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Posted to user@commons.apache.org by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> on 2014/09/08 19:24:59 UTC
[OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files
other than the ones in the form?
On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
>
>
> Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> and it didn't take.
Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
doesn't work, contact infra.
There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
continued so the community banned them.
In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
to step in and deal with the moderator.
Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
HTH,
Mark
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RE: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional
files other than the ones in the form?
Posted by Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com>.
Thank you both very much. I had no idea what his issue was, and I don't want to have issues with people when it comes to programming concerns and chatting, I find our industry is extremely warm, but there are a lot of know it alls and rude people out there as well, which is why I mentioned there are always 1-2 in every forum I find.
The guy had a bad week, tried to take it out on me, really, really sad.
I closed my email yesterday to not deal with him, so I thank you both for having my back and trying to resolve this. (I thought I was getting banned lol :( ).
I thank everyone for their help in trying to help me with my issue, thank you guys for everything.
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:26:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files other than the ones in the form?
> From: davelnewton@gmail.com
> To: user@commons.apache.org
>
> Ok, thanks--we'll see what happens.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> > > and it didn't take.
> >
> > Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
> > doesn't work, contact infra.
> >
> > There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
> > far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
> >
> > I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
> > repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
> > behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
> > continued so the community banned them.
> >
> > In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
> > banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
> > to step in and deal with the moderator.
> >
> > Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
> > getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
> > project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
> > as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
> > response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
> >
> > If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
> > is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
> > less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
> > mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@commons.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
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> m: 908-380-8699
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> so: Dave Newton <http://stackoverflow.com/users/438992/dave-newton>
Re: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files
other than the ones in the form?
Posted by Dave Newton <da...@gmail.com>.
Ok, thanks--we'll see what happens.
Dave
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
> >
> >
> > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> > and it didn't take.
>
> Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
> doesn't work, contact infra.
>
> There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
> far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
>
> I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
> repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
> behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
> continued so the community banned them.
>
> In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
> banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
> to step in and deal with the moderator.
>
> Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
> getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
> project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
> as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
> response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
>
> If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
> is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
> less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
> mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
>
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>
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RE: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
Konrad-
start here
http://shiro.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
a few caveats ...before you send something out:
1)eliminate any proprietary info
2)be every so careful what you say as many people other than apache folk subscribe to this list
3)if you *think* you found a bug (anything which does not conform to published spec) file the bug here
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHIRO/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel
M-
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:00:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
> From: sebbaz@gmail.com
> To: user@commons.apache.org
>
> On 9 September 2014 20:52, Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to bother the "Commons Users List" but is it possible for someone to add me to the Shiro Mailing list? I have been having issues getting the email confirmation to work, for some reason it worked for this one, which I'm glad; however after trying it again, Shiro is still not working for me it seems. I tried all of the methods on the email, and even tried posting in the users forum, but nothing....
> >
> > If someone could add me I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.
>
> Only a moderator for the Shiro mailing list in question can do
> anything other than what you can do yourself.
> They are unlikely to be found here.
>
> Are you sure that you are sending the mail to
>
> user-subscribe@shiro.apache.org
>
> And are you sure that you are sending plain text?
> And have you checked your SPAM folder for the confirmation request?
> And have you replied to the confirmation request?
>
> You can also raise a bug request with Shiro.
>
> >> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:24:59 +0100
> >> From: markt@apache.org
> >> To: user@commons.apache.org
> >> Subject: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files other than the ones in the form?
> >>
> >> On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> >> > and it didn't take.
> >>
> >> Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
> >> doesn't work, contact infra.
> >>
> >> There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
> >> far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
> >>
> >> I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
> >> repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
> >> behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
> >> continued so the community banned them.
> >>
> >> In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
> >> banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
> >> to step in and deal with the moderator.
> >>
> >> Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
> >> getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
> >> project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
> >> as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
> >> response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
> >>
> >> If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
> >> is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
> >> less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
> >> mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@commons.apache.org
> >>
> >
>
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RE: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com>.
Yay for Nabble :D.....
> That is how the allow group works. If you are in the allow group you can
> post to the list but you don't receive e-mails. It is intended for
> things like folks who post from multiple addresses but only want to get
> one copy of the emails from the mailing list.
Gotcha, so I guess I was subscribed via that, and not the mailing list which clears up some things.
> Strange.
I always end up finding (or causing) some bug somewhere lol :p.
I guess this is all set, but I would definitely look into the shiro subscriptions to see if something is weird. I am using Hotmail, so I don't know if that is it (even though the commons one accepted me).
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:02:36 +0100
> From: markt@apache.org
> To: user@commons.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
>
> On 10/09/2014 22:56, Konrad Zuse wrote:
> >> Forum? Are you posting to user@shiro.a.o via some mechanism other than
> >> e-mailing the list directly?
> >
> > shiro-user.582556.n2.nabble.com is the forum I am referring to, as I said I couldn't get on the mailing list, so this is the next best thing.
>
> I suspected you were using Nabble.
>
> >> I've checked and you are subscribed to the allow list which means you
> >> can post but you won't receive e-mail.
> >
> > Weird, is there is a reason why I cannot receive the emails?
>
> That is how the allow group works. If you are in the allow group you can
> post to the list but you don't receive e-mails. It is intended for
> things like folks who post from multiple addresses but only want to get
> one copy of the emails from the mailing list.
>
> >> I wonder if the fact you are subscribed to the allow list means the
> >> normal subscription fails.
> >
> > Not too sure, I tried everything that I could on the list, and nothing, so I gave up for awhile until I was subscribed to this very simply. After the confirmation email I got a welcome subscribed email to Commons which I did not to Shiro.
>
> Strange.
>
> >> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
> >
> > It was one of the list owners emails, I could go find it if needed, but it's in that list somewhere.
>
> No matter.
>
> >> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
> >
> > I figured I could count on you :).
> >
> >> Generally, the route to follow is:
> >> - subscribe using the automated address
> >> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
> >> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
> >> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
> >
> > I tried replying with the reply button, then I tried to email the exact link they gave me about 3x, both plain text and reply. I tried to contact the list owners, nothing.
> >
> > How do I contact the ASF Intra Team is there a special email you could give me for that in case I need it in the future?
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact
>
> >> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
> >
> > Thanks for your time and help I appreciate it greatly!
> >
> >> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
> >> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
> >>
> >> Mark
> >
> > What's the difference between the allow and the regular list?
>
> See above.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
> > I hope that if this is an issue as you mentioned above this seemed weird, that it is hopefully fixed for others! :).
> >
> > Thanks again for everything Mark, and everyone else who tried to help me.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:47:46 +0100
> >> From: markt@apache.org
> >> To: user@commons.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
> >>
> >> On 10/09/2014 22:33, Konrad Zuse wrote:
> >>> I tried joining the Shiro mailing list a few weeks ago and I couldn't. I replied to this one exactly the same and got a confirmation. Every time I tried to confirm with the Shiro mailing list, nothing.
> >>>
> >>> After I subscribed to this one, I tried it again, and nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Apparently my shiro user posts from the forum are making it to the mailing list, but I am not getting mail sent to this email.
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>> I tried to send the mail to the correct subscription, I tried to confirm multiple times through multiple channels, and nothing.
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>> There was something for "contacting the owner" of the user-group, but I didn't get an email either.
> >>
> >> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
> >>
> >>> Sorry to bother everyone, I just figured that someone on here might have access to it.
> >>
> >> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
> >>
> >> Generally, the route to follow is:
> >> - subscribe using the automated address
> >> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
> >> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
> >> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
> >>
> >> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
> >>
> >> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
> >> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@commons.apache.org
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 10/09/2014 22:56, Konrad Zuse wrote:
>> Forum? Are you posting to user@shiro.a.o via some mechanism other than
>> e-mailing the list directly?
>
> shiro-user.582556.n2.nabble.com is the forum I am referring to, as I said I couldn't get on the mailing list, so this is the next best thing.
I suspected you were using Nabble.
>> I've checked and you are subscribed to the allow list which means you
>> can post but you won't receive e-mail.
>
> Weird, is there is a reason why I cannot receive the emails?
That is how the allow group works. If you are in the allow group you can
post to the list but you don't receive e-mails. It is intended for
things like folks who post from multiple addresses but only want to get
one copy of the emails from the mailing list.
>> I wonder if the fact you are subscribed to the allow list means the
>> normal subscription fails.
>
> Not too sure, I tried everything that I could on the list, and nothing, so I gave up for awhile until I was subscribed to this very simply. After the confirmation email I got a welcome subscribed email to Commons which I did not to Shiro.
Strange.
>> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
>
> It was one of the list owners emails, I could go find it if needed, but it's in that list somewhere.
No matter.
>> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
>
> I figured I could count on you :).
>
>> Generally, the route to follow is:
>> - subscribe using the automated address
>> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
>> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
>> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
>
> I tried replying with the reply button, then I tried to email the exact link they gave me about 3x, both plain text and reply. I tried to contact the list owners, nothing.
>
> How do I contact the ASF Intra Team is there a special email you could give me for that in case I need it in the future?
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact
>> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
>
> Thanks for your time and help I appreciate it greatly!
>
>> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
>> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
>>
>> Mark
>
> What's the difference between the allow and the regular list?
See above.
Cheers,
Mark
> I hope that if this is an issue as you mentioned above this seemed weird, that it is hopefully fixed for others! :).
>
> Thanks again for everything Mark, and everyone else who tried to help me.
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:47:46 +0100
>> From: markt@apache.org
>> To: user@commons.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
>>
>> On 10/09/2014 22:33, Konrad Zuse wrote:
>>> I tried joining the Shiro mailing list a few weeks ago and I couldn't. I replied to this one exactly the same and got a confirmation. Every time I tried to confirm with the Shiro mailing list, nothing.
>>>
>>> After I subscribed to this one, I tried it again, and nothing.
>>>
>>> Apparently my shiro user posts from the forum are making it to the mailing list, but I am not getting mail sent to this email.
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>>> I tried to send the mail to the correct subscription, I tried to confirm multiple times through multiple channels, and nothing.
>>
>
>>
>>> There was something for "contacting the owner" of the user-group, but I didn't get an email either.
>>
>> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
>>
>>> Sorry to bother everyone, I just figured that someone on here might have access to it.
>>
>> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
>>
>> Generally, the route to follow is:
>> - subscribe using the automated address
>> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
>> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
>> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
>>
>> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
>>
>> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
>> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@commons.apache.org
>>
>
>
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RE: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com>.
> Forum? Are you posting to user@shiro.a.o via some mechanism other than
> e-mailing the list directly?
shiro-user.582556.n2.nabble.com is the forum I am referring to, as I said I couldn't get on the mailing list, so this is the next best thing.
> I've checked and you are subscribed to the allow list which means you
> can post but you won't receive e-mail.
Weird, is there is a reason why I cannot receive the emails?
> I wonder if the fact you are subscribed to the allow list means the
> normal subscription fails.
Not too sure, I tried everything that I could on the list, and nothing, so I gave up for awhile until I was subscribed to this very simply. After the confirmation email I got a welcome subscribed email to Commons which I did not to Shiro.
> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
It was one of the list owners emails, I could go find it if needed, but it's in that list somewhere.
> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
I figured I could count on you :).
> Generally, the route to follow is:
> - subscribe using the automated address
> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
I tried replying with the reply button, then I tried to email the exact link they gave me about 3x, both plain text and reply. I tried to contact the list owners, nothing.
How do I contact the ASF Intra Team is there a special email you could give me for that in case I need it in the future?
> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
Thanks for your time and help I appreciate it greatly!
> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
>
> Mark
What's the difference between the allow and the regular list?
I hope that if this is an issue as you mentioned above this seemed weird, that it is hopefully fixed for others! :).
Thanks again for everything Mark, and everyone else who tried to help me.
Have a great day.
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:47:46 +0100
> From: markt@apache.org
> To: user@commons.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
>
> On 10/09/2014 22:33, Konrad Zuse wrote:
> > I tried joining the Shiro mailing list a few weeks ago and I couldn't. I replied to this one exactly the same and got a confirmation. Every time I tried to confirm with the Shiro mailing list, nothing.
> >
> > After I subscribed to this one, I tried it again, and nothing.
> >
> > Apparently my shiro user posts from the forum are making it to the mailing list, but I am not getting mail sent to this email.
>
>
>
> > I tried to send the mail to the correct subscription, I tried to confirm multiple times through multiple channels, and nothing.
>
>
> > There was something for "contacting the owner" of the user-group, but I didn't get an email either.
>
> Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
>
> > Sorry to bother everyone, I just figured that someone on here might have access to it.
>
> In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
>
> Generally, the route to follow is:
> - subscribe using the automated address
> - if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
> - if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
> - if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
>
> I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
>
> I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
> list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
>
> Mark
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: user-help@commons.apache.org
>
Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 10/09/2014 22:33, Konrad Zuse wrote:
> I tried joining the Shiro mailing list a few weeks ago and I couldn't. I replied to this one exactly the same and got a confirmation. Every time I tried to confirm with the Shiro mailing list, nothing.
>
> After I subscribed to this one, I tried it again, and nothing.
>
> Apparently my shiro user posts from the forum are making it to the mailing list, but I am not getting mail sent to this email.
Forum? Are you posting to user@shiro.a.o via some mechanism other than
e-mailing the list directly?
I've checked and you are subscribed to the allow list which means you
can post but you won't receive e-mail.
> I tried to send the mail to the correct subscription, I tried to confirm multiple times through multiple channels, and nothing.
I wonder if the fact you are subscribed to the allow list means the
normal subscription fails.
> There was something for "contacting the owner" of the user-group, but I didn't get an email either.
Without knowing which e-mail address you sent that to, I can't comment.
> Sorry to bother everyone, I just figured that someone on here might have access to it.
In this case, someone does but that is more luck than anything else.
Generally, the route to follow is:
- subscribe using the automated address
- if that doesn't work try again and make sure you send plain text email
- if that doesn't work contact the list owners (a.k.a moderators)
- if the moderators don't reply, contact the ASF infra team
I'm on the infra team so I can help you in this instance.
I've removed you from the user-allow list and subscribed you to the user
list. Enjoy the extra e-mail in your inbox :)
Mark
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RE: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com>.
I tried joining the Shiro mailing list a few weeks ago and I couldn't. I replied to this one exactly the same and got a confirmation. Every time I tried to confirm with the Shiro mailing list, nothing.
After I subscribed to this one, I tried it again, and nothing.
Apparently my shiro user posts from the forum are making it to the mailing list, but I am not getting mail sent to this email.
I tried to send the mail to the correct subscription, I tried to confirm multiple times through multiple channels, and nothing.
There was something for "contacting the owner" of the user-group, but I didn't get an email either.
Sorry to bother everyone, I just figured tyhat someone on here might have access to it.
Apparently someone was just banned for attacking me in another post in FileUpload, by a member who said he also banned him via Tomcat mailing list, which I'm assuming is not connected to this either...
Hopefully this works out, but I'm glad I can still use the forums....
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:00:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
> From: sebbaz@gmail.com
> To: user@commons.apache.org
>
> On 9 September 2014 20:52, Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to bother the "Commons Users List" but is it possible for someone to add me to the Shiro Mailing list? I have been having issues getting the email confirmation to work, for some reason it worked for this one, which I'm glad; however after trying it again, Shiro is still not working for me it seems. I tried all of the methods on the email, and even tried posting in the users forum, but nothing....
> >
> > If someone could add me I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.
>
> Only a moderator for the Shiro mailing list in question can do
> anything other than what you can do yourself.
> They are unlikely to be found here.
>
> Are you sure that you are sending the mail to
>
> user-subscribe@shiro.apache.org
>
> And are you sure that you are sending plain text?
> And have you checked your SPAM folder for the confirmation request?
> And have you replied to the confirmation request?
>
> You can also raise a bug request with Shiro.
>
> >> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:24:59 +0100
> >> From: markt@apache.org
> >> To: user@commons.apache.org
> >> Subject: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files other than the ones in the form?
> >>
> >> On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> >> > and it didn't take.
> >>
> >> Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
> >> doesn't work, contact infra.
> >>
> >> There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
> >> far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
> >>
> >> I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
> >> repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
> >> behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
> >> continued so the community banned them.
> >>
> >> In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
> >> banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
> >> to step in and deal with the moderator.
> >>
> >> Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
> >> getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
> >> project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
> >> as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
> >> response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
> >>
> >> If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
> >> is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
> >> less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
> >> mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 9 September 2014 20:52, Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry to bother the "Commons Users List" but is it possible for someone to add me to the Shiro Mailing list? I have been having issues getting the email confirmation to work, for some reason it worked for this one, which I'm glad; however after trying it again, Shiro is still not working for me it seems. I tried all of the methods on the email, and even tried posting in the users forum, but nothing....
>
> If someone could add me I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.
Only a moderator for the Shiro mailing list in question can do
anything other than what you can do yourself.
They are unlikely to be found here.
Are you sure that you are sending the mail to
user-subscribe@shiro.apache.org
And are you sure that you are sending plain text?
And have you checked your SPAM folder for the confirmation request?
And have you replied to the confirmation request?
You can also raise a bug request with Shiro.
>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:24:59 +0100
>> From: markt@apache.org
>> To: user@commons.apache.org
>> Subject: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files other than the ones in the form?
>>
>> On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
>> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
>> > and it didn't take.
>>
>> Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
>> doesn't work, contact infra.
>>
>> There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
>> far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
>>
>> I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
>> repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
>> behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
>> continued so the community banned them.
>>
>> In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
>> banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
>> to step in and deal with the moderator.
>>
>> Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
>> getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
>> project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
>> as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
>> response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
>>
>> If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
>> is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
>> less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
>> mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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>>
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[OT] - Can anyone add me to the Shiro mailing list?
Posted by Konrad Zuse <th...@hotmail.com>.
I'm sorry to bother the "Commons Users List" but is it possible for someone to add me to the Shiro Mailing list? I have been having issues getting the email confirmation to work, for some reason it worked for this one, which I'm glad; however after trying it again, Shiro is still not working for me it seems. I tried all of the methods on the email, and even tried posting in the users forum, but nothing....
If someone could add me I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:24:59 +0100
> From: markt@apache.org
> To: user@commons.apache.org
> Subject: [OT] Re: [fileupload] - Question about uploading additional files other than the ones in the form?
>
> On 08/09/2014 18:06, Dave Newton wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> [...] banned from the Tomcat users mailing list [...]
> >
> >
> > Is there official Apache precedence for this? I tried that on the S2 list
> > and it didn't take.
>
> Technically, unsub them from user@ and sub them to user-deny@. If that
> doesn't work, contact infra.
>
> There isn't an official position on how to handle this sort of issue as
> far as I know. It is left to the community to decide.
>
> I've seen it happen a few times. In each case the banned person ignored
> repeated requests both privately and publicly to correct their
> behaviour, they were warned would would happen if they continued, they
> continued so the community banned them.
>
> In theory you could have a moderator get all dictatorial and start
> banning people for trivial stuff. In that case I'd expect the community
> to step in and deal with the moderator.
>
> Unless the community got very disfunctional, I don't see the board
> getting involved at all. I will say in all the cases I am aware of the
> project did include a note in their next board report as it was viewed
> as an unusual enough action to highlight to the board. The board
> response in all cases was "Fine. Carry on."
>
> If you have a determined troll then blocking them from the mailing list
> is unlikely to be effective. On the other hand, blocking an idiot takes
> less effort than creating a new e-mail account and subscribing to the
> mailing list so that is a game I'm happy to play if necessary.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
>
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