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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com> on 2012/10/14 23:48:37 UTC
Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
Words of guidance?
joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com>.
I can try that, this evening.
Thought that was expressly warned against. Did I mis-read?
joe a.
>>> <da...@chaosreigns.com> 10/15/12 2:37 PM >>>
Try sending it from the server you're testing?
On 10/15, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages with the GTUBE "signature",
> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped in my day jobs outgoing
> queue, etc.
>
> ??
>
> joe a.
>
> >>> "Joseph Acquisto" <jo...@j4computers.com> 10/14/12 5:50 PM >>>
> Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
> SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
>
> However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
>
> Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
> test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
>
> Words of guidance?
>
> joe a.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com>.
>>> On 10/15/2012 at 2:36 PM, <da...@chaosreigns.com> wrote:
> Try sending it from the server you're testing?
>
spamassassin -D < gtube.txt
Seems to put out a lot of text to screen.
joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by da...@chaosreigns.com.
Try sending it from the server you're testing?
On 10/15, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages with the GTUBE "signature",
> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped in my day jobs outgoing
> queue, etc.
>
> ??
>
> joe a.
>
> >>> "Joseph Acquisto" <jo...@j4computers.com> 10/14/12 5:50 PM >>>
> Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
> SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
>
> However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
>
> Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
> test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
>
> Words of guidance?
>
> joe a.
>
>
>
>
--
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat,
and wrong." - H. L. Mencken
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Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Martin Gregorie <ma...@gregorie.org>.
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 19:23 -0400, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
> >>> On 10/15/2012 at 3:46 PM, Martin Gregorie <ma...@gregorie.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:02 -0400, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
> >> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages
> >> with the GTUBE "signature",
> >> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped
> >> in my day jobs outgoing
> >> queue, etc.
> >>
> > Is there any sign of these messages in your mail logs?
> >
> > Its often easier to see what's happening by looking at the logs rather
> > than checking if anything is trapped in a queue.
>
> Not a sign. I use fetchmail to grab mail from an ISP, so I can see
> pretty clearly when messages are fetched.
> There's not all that much traffic when I am sending these GTUBE
> messages.
>
Two observations:
1) fetchmail is buggy and in a way that can cause it to leave main
sitting in your mailbox at the ISP. I gave up on it several years back
and replaced it with getmail, which doesn't have these problems. If you
use one, you can even use the same MDA you wrote for fetchmail with
getmail.
2) With that setup you can punt almost anything out the door and know
that it will come back via your ISP and fetchmail/getmail. Simply point
a mail client at your ISP's MTA and send mail to yourself with it: the
message will go through the ISP's delivery mechanism and back to your
local MTA via fetchmail/getmail. You can even forge a GMAIL From: line
unless, of course, your ISP has rules that would prevent that, but you
can check for that easily enough: send a test message with your usual
sender address: it should come back. Try another with a forged GMAIL
sender: if you don't see it come back you know that your ISP has a
forged sender trap installed.
Martin
> joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com>.
> I suggest you contact your ISP and ask whether they are doing anything
> that would discard GTUBE messages.
>
> --
> John Hardin KA7OHZ http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
> jhardin@impsec.org FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
Sad, but likely true.
joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2012 at 3:46 PM, Martin Gregorie <ma...@gregorie.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:02 -0400, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
>>> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages
>>> with the GTUBE "signature", from external sites, don't seem to arrive.
>>> I don't see them trapped in my day jobs outgoing queue, etc.
>>
>> Is there any sign of these messages in your mail logs?
>>
>> Its often easier to see what's happening by looking at the logs rather
>> than checking if anything is trapped in a queue.
>
> Not a sign. I use fetchmail to grab mail from an ISP, so I can see pretty clearly when messages are fetched.
> There's not all that much traffic when I am sending these GTUBE messages.
I suggest you contact your ISP and ask whether they are doing anything
that would discard GTUBE messages.
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Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com>.
>>> On 10/15/2012 at 3:46 PM, Martin Gregorie <ma...@gregorie.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:02 -0400, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
>> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages
>> with the GTUBE "signature",
>> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped
>> in my day jobs outgoing
>> queue, etc.
>>
> Is there any sign of these messages in your mail logs?
>
> Its often easier to see what's happening by looking at the logs rather
> than checking if anything is trapped in a queue.
Not a sign. I use fetchmail to grab mail from an ISP, so I can see pretty clearly when messages are fetched.
There's not all that much traffic when I am sending these GTUBE messages.
joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Martin Gregorie <ma...@gregorie.org>.
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:02 -0400, Joseph Acquisto wrote:
> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages
> with the GTUBE "signature",
> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped
> in my day jobs outgoing
> queue, etc.
>
Is there any sign of these messages in your mail logs?
Its often easier to see what's happening by looking at the logs rather
than checking if anything is trapped in a queue.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>.
15.10.2012 21:02, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti:
> Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages with the GTUBE "signature",
> from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped in my day jobs outgoing
> queue, etc.
>
Maybe the server (you used to send) blocked it?
>>>> "Joseph Acquisto" <jo...@j4computers.com> 10/14/12 5:50 PM >>>
> Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
> SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
>
> However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
>
> Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
> test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
>
> Words of guidance?
>
> joe a.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Joseph Acquisto <jo...@j4computers.com>.
Still can't get GTUBE messages. Am I being dense? Sending messages with the GTUBE "signature",
from external sites, don't seem to arrive. I don't see them trapped in my day jobs outgoing
queue, etc.
??
joe a.
>>> "Joseph Acquisto" <jo...@j4computers.com> 10/14/12 5:50 PM >>>
Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
Words of guidance?
joe a.
Re: Testing new install - was Updating 3.2.4 on SUSE sles10
Posted by Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>.
15.10.2012 00:48, Joseph Acquisto kirjoitti:
> Upgrade effort abandoned. Installed OpenSuse 12.2 which, oddly enough, came with the new version of
> SA. All seems to be working well. OS seems a big leisurely though.
>
> However, I can't seem to test with GTUBE. Gmail seems to eat these, they never get to me. Normal? Other gmail tests do.
>
> Also, cannot test using the "spamassassin -D < /usr/share/spamassassin/doc/spamassassin-3.0.3/sample-spam.txt"
> test, as, in this install, there is no doc directory. At least I have not found it yet.
>
> Words of guidance?
>
> joe a.
>
I have it in
/usr/share/doc/spamc/sample-spam.txt
This is a Linux Mint... Just locate sample-spam.txt
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