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Local Web page
Hi,
following Wlada's mail, I'd like to take this a little further, adding a
few questions:
* is there a way to receive a live feed from the blog, automatically
updating locale pages with five or six most recent news/posts like
in the AOO home page?
* what are the mandatory links in any AOO local page?
* how can I add and translate the official header? I've seen it
translated in other locale pages;
* is the footer automatically added?
I'm far from having good skills but I still would like to see an up to
date Web page in Portuguese-PT. I've even developed a model, but I lack
these and other informations.
Regards,
Pedro.
Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
What is the zip file you have mentioned?
You have to get the zip file from Rob, if you dont have, I will send
to you. Reply to me after this email.
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RE: Local Web page
Posted by ßouЯock™ ღ <hi...@hotmail.com>.
Hello Rob,
Also I want test file for turkish web site translation.Could you please send it for me?
Regards
Burak Yavuz
Re: Local Web page
Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Em 10/09/2013 14:07, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
> Oh shit, ok.
> Hey pedro, sorry, bro. I dont know about this.
> Rob has just sent you the file.
> Sorry, bro.
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No problem.
Thank you,
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
Oh shit, ok.
Hey pedro, sorry, bro. I dont know about this.
Rob has just sent you the file.
Sorry, bro.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Mr. Phan Anh <pp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> @Pedro: here is the zip file from Rob.
>>
>
> The zip file for each language is different. There are some
> hard-coded directories for /vi-test for example. So I'll need to make
> and send a special ZIP for every language.
>
> But this is only a "beta test" of the system. I'm hoping to automate
> that part later.
>
> I've now sent Pedro a pt-test.zip file.
>
> -Rob
>
>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Mr. Phan Anh <pp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Pedro: here is the zip file from Rob.
>
The zip file for each language is different. There are some
hard-coded directories for /vi-test for example. So I'll need to make
and send a special ZIP for every language.
But this is only a "beta test" of the system. I'm hoping to automate
that part later.
I've now sent Pedro a pt-test.zip file.
-Rob
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
@Pedro: here is the zip file from Rob.
Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
Read my previous email about zip file.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em 10/09/2013 11:07, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
>
>> Be carefull with mdtextfiles.
>> There are about 4 htlm files and over 20 mdtext files.
>> Read the email of Rob about how to edit mdtext files carefully, or,
>> you can send the email such as this thread, I will cooperate with you.
>> If I dont know the issues, we will ask Rob.
>
> Ok, thank you.
>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
>> <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 10/09/2013 10:54, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
>>>
>>>> The zip file has:
>>>> a. Folder
>>>> b. mdtext file
>>>> c. html files in the folder
>>>>
>>>> So, our jobs are:
>>>> a. Translate the content of html and mdtext files
>>>> b. With mdtext files, we use notepad++ to edit the content of mdtext
>>>> files and html files
>>>> c. Kompozer which I have mentioned can edit bot mdtext files and html
>>>> files, but, kompozer is better in htlml, with mdtext files, I
>>>> recommend you to use notepad++ to edit.
>>>>
>>>> About the adding pages or CSS template:
>>>> a. No, you and I CAN NOT and DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to add the pages.
>>>> b. We just translate the content of html and mdtext files.
>>>> Why?
>>>> If we add a new page without the permission from Rob, he wont be able
>>>> to attach our files to the web. Because the structure of the web is
>>>> decided by Rob.
>>>> If you or I want to add a new page, we should wait the reply and
>>>> permission from Rob.
>>>>
>>> Thank you for your advise. Will do so.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pedro.
>>>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Em 10/09/2013 11:07, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
> Be carefull with mdtextfiles.
> There are about 4 htlm files and over 20 mdtext files.
> Read the email of Rob about how to edit mdtext files carefully, or,
> you can send the email such as this thread, I will cooperate with you.
> If I dont know the issues, we will ask Rob.
Ok, thank you.
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
> <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Em 10/09/2013 10:54, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
>>
>>> The zip file has:
>>> a. Folder
>>> b. mdtext file
>>> c. html files in the folder
>>>
>>> So, our jobs are:
>>> a. Translate the content of html and mdtext files
>>> b. With mdtext files, we use notepad++ to edit the content of mdtext
>>> files and html files
>>> c. Kompozer which I have mentioned can edit bot mdtext files and html
>>> files, but, kompozer is better in htlml, with mdtext files, I
>>> recommend you to use notepad++ to edit.
>>>
>>> About the adding pages or CSS template:
>>> a. No, you and I CAN NOT and DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to add the pages.
>>> b. We just translate the content of html and mdtext files.
>>> Why?
>>> If we add a new page without the permission from Rob, he wont be able
>>> to attach our files to the web. Because the structure of the web is
>>> decided by Rob.
>>> If you or I want to add a new page, we should wait the reply and
>>> permission from Rob.
>>>
>> Thank you for your advise. Will do so.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pedro.
>>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
Be carefull with mdtextfiles.
There are about 4 htlm files and over 20 mdtext files.
Read the email of Rob about how to edit mdtext files carefully, or,
you can send the email such as this thread, I will cooperate with you.
If I dont know the issues, we will ask Rob.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em 10/09/2013 10:54, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
>
>> The zip file has:
>> a. Folder
>> b. mdtext file
>> c. html files in the folder
>>
>> So, our jobs are:
>> a. Translate the content of html and mdtext files
>> b. With mdtext files, we use notepad++ to edit the content of mdtext
>> files and html files
>> c. Kompozer which I have mentioned can edit bot mdtext files and html
>> files, but, kompozer is better in htlml, with mdtext files, I
>> recommend you to use notepad++ to edit.
>>
>> About the adding pages or CSS template:
>> a. No, you and I CAN NOT and DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to add the pages.
>> b. We just translate the content of html and mdtext files.
>> Why?
>> If we add a new page without the permission from Rob, he wont be able
>> to attach our files to the web. Because the structure of the web is
>> decided by Rob.
>> If you or I want to add a new page, we should wait the reply and
>> permission from Rob.
>>
> Thank you for your advise. Will do so.
>
> Regards,
> Pedro.
>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Em 10/09/2013 10:54, Mr. Phan Anh escreveu:
> The zip file has:
> a. Folder
> b. mdtext file
> c. html files in the folder
>
> So, our jobs are:
> a. Translate the content of html and mdtext files
> b. With mdtext files, we use notepad++ to edit the content of mdtext
> files and html files
> c. Kompozer which I have mentioned can edit bot mdtext files and html
> files, but, kompozer is better in htlml, with mdtext files, I
> recommend you to use notepad++ to edit.
>
> About the adding pages or CSS template:
> a. No, you and I CAN NOT and DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to add the pages.
> b. We just translate the content of html and mdtext files.
> Why?
> If we add a new page without the permission from Rob, he wont be able
> to attach our files to the web. Because the structure of the web is
> decided by Rob.
> If you or I want to add a new page, we should wait the reply and
> permission from Rob.
>
Thank you for your advise. Will do so.
Regards,
Pedro.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
The zip file has:
a. Folder
b. mdtext file
c. html files in the folder
So, our jobs are:
a. Translate the content of html and mdtext files
b. With mdtext files, we use notepad++ to edit the content of mdtext
files and html files
c. Kompozer which I have mentioned can edit bot mdtext files and html
files, but, kompozer is better in htlml, with mdtext files, I
recommend you to use notepad++ to edit.
About the adding pages or CSS template:
a. No, you and I CAN NOT and DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to add the pages.
b. We just translate the content of html and mdtext files.
Why?
If we add a new page without the permission from Rob, he wont be able
to attach our files to the web. Because the structure of the web is
decided by Rob.
If you or I want to add a new page, we should wait the reply and
permission from Rob.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em 09/09/2013 16:36, Michal Hriň escreveu:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Hi Pedro, Vladislav and Phan Anh,
>>
>> Our product web site is static and it is written in HTML and Markdown.
>> (for download page we use Javascript). To create a NL page the whole
>> you need is basic knowledge of HTML, good to know is SVN.
>>
>> 1; Download source of website.
>> 2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
>> notepad++ ?, kwrite...
>> 3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
>> 4; Upload source
>> 5; Publish site
>>
>> The best way to download source is svn co, but you can manually download
>> file by file by
>> Save As in your browser or you can edit sources with CMS.
>>
>> The header is there:
>>
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
>>
>> Then add this file to your's NL path ex. ooo-site/content/pt/brand ....
>> translate it,
>> add ssi.mdtext to ooo-site/tempaltes/pt ... (not sure Dave can help:) ),
>> I'm no sure where
>> is footer located I'm not using it.
>>
>> The mandatory links for your site is download links for product in your
>> language. :)
>>
>> The easiest way to re-create NL page is to copy English one translate it
>> as I an Spanish people
>> done oo.o/sk , oo.o/es. But you can create your own.
>>
>> For tis time the page is static and I don't know about script for
>> automatic adding blogposts to
>> site.
>>
>> Once more: whole you need is basic knowledge of HTML,MDTEXT,JS and SVN and
>> a text editor.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michal Hriň
>>
>> PS. If you hesitate to start, I can send you a English site in .zip and
>> you can look at it and translate it
>> , then I can commit it for you.
>>
>>
>> Here is some information about webdevel:
>>
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html
>>
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>
> Hi,
> I just asked Rob for the files, I presume it is the same zip you mention.
> You say above that we can create our own pages.
> So I can use the info in the zip (links, etc.), the same file and directory
> structure and names, and create a new layout from scratch, is that it?
> I saw the header with your link. How is that integrated in the index page,
> or any other by the way? Are they part of a .css?
> Regards,
> Pedro.
>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Em 09/09/2013 16:36, Michal Hriň escreveu:
> [...]
>
> Hi Pedro, Vladislav and Phan Anh,
>
> Our product web site is static and it is written in HTML and Markdown.
> (for download page we use Javascript). To create a NL page the whole
> you need is basic knowledge of HTML, good to know is SVN.
>
> 1; Download source of website.
> 2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
> notepad++ ?, kwrite...
> 3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
> 4; Upload source
> 5; Publish site
>
> The best way to download source is svn co, but you can manually
> download file by file by
> Save As in your browser or you can edit sources with CMS.
>
> The header is there:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
>
>
> Then add this file to your's NL path ex. ooo-site/content/pt/brand
> .... translate it,
> add ssi.mdtext to ooo-site/tempaltes/pt ... (not sure Dave can help:)
> ), I'm no sure where
> is footer located I'm not using it.
>
> The mandatory links for your site is download links for product in
> your language. :)
>
> The easiest way to re-create NL page is to copy English one translate
> it as I an Spanish people
> done oo.o/sk , oo.o/es. But you can create your own.
>
> For tis time the page is static and I don't know about script for
> automatic adding blogposts to
> site.
>
> Once more: whole you need is basic knowledge of HTML,MDTEXT,JS and SVN
> and a text editor.
>
> Regards,
> Michal Hriň
>
> PS. If you hesitate to start, I can send you a English site in .zip
> and you can look at it and translate it
> , then I can commit it for you.
>
>
> Here is some information about webdevel:
>
> http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html
>
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Hi,
I just asked Rob for the files, I presume it is the same zip you mention.
You say above that we can create our own pages.
So I can use the info in the zip (links, etc.), the same file and
directory structure and names, and create a new layout from scratch, is
that it?
I saw the header with your link. How is that integrated in the index
page, or any other by the way? Are they part of a .css?
Regards,
Pedro.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
And also by this email, I would like to ask the developer who is in
charge of CMS, please provide to me an account.
I know, some localizers have informed that we can do this by annonymous.
But I am the translator for Vietnamese Translation, an account for CMS
is a better idea.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
Please send to me the Zip file as you have mentioned.
Thank you for replying my email.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Michal Hriň <mi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dňa Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:40:14 +0200 Mr. Phan Anh <pp...@gmail.com> napísal:
>
>
>> Hello Michal.
>> 1. Thank you for your replying email, I have just read your email and
>> Jan email, Janl described about the CMS, and he gave me the link to
>> that CMS. I accessed but it required the password to move on.
>>
>> 2. As you have mention about the svn stuff, I have some stuff to ask
>> you. Please explain it to me.
>> http://www.openoffice.org/vi/
>> From this site, the content is too old and far away that are
>> compatible with AOO 4.1.
>> So, right now, the trend of this Website Localization is CMS or edit
>> offline as you mentioned?
>>
>
> We don't have established work flow for website localization.
> It is up to you what is better for you CMS or offline.
> Creating a NL page or hacking existing is ordinary web development.
>
>
>
>> Besides, you have written:
>> 1; Download source of website.
>> 2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
>> notepad++ ?, kwrite...
>> 3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
>> 4; Upload source
>> 5; Publish site
>>
>> I would like to ask about the "upload source".
>>
>
> CMS creates a patch and send it to dev@ an then commiters can commit it
> (=upload).
> Another way is that you create a patch offline - command diff or svn diff an
> then
> create issue and attach it. Or attach the page you created to issue and
> commiters
>
> can commit it for you.
>
>
>
>> Assume that I have translated the files by downloading offline and
>> edit it ( using Kompozer) then where will I send the file to?
>> Send to this list of L10n?
>>
>> Another stuff, that is, the link which I have shown to you
>> http://www.openoffice.org/vi
>> Is it too old? and The zip file as you said is newer or the same
>> structure as this one?
>>
>
> Rob prepared a copy of english page for translators, I can .zip it and send
> it to you.
> So it will be actual.
> This is not needed if you have checkouted source of website with svn.
> But this option needs to learn some svn commands.
>
> HTH
>
>> Please, reply to this email when you read it. I am now very eager about
>> this.
>>
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Michal Hriň <mi...@yahoo.com>.
Dňa Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:40:14 +0200 Mr. Phan Anh <pp...@gmail.com>
napísal:
> Hello Michal.
> 1. Thank you for your replying email, I have just read your email and
> Jan email, Janl described about the CMS, and he gave me the link to
> that CMS. I accessed but it required the password to move on.
>
> 2. As you have mention about the svn stuff, I have some stuff to ask
> you. Please explain it to me.
> http://www.openoffice.org/vi/
> From this site, the content is too old and far away that are
> compatible with AOO 4.1.
> So, right now, the trend of this Website Localization is CMS or edit
> offline as you mentioned?
>
We don't have established work flow for website localization.
It is up to you what is better for you CMS or offline.
Creating a NL page or hacking existing is ordinary web development.
> Besides, you have written:
> 1; Download source of website.
> 2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
> notepad++ ?, kwrite...
> 3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
> 4; Upload source
> 5; Publish site
>
> I would like to ask about the "upload source".
>
CMS creates a patch and send it to dev@ an then commiters can commit it
(=upload).
Another way is that you create a patch offline - command diff or svn diff
an then
create issue and attach it. Or attach the page you created to issue and
commiters
can commit it for you.
> Assume that I have translated the files by downloading offline and
> edit it ( using Kompozer) then where will I send the file to?
> Send to this list of L10n?
>
> Another stuff, that is, the link which I have shown to you
> http://www.openoffice.org/vi
> Is it too old? and The zip file as you said is newer or the same
> structure as this one?
>
Rob prepared a copy of english page for translators, I can .zip it and
send it to you.
So it will be actual.
This is not needed if you have checkouted source of website with svn.
But this option needs to learn some svn commands.
HTH
> Please, reply to this email when you read it. I am now very eager about
> this.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Kieth N. McKenna" <me...@yahoo.com>.
Mr. Phan Anh wrote:
> Hello Michal.
> 1. Thank you for your replying email, I have just read your email and
> Jan email, Janl described about the CMS, and he gave me the link to
> that CMS. I accessed but it required the password to move on.
>
> 2. As you have mention about the svn stuff, I have some stuff to ask
> you. Please explain it to me.
> http://www.openoffice.org/vi/
> From this site, the content is too old and far away that are
> compatible with AOO 4.1.
> So, right now, the trend of this Website Localization is CMS or edit
> offline as you mentioned?
>
> Besides, you have written:
> 1; Download source of website.
> 2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
> notepad++ ?, kwrite...
> 3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
> 4; Upload source
> 5; Publish site
>
> I would like to ask about the "upload source".
>
> Assume that I have translated the files by downloading offline and
> edit it ( using Kompozer) then where will I send the file to?
> Send to this list of L10n?
>
> Another stuff, that is, the link which I have shown to you
> http://www.openoffice.org/vi
> Is it too old? and The zip file as you said is newer or the same
> structure as this one?
>
> Please, reply to this email when you read it. I am now very eager about this.
>
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The following link is another tutorial that Rob did on using CMS in
anonymous mode. This mode can be used by anyone. I have used it a number
of times to send patch files to the dev list to be reviewed and committed.
Regards
Keith
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by "Mr. Phan Anh" <pp...@gmail.com>.
Hello Michal.
1. Thank you for your replying email, I have just read your email and
Jan email, Janl described about the CMS, and he gave me the link to
that CMS. I accessed but it required the password to move on.
2. As you have mention about the svn stuff, I have some stuff to ask
you. Please explain it to me.
http://www.openoffice.org/vi/
>From this site, the content is too old and far away that are
compatible with AOO 4.1.
So, right now, the trend of this Website Localization is CMS or edit
offline as you mentioned?
Besides, you have written:
1; Download source of website.
2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
notepad++ ?, kwrite...
3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
4; Upload source
5; Publish site
I would like to ask about the "upload source".
Assume that I have translated the files by downloading offline and
edit it ( using Kompozer) then where will I send the file to?
Send to this list of L10n?
Another stuff, that is, the link which I have shown to you
http://www.openoffice.org/vi
Is it too old? and The zip file as you said is newer or the same
structure as this one?
Please, reply to this email when you read it. I am now very eager about this.
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Re: Local Web page
Posted by Michal Hriň <mi...@yahoo.com>.
[...]
Hi Pedro, Vladislav and Phan Anh,
Our product web site is static and it is written in HTML and Markdown.
(for download page we use Javascript). To create a NL page the whole
you need is basic knowledge of HTML, good to know is SVN.
1; Download source of website.
2; Open it in text editor which respect UNIX white chars f.e. gedit,
notepad++ ?, kwrite...
3; Read the source, translate text with respecting HTML/MD/JS syntax.
4; Upload source
5; Publish site
The best way to download source is svn co, but you can manually download
file by file by
Save As in your browser or you can edit sources with CMS.
The header is there:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
Then add this file to your's NL path ex. ooo-site/content/pt/brand ....
translate it,
add ssi.mdtext to ooo-site/tempaltes/pt ... (not sure Dave can help:) ),
I'm no sure where
is footer located I'm not using it.
The mandatory links for your site is download links for product in your
language. :)
The easiest way to re-create NL page is to copy English one translate it
as I an Spanish people
done oo.o/sk , oo.o/es. But you can create your own.
For tis time the page is static and I don't know about script for
automatic adding blogposts to
site.
Once more: whole you need is basic knowledge of HTML,MDTEXT,JS and SVN and
a text editor.
Regards,
Michal Hriň
PS. If you hesitate to start, I can send you a English site in .zip and
you can look at it and translate it
, then I can commit it for you.
Here is some information about webdevel:
http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html
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