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[users@httpd] image folder outside the root....how to access it ?
Hello everyone, I have been trying to make this work but so far I havent been able to successfully load an image (or other media file) that is in a folder outside the root of my domain. I initially wanted to do this in order to be able to deliver this images from code running inside my serer, but to prevent people from linking directly to the image (or file) using the address bar (example: http://www.fakedomain.com/images/image1.jpg).
I know it might be possible to achieve this using an .htaccess but I heard they are a little bit unsecure plus the slow down the server. (in the apache website they reccomend not using it).
My problem is that whenever I try to link to an image outise the root it simply will not work. For example lets say my fictional root folder is this one: www/var/public_html/ and lets just say the index of my website then is this: www/var/public_html/index.html now lets just say I want to put my images in a folder located outside the root, like this: www/images/image1.jpg etc. I should be able to link to the image like this from my index.html file: ../images/image1.jpg but it doesnt work. Ive tried several combinations but nothing seems to work.
My question to you guys is if you know what apache setting needs to be turned on (or off) to enable this? or how should I link to images outside the root.
Thanks in advanced and I hope anyone here can help me because I have looked in a lot of places with no success. Thanks again !!!
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Re: [users@httpd] image folder outside the root....how to access it ?
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On 9/25/07, Daniel Yaÿfffffffffff1ez <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone, I have been trying to make this work but so far I havent been able to successfully load an image (or other media file) that is in a folder outside the root of my domain. I initially wanted to do this in order to be able to deliver this images from code running inside my serer, but to prevent people from linking directly to the image (or file) using the address bar (example: http://www.fakedomain.com/images/image1.jpg).
>
> I know it might be possible to achieve this using an .htaccess but I heard they are a little bit unsecure plus the slow down the server. (in the apache website they reccomend not using it).
>
> My problem is that whenever I try to link to an image outise the root it simply will not work. For example lets say my fictional root folder is this one: www/var/public_html/ and lets just say the index of my website then is this: www/var/public_html/index.html now lets just say I want to put my images in a folder located outside the root, like this: www/images/image1.jpg etc. I should be able to link to the image like this from my index.html file: ../images/image1.jpg but it doesnt work. Ive tried several combinations but nothing seems to work.
>
> My question to you guys is if you know what apache setting needs to be turned on (or off) to enable this? or how should I link to images outside the root.
>
> Thanks in advanced and I hope anyone here can help me because I have looked in a lot of places with no success. Thanks again !!!
>
You've got a fundamental problem here: If the image file is not
accessible from the web, then it can't be embedded in an html page. In
order for the image to be displayed as part of the html page, the
browser makes a separate request for the image that, to the server,
looks identical to a request for the image alone (with the important
exception of the content of the Referer HTTP request header). Putting
the images outside the root is not, in itself, a problem. You can
simply use an Alias to map them into the webspace so they are
accessible from the web. But this will not help your direct linking
problem.
Here's my suggestion: 1. Check to see if you really have a direct
linking problem. Is this really causing you serious problems? Can you
fix it just by occasionally changing the name of your image file? 2.
If you decide you really need to prevent hotlinking/embedding of your
images in external pages, use one of the suggestions here:
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DisableImageHotLinking
Note that neither of these require the use of .htaccess.
Joshua.
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[users@httpd] Re: image folder outside the root....how to access it ?
Posted by Michelle Konzack <li...@freenet.de>.
Am 2007-09-25 10:13:21, schrieb Daniel Yaÿfffffffffff1ez:
> My question to you guys is if you know what apache setting needs to be
> turned on (or off) to enable this? or how should I link to images
> outside the root.
<IMG src="http://www.somedomain.tld/image.php?id=cdshcjcehzdjwdhwdw">
I use a PHP cgi to send ANY content outside the Document-Root.
Attention: Do not forget to send THE RIGHT content/type.
Also my "image.php" count the access per minute per IP. So no one can
abuse my "image.php" to suck an entired Website of 28 TByte of documents
in light speed.
(No one will access more then 2-4 Documents per minute on my website and
then read it or such... even if my website can serv over 200 per minute)
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by Sander Temme <sc...@apache.org>.
On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:17 AM, James Sherwood wrote:
> We are using Apache 2.0.54 on a windows server 2003. When I try to
> copy the logs I get the error "A program has a partial lock on the
> file"
This means you're trying to copy a file that's being written to, and
the OS thinks it has a good reason not to let you do that. Why are
you trying to copy the live file? It'll get you a bunch of stale
data and next time you copy it won't be easy to determine the
boundary of the stuff you have already copied.
Are you trying to rotate the logs? The best way to do that is as
follows:
1) Rename the old log file(s). Apache will continue to write log
data to
the old files, since it has open file handles on them and the OS
is not
fooled by something so trivial as a filename
2) Send Apache a restart (or graceful restart) by calling
c:\path\to\httpd -k restart
(or -k graceful). This causes Apache to open new, empty log
files with
the original names, closing the old open file handles. New log
entries
will appear in the new log files without any loss.
S.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Mark A. Craig wrote:
>
>> Should I "pipe up" at this juncture and mention the ongoing trouble with
>> using such utilities with Apache in Windows?
>>
>
> No problems. 2.2.6 solves these issues.
>
> Bill
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Even with the issues, I believe Rotatelogs still 'works' under 2.0.54. I
could be wrong as I just jumped ship to Linux and everything got
upgraded in the process.
Norm
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Mark A. Craig wrote:
> Should I "pipe up" at this juncture and mention the ongoing trouble with
> using such utilities with Apache in Windows?
No problems. 2.2.6 solves these issues.
Bill
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by "Mark A. Craig" <ma...@gmail.com>.
Err, that was supposed to be humor, but I hit a wrong key and sent the message
before I was done making it obvious. :-/
Mark
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
From: Mark A. Craig <ma...@gmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 05:45:58 PM
> Should I "pipe up" at this juncture and mention the ongoing trouble with
> using such utilities with Apache in Windows?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
> From: Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 03:58:48 PM
>
>> James Sherwood wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone knows a way to copy a log file from apache
>>> without shuting down apache on a windows server 2003?
>>>
>>> We are using Apache 2.0.54 on a windows server 2003. When I try to
>>> copy the logs I get the error "A program has a partial lock on the file"
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --James
>>>
>>>
>> Rotatelogs.exe
>>
>> Do a search on apache.org
>>
>> Norm
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by "Mark A. Craig" <ma...@gmail.com>.
Should I "pipe up" at this juncture and mention the ongoing trouble with using
such utilities with Apache in Windows?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
From: Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 03:58:48 PM
> James Sherwood wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows a way to copy a log file from apache
>> without shuting down apache on a windows server 2003?
>>
>> We are using Apache 2.0.54 on a windows server 2003. When I try to
>> copy the logs I get the error "A program has a partial lock on the file"
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --James
>>
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> Rotatelogs.exe
>
> Do a search on apache.org
>
> Norm
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
James Sherwood wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows a way to copy a log file from apache
> without shuting down apache on a windows server 2003?
>
> We are using Apache 2.0.54 on a windows server 2003. When I try to
> copy the logs I get the error "A program has a partial lock on the file"
>
> Thanks,
> --James
>
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Rotatelogs.exe
Do a search on apache.org
Norm
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[users@httpd] Apache log files on Windows
Posted by James Sherwood <js...@rgisolutions.com>.
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone knows a way to copy a log file from apache without
shuting down apache on a windows server 2003?
We are using Apache 2.0.54 on a windows server 2003. When I try to copy the
logs I get the error "A program has a partial lock on the file"
Thanks,
--James
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Re: [users@httpd] image folder outside the root....how to access
it ?
Posted by Jesse Ross <jr...@broad.mit.edu>.
Hi Daniel,
This is what the Alias directive is for:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#alias
Regards,
Jesse Ross
Daniel Yaÿfffffffffff1ez wrote:
> Hello everyone, I have been trying to make this work but so far I havent been able to successfully load an image (or other media file) that is in a folder outside the root of my domain. I initially wanted to do this in order to be able to deliver this images from code running inside my serer, but to prevent people from linking directly to the image (or file) using the address bar (example: http://www.fakedomain.com/images/image1.jpg).
>
> I know it might be possible to achieve this using an .htaccess but I heard they are a little bit unsecure plus the slow down the server. (in the apache website they reccomend not using it).
>
> My problem is that whenever I try to link to an image outise the root it simply will not work. For example lets say my fictional root folder is this one: www/var/public_html/ and lets just say the index of my website then is this: www/var/public_html/index.html now lets just say I want to put my images in a folder located outside the root, like this: www/images/image1.jpg etc. I should be able to link to the image like this from my index.html file: ../images/image1.jpg but it doesnt work. Ive tried several combinations but nothing seems to work.
>
> My question to you guys is if you know what apache setting needs to be turned on (or off) to enable this? or how should I link to images outside the root.
>
> Thanks in advanced and I hope anyone here can help me because I have looked in a lot of places with no success. Thanks again !!!
>
>
>
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