward compatibility that was deprecated in a release 9+
> years ago and hasn't been in a "latest and greatest" release for 3 years
> now.  It's hard to justify the effort on our end. And a bit moot, since i
> haven't the time for it anyway. But again, if you or Claude or someone else
> wants to take it on yourselves, i won't veto at all. My favorite Apache Way
> maxim has always been that those who do the work should make the decisions!
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
> > > much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in
> > the
> > > work, i won't protest.
> >
> > > My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
> > > point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in
> > as
> > > a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)
> >
> > I understand but I started working on Velocity 2.x upgrade in XWiki
> > quite a while ago and it took two versions because it was not very
> > straightforward with XWiki using quite a lot of the Velocity APIs and
> > many of those having changed a lot (some of which I'm very happy with
> > but was still some work) and then start testing actual use cases to
> > find out regressions or planned but not obvious breaking changes in
> > actual language from XWiki extensions point of view. My bad judgment
> > was to wait for 2.1 before testing more use cases because there was a
> > lot of retro compatible flags and bug fixes in it that I needed while
> > I should have tested right away with 2.1 SNAPSHOTS like I do now with
> > 2.2 but it was also not so easy to spot everything at once when those
> > were hidden by now fixed regressions or new retro compatibility flags.
> >
> > >
> > > I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
> > > deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
> > > part.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> > thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
> > > > it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
> > > > default behavior not something you could disable.
> > > >
> > > > So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
> > > > default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
> > > > for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7
> > for
> > > > > removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> > > > thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new
> > difference
> > > > > > in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> > > > > > variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a
> > local
> > > > > > one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> > > > > > value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> > > > > > global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following
> > macro
> > > > > > code because that change will be hidden by the local context.
> > While I
> > > > > > did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get
> > suggest
> > > > > > that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's
> > not
> > > > > > used the same way in this use case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> > > > > > which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute
> > another
> > > > > > Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use
> > the
> > > > > > previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> > > > > > variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template
> > use a
> > > > > > variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> > > > > > now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> > > > > > wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> > > > > > "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a
> > jira
> > > > > > issue about this behavior change ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on
> > the
> > > > Jira
> > > > > > issue).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case
> > but
> > > > let's
> > > > > > > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today
> > (hopefully
> > > > > > answer
> > > > > > > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this
> > bug,
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot
> > of
> > > > APIs
> > > > > > > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight
> > difference
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
> > > > debug
> > > > > > > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki
> > bug
> > > > to
> > > > > > report
> > > > > > > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I just hit
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is
> > available.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,'
> > or
> > > > 'GA')
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this
> > time
> > > > it is
> > > > > > simply a
> > > > > > > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have,
> > and
> > > > will
> > > > > > take all
> > > > > > > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for
> > this
> > > > > > build.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit
> > conversions
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for
> > `$foo||`
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README
> > and
> > > > > > mention the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to
> > 2.22.1
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to
> > 3.0.5
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified*
> > to
> > > > > > 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark
> > the
> > > > end
> > > > > > of stream
> > > > > > > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> > > > > > content, plus made
> > > > > > > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell
> > scripts,
> > > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless
> > standalone
> > > > pom
> > > > > > next to a
> > > > > > > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
> > > > for the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in
> > RC3
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>     --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>     Claude
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
Oh yeah, i understand that from your side totally! Paying of tech debt for
big upgrades takes a long time, and i'm super grateful for your
thoroughness this time around. I'm just saying from the Velocity dev side,
it seems odd to re-add a large, complicated feature (the explicit macro
scopes are much cleaner inside and out, IMO) after two versions without it,
purely for a backward compatibility that was deprecated in a release 9+
years ago and hasn't been in a "latest and greatest" release for 3 years
now.  It's hard to justify the effort on our end. And a bit moot, since i
haven't the time for it anyway. But again, if you or Claude or someone else
wants to take it on yourselves, i won't veto at all. My favorite Apache Way
maxim has always been that those who do the work should make the decisions!

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
> > much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in
> the
> > work, i won't protest.
>
> > My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
> > point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in
> as
> > a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)
>
> I understand but I started working on Velocity 2.x upgrade in XWiki
> quite a while ago and it took two versions because it was not very
> straightforward with XWiki using quite a lot of the Velocity APIs and
> many of those having changed a lot (some of which I'm very happy with
> but was still some work) and then start testing actual use cases to
> find out regressions or planned but not obvious breaking changes in
> actual language from XWiki extensions point of view. My bad judgment
> was to wait for 2.1 before testing more use cases because there was a
> lot of retro compatible flags and bug fixes in it that I needed while
> I should have tested right away with 2.1 SNAPSHOTS like I do now with
> 2.2 but it was also not so easy to spot everything at once when those
> were hidden by now fixed regressions or new retro compatibility flags.
>
> >
> > I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
> > deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
> > part.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
> > > it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
> > > default behavior not something you could disable.
> > >
> > > So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
> > > default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
> > > for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7
> for
> > > > removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> > > >
> > >
> https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> > > thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new
> difference
> > > > > in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> > > > >
> > > > > In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> > > > > variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a
> local
> > > > > one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> > > > > value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> > > > >
> > > > > This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> > > > > global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following
> macro
> > > > > code because that change will be hidden by the local context.
> While I
> > > > > did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get
> suggest
> > > > > that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's
> not
> > > > > used the same way in this use case.
> > > > >
> > > > > The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> > > > > which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute
> another
> > > > > Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use
> the
> > > > > previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> > > > > variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template
> use a
> > > > > variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> > > > >
> > > > > It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> > > > > now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> > > > > wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> > > > > "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a
> jira
> > > > > issue about this behavior change ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on
> the
> > > Jira
> > > > > issue).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case
> but
> > > let's
> > > > > > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today
> (hopefully
> > > > > answer
> > > > > > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this
> bug,
> > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot
> of
> > > APIs
> > > > > > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight
> difference
> > > in the
> > > > > > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
> > > debug
> > > > > > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki
> bug
> > > to
> > > > > report
> > > > > > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I just hit
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is
> available.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,'
> or
> > > 'GA')
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this
> time
> > > it is
> > > > > simply a
> > > > > > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have,
> and
> > > will
> > > > > take all
> > > > > > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for
> this
> > > > > build.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit
> conversions
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for
> `$foo||`
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README
> and
> > > > > mention the
> > > > > > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to
> 2.22.1
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to
> 3.0.5
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified*
> to
> > > > > 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark
> the
> > > end
> > > > > of stream
> > > > > > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> > > > > content, plus made
> > > > > > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell
> scripts,
> > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless
> standalone
> > > pom
> > > > > next to a
> > > > > > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
> > > for the
> > > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in
> RC3
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>     --
> > > > > > > > > > >>     Claude
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
> much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in the
> work, i won't protest.

> My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
> point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in as
> a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)

I understand but I started working on Velocity 2.x upgrade in XWiki
quite a while ago and it took two versions because it was not very
straightforward with XWiki using quite a lot of the Velocity APIs and
many of those having changed a lot (some of which I'm very happy with
but was still some work) and then start testing actual use cases to
find out regressions or planned but not obvious breaking changes in
actual language from XWiki extensions point of view. My bad judgment
was to wait for 2.1 before testing more use cases because there was a
lot of retro compatible flags and bug fixes in it that I needed while
I should have tested right away with 2.1 SNAPSHOTS like I do now with
2.2 but it was also not so easy to spot everything at once when those
were hidden by now fixed regressions or new retro compatibility flags.

>
> I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
> deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
> part.
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
> wrote:
>
> > OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
> > it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
> > default behavior not something you could disable.
> >
> > So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
> > default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
> > for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for
> > > removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> > >
> > https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> > thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new difference
> > > > in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> > > >
> > > > In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> > > > variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a local
> > > > one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> > > > value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> > > >
> > > > This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> > > > global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following macro
> > > > code because that change will be hidden by the local context. While I
> > > > did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get suggest
> > > > that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's not
> > > > used the same way in this use case.
> > > >
> > > > The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> > > > which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute another
> > > > Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use the
> > > > previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> > > > variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template use a
> > > > variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> > > >
> > > > It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> > > > now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> > > > wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> > > > "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> > > >
> > > > How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a jira
> > > > issue about this behavior change ?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the
> > Jira
> > > > issue).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but
> > let's
> > > > > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully
> > > > answer
> > > > > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug,
> > > > another
> > > > > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of
> > APIs
> > > > > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference
> > in the
> > > > > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
> > debug
> > > > > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug
> > to
> > > > report
> > > > > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just hit
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or
> > 'GA')
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time
> > it is
> > > > simply a
> > > > > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and
> > will
> > > > take all
> > > > > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this
> > > > build.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and
> > > > mention the
> > > > > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to
> > > > 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the
> > end
> > > > of stream
> > > > > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> > > > content, plus made
> > > > > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts,
> > > > dependencies
> > > > > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone
> > pom
> > > > next to a
> > > > > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
> > for the
> > > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't
much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in the
work, i won't protest. My inclination, ineffectual though it may be, is to
point out that it was removed 2 versions ago, in 2.0. Adding it back in as
a BC option in 2.2 seems more than a little belated... :)

I do agree, the 1.7-2.0 upgrade docs probably should have said that those
deprecated features were actually removed. That was an oversight on our
part.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:04 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
wrote:

> OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
> it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
> default behavior not something you could disable.
>
> So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
> default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
> for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for
> > removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> >
> https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <
> thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new difference
> > > in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> > >
> > > In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> > > variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a local
> > > one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> > > value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> > >
> > > This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> > > global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following macro
> > > code because that change will be hidden by the local context. While I
> > > did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get suggest
> > > that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's not
> > > used the same way in this use case.
> > >
> > > The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> > > which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute another
> > > Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use the
> > > previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> > > variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template use a
> > > variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> > >
> > > It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> > > now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> > > wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> > > "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> > >
> > > How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a jira
> > > issue about this behavior change ?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the
> Jira
> > > issue).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but
> let's
> > > > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully
> > > answer
> > > > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug,
> > > another
> > > > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of
> APIs
> > > > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference
> in the
> > > > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to
> debug
> > > > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug
> to
> > > report
> > > > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just hit
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or
> 'GA')
> > > of
> > > > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time
> it is
> > > simply a
> > > > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and
> will
> > > take all
> > > > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this
> > > build.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > > >>
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > > > >>
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>    *
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and
> > > mention the
> > > > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to
> > > 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the
> end
> > > of stream
> > > > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> > > content, plus made
> > > > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts,
> > > dependencies
> > > > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone
> pom
> > > next to a
> > > > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs
> for the
> > > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>     --
> > > > > > > > >>     Claude
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
OK should probably be documented in the 1.7->2.0 upgrade then because
it was not very obvious before that it was deprecated since it was the
default behavior not something you could disable.

So next question I guess is would you consider having it disabled by
default and be able to enable with a configuration like it was done
for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :)

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for
> removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
> https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new difference
> > in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
> >
> > In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> > variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a local
> > one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> > value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
> >
> > This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> > global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following macro
> > code because that change will be hidden by the local context. While I
> > did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get suggest
> > that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's not
> > used the same way in this use case.
> >
> > The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> > which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute another
> > Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use the
> > previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> > variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template use a
> > variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
> >
> > It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> > now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> > wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> > "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
> >
> > How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a jira
> > issue about this behavior change ?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the Jira
> > issue).
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > > >
> > > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
> > > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully
> > answer
> > > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug,
> > another
> > > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> > > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> > > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> > > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to
> > report
> > > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA')
> > of
> > > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is
> > simply a
> > > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will
> > take all
> > > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this
> > build.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > > >>
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    *
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > > >>
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    *
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and
> > mention the
> > > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to
> > 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end
> > of stream
> > > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> > content, plus made
> > > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts,
> > dependencies
> > > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom
> > next to a
> > > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> > compatibility flag
> > > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>     --
> > > > > > > >>     Claude
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for
removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects.
https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>
wrote:

> Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new difference
> in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.
>
> In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
> variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a local
> one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
> value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).
>
> This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
> global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following macro
> code because that change will be hidden by the local context. While I
> did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get suggest
> that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's not
> used the same way in this use case.
>
> The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
> which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute another
> Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use the
> previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
> variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template use a
> variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).
>
> It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
> now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
> wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
> "protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.
>
> How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a jira
> issue about this behavior change ?
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the Jira
> issue).
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So that one was on me after all.
> > > >
> > > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
> > > > say +1 for a RC.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully
> answer
> > > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug,
> another
> > > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> > > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> > > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> > > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to
> report
> > > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA')
> of
> > > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is
> simply a
> > > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will
> take all
> > > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this
> build.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> *
> > > > > > >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>    *
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>    *
> > > > > > >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>    *
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> compatibility flag
> > > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and
> mention the
> > > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to
> 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end
> of stream
> > > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed
> content, plus made
> > > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts,
> dependencies
> > > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom
> next to a
> > > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward
> compatibility flag
> > > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>     --
> > > > > > >>     Claude
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thomas Mortagne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thomas Mortagne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Mortagne
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
Took me a while to understand it but I actually found a new difference
in the way Velocity deal with variables set inside a macro.

In 1.7 by default (i.e. without "velocimacro.context.localscope")
variables set in a macro end up in both the global context and a local
one and when accessing this variable later in the macro the local
value is used retrieved (all this happen in ProxyVMContext).

This means that if the macro also calls some method that update the
global VelocityContext it won't have any effect on the following macro
code because that change will be hidden by the local context. While I
did not debugged on Velocity 2.2-SNAPSHOT , the result I get suggest
that there is no local context in macros anymore or at least it's not
used the same way in this use case.

The use case in which I noticed this behavior change it is a macro
which initialization some variable, calls an API which execute another
Velocity template (a kind of include in other words) and then use the
previously set variable. What happen after upgrade is that the
variable is "broken" by the other template (because the template use a
variable with the same name for totally unrelated reasons).

It does not affect XWiki Standard much (that's why I only found it
now) and I'm not sure if it used to work only by luck or if whoever
wrote that use case really was counting on macro variables to be
"protected" but it might have a huge effect on some extensions.

How do you feel about this change and do you want me to create a jira
issue about this behavior change ?

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Thomas Mortagne
<th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the Jira issue).
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So that one was on me after all.
> > >
> > > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
> > > say +1 for a RC.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully answer
> > > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug, another
> > > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> > > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> > > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> > > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report
> > > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> > > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> > > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> > > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *
> > > > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>    *
> > > > > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sources:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> > > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
> > > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> > > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> > > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> > > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> > > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> * RC3
> > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> * RC4
> > > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>     --
> > > > > >>     Claude
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > >>
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thomas Mortagne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Mortagne
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
>
>
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
False alarm actually I think, sorry for the noise.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:21 PM Thomas Mortagne
<th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the Jira issue).
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > So that one was on me after all.
> >
> > XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
> > say +1 for a RC.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> > <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully answer
> > > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug, another
> > > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> > > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> > > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> > > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report
> > > > before I push out the next RC?
> > > >
> > > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> > > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> > > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> > > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Release notes:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *
> > > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Distribution:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    *
> > > > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Documentation:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sources:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    * RC2
> > > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> > > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
> > > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> > > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> > > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> > > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> > > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> * RC3
> > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > > >>
> > > > >> * RC4
> > > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     --
> > > > >>     Claude
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
> > > > >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
Unfortunately it seems the fix is not complete (commented on the Jira issue).

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Thomas Mortagne
<th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> So that one was on me after all.
>
> XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
> say +1 for a RC.
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
> <th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully answer
> > before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug, another
> > regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> > changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> > result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> > between the result and the Velocity engine).
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> > >
> > > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report
> > > before I push out the next RC?
> > >
> > > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > > Hi sorry me again,
> > > >
> > > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > > >>
> > > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> > > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> > > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> > > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
> > > >>
> > > >> Release notes:
> > > >>
> > > >> *
> > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Distribution:
> > > >>
> > > >>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > > >>
> > > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > > >>
> > > >>    *
> > > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > > >>
> > > >> Documentation:
> > > >>
> > > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > > >>
> > > >> Sources:
> > > >>
> > > >>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > > >>
> > > >> Release Candidates History:
> > > >>
> > > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > > >>
> > > >>    * RC2
> > > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> > > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > > >>    - nicified README links
> > > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
> > > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> > > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> > > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> > > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> > > >> jar without explanations...)
> > > >>
> > > >> * RC3
> > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > > >>
> > > >> * RC4
> > > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>     --
> > > >>     Claude
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
So that one was on me after all.

XWiki is a big beast and I might have missed some edge case but let's
say +1 for a RC.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:23 AM Thomas Mortagne
<th...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully answer
> before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug, another
> regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
> changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
> result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
> between the result and the Velocity engine).
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Fixed. Thanks for the report.
> >
> > Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report
> > before I push out the next RC?
> >
> > On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > Hi sorry me again,
> > >
> > > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> > >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> > >>
> > >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> > >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> > >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> > >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
> > >>
> > >> Release notes:
> > >>
> > >> *
> > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> > >>
> > >> Distribution:
> > >>
> > >>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> > >>
> > >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> > >>
> > >>    *
> > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> > >>
> > >> Documentation:
> > >>
> > >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> > >>
> > >> Sources:
> > >>
> > >>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> > >>
> > >> Release Candidates History:
> > >>
> > >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> > >>
> > >>    * RC2
> > >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> > >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> > >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> > >>    - nicified README links
> > >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> > >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> > >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> > >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> > >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> > >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
> > >>    - added a new templatized static class
> > >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> > >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> > >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> > >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> > >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> > >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> > >> jar without explanations...)
> > >>
> > >> * RC3
> > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> > >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> > >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> > >>
> > >> * RC4
> > >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>     --
> > >>     Claude
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@velocity.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
> > >>
> > >
> >
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> >
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
There is one more thing that I want to debug today (hopefully answer
before 6pm GMT+1) to check if it's a side effect of this bug, another
regression or a mistake I made when I upgraded since a lot of APIs
changed (it's not an obvious error, just a slight difference in the
result but there are quite a few layers of abstractions to debug
between the result and the Velocity engine).

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Claude Brisson
<cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> Fixed. Thanks for the report.
>
> Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report
> before I push out the next RC?
>
> On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > Hi sorry me again,
> >
> > I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> > <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
> >> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
> >>
> >> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> >> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> >> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> >> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
> >>
> >> Release notes:
> >>
> >> *
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
> >>
> >> Distribution:
> >>
> >>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
> >>
> >> Maven 2 staging repository:
> >>
> >>    *
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
> >>
> >> Documentation:
> >>
> >> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
> >>
> >> Sources:
> >>
> >>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
> >>
> >> Release Candidates History:
> >>
> >>    * RC1 Initial RC
> >>
> >>    * RC2
> >>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
> >>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
> >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> >>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> >> parser customization feature in the *building* section
> >>    - nicified README links
> >>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
> >>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
> >>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
> >>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
> >>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
> >>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
> >>    - added a new templatized static class
> >> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
> >>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> >> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
> >>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> >> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> >> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> >> jar without explanations...)
> >>
> >> * RC3
> >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> >> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
> >>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
> >>
> >> * RC4
> >>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
> >>
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Claude
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@velocity.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Claude Brisson <cl...@renegat.net.INVALID>.
Fixed. Thanks for the report.

Thomas, do you think you may have any other subtle xwiki bug to report 
before I push out the next RC?

On 20-01-03 12 h 31, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> Hi sorry me again,
>
> I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
> <cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
>>
>> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
>> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
>> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
>> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
>>
>> Release notes:
>>
>> *
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
>>
>> Distribution:
>>
>>    * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
>>
>> Maven 2 staging repository:
>>
>>    *
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
>>
>> Documentation:
>>
>> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
>>
>> Sources:
>>
>>    * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
>>
>> Release Candidates History:
>>
>>    * RC1 Initial RC
>>
>>    * RC2
>>    - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
>>    - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
>>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
>>    - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
>> parser customization feature in the *building* section
>>    - nicified README links
>>    - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
>>    - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
>>    - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
>>    - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
>>    - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
>>    - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
>>    - added a new templatized static class
>> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
>>    - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
>> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
>>    - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
>> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
>> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
>> jar without explanations...)
>>
>> * RC3
>>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
>> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
>>    - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
>>
>> * RC4
>>    - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     Claude
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

Posted by Thomas Mortagne <th...@xwiki.com>.
Hi sorry me again,

I just hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-924.

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM Claude Brisson
<cl...@renegat.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 is available.
>
> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
> Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 has been made, and at this time it is simply a
> "test build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
>
> Release notes:
>
> *
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/release-notes.html
>
> Distribution:
>
>   * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-engine/2.2/
>
> Maven 2 staging repository:
>
>   *
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachevelocity-1032/
>
> Documentation:
>
> * https://velocity.apache.org/engine/2.2/
>
> Sources:
>
>   * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/velocity/engine/tags/2.2/
>
> Release Candidates History:
>
>   * RC1 Initial RC
>
>   * RC2
>   - added BigInteger and BigDecimal implicit conversions
>   - [VELOCITY-923] fixed a parser regression for `$foo||`
>   - [VELOCITY-904] fixed two corner case bugs for the
> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
>   - fixed engine and dependency versions in README and mention the
> parser customization feature in the *building* section
>   - nicified README links
>   - upgraded surfire plugin version from 2.19.1 to 2.22.1
>   - upgraded maven-jar-plugin from 3.1.1 to 3.2.2
>   - added version 1.2 for extra-enforcer-rules
>   - upgraded maven-javadoc-plugin from 3.1.0 to 3.1.1
>   - upgraded findbugs-maven-plugin from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5
>   - upgraded maven-release-plugin from *unspecified* to 3.0.0-M1
>   - added a new templatized static class
> org.apache.velocity.runtime.VelocityEngineVersion.java
>   - use the File Separator control character to mark the end of stream
> for the parser (instead of the zero-width space char)
>   - reviewed packaging of engine examples (refreshed content, plus made
> them as a standalone zip file with readme, shell scripts, dependencies
> and examples sources rather than a meaningless standalone pom next to a
> jar without explanations...)
>
> * RC3
>   - [VELOCITY-904] fixed yet another corner case bugs for the
> velocimacro.arguments.preserve_literals backward compatibility flag
>   - upgraded SLF4J from 1..7.28 to 1.7.30
>
> * RC4
>   - [VELOCITY-904] fixed a regression introduced in RC3
>
>
>    --
>    Claude
>
>
>
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