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Posted to user-java@ibatis.apache.org by Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/16 14:28:36 UTC
iBATIS in Action errata
Hello,
Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
Thanks,
Ted
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Nathan Maves <na...@gmail.com>.
I found a real gem and let Brandon know. I will submit it if we find out
how.
On 3/18/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
> on the next page with the next paragraph.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> >
> > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about a
> > section for that and post it back here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and references
> > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoran,
I replied to your rating, which is your rating, so don't change it unless
you truly feel that you should.
For the rest of the list readers, here's what I had to say:
http://tinyurl.com/ysobae
While it may seem simple, I don't think there's anything missing. It's just
simple, like iBATIS itself. ;-)
Cheers,
Clinton*
*
On 3/19/07, Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't mean it to me that harsh. I love iBatis. I really do.
>
> It's just when a book starts to gather dust after just a couple of weeks
> you
> have to question its value. As I said in the review, the book faces stiff
> competition from a great online user guide to begin with. The great
> documentation (user guide and tutorial) are one of the reasons for the
> success of iBatis.
>
> My thoughts are that the manning book needed to cater to a different
> audience, not beginners, and also look at integration in common deployment
> environments struts, spring, etc.
>
> So, I apologise for the two stars and I will change it to 3 as I don't
> think
> any more are appropriate.
>
> Z.
>
> > Thanks for the feedback Ted.
> >
> > Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know
> how
> > to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
> >
> > We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh
> star
> > rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
> > "too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
> >
> > Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but
> don't
> > post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > Clinton
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Well, at least you didn't use the phrase "too hard for toilet paper",
so we have that going for us.
:-)
Larry
On 3/19/07, Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
> I didn't mean it to me that harsh. I love iBatis. I really do.
>
> It's just when a book starts to gather dust after just a couple of weeks you
> have to question its value. As I said in the review, the book faces stiff
> competition from a great online user guide to begin with. The great
> documentation (user guide and tutorial) are one of the reasons for the
> success of iBatis.
>
> My thoughts are that the manning book needed to cater to a different
> audience, not beginners, and also look at integration in common deployment
> environments struts, spring, etc.
>
> So, I apologise for the two stars and I will change it to 3 as I don't think
> any more are appropriate.
>
> Z.
>
> > Thanks for the feedback Ted.
> >
> > Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know how
> > to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
> >
> > We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh star
> > rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
> > "too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
> >
> > Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but don't
> > post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > Clinton
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com>.
I didn't mean it to me that harsh. I love iBatis. I really do.
It's just when a book starts to gather dust after just a couple of weeks you
have to question its value. As I said in the review, the book faces stiff
competition from a great online user guide to begin with. The great
documentation (user guide and tutorial) are one of the reasons for the
success of iBatis.
My thoughts are that the manning book needed to cater to a different
audience, not beginners, and also look at integration in common deployment
environments struts, spring, etc.
So, I apologise for the two stars and I will change it to 3 as I don't think
any more are appropriate.
Z.
> Thanks for the feedback Ted.
>
> Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know how
> to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
>
> We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh star
> rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
> "too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
>
> Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but don't
> post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Clinton
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Manning will be putting an "Errata" link on the book website. I'll keep an
eye on it to ensure that it happens promptly.
Clinton
On 3/19/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Clinton,
>
> Ha; I'll be sure to post a review on Amazon once I finish the book.
>
> Ted
>
> On 19/03/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the feedback Ted.
> >
> > Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know
> how
> > to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
> >
> > We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh
> star
> > rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
> > "too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
> >
> > Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but
> don't
> > post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > Clinton
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've only made it to page 95 so far. I haven't found anything nearly
> > > as bad/weird as the 149-150 disconnect.
> > >
> > > The worst thing I've found so far is the <procedure> entry in Table
> > > 4.3 (page 87) telling me that Section 5.5 can be found in Chapter 8.
> > >
> > > I've been marking my findings; I'll submit them to Manning once they
> > > get things situated.
> > >
> > > With that out of the way, I'm finding the text very readable. I also
> > > appreciate the pragmatic advice that only comes with experience, such
> > > as the bit about skinny data models. The following excerpt from
> > > section 2.3.4 "Separation of concerns" really hits home because I
> > > inherited four or five "Model 1" JSP web apps a couple of years ago,
> > > and have just inherited another one:
> > >
> > > "We've all seen the nasty applications with database connections and
> > > statements in JSP pages, results being iterated over, and HTML in
> > > between it all. It's truly nightmarish."
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > On 18/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> > > > 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and
> resumes
> > > > on the next page with the next paragraph.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> > > > >
> > > > > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning
> about
> > a
> > > > > section for that and post it back here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Clinton
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and
> > references
> > > > > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with
> the
> > > > > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ted
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find
> something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Larry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I
> prodded
> > > > > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ted
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com>.
Hi Clinton,
Ha; I'll be sure to post a review on Amazon once I finish the book.
Ted
On 19/03/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Ted.
>
> Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know how
> to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
>
> We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh star
> rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
> "too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
>
> Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but don't
> post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Clinton
>
>
> On 3/19/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've only made it to page 95 so far. I haven't found anything nearly
> > as bad/weird as the 149-150 disconnect.
> >
> > The worst thing I've found so far is the <procedure> entry in Table
> > 4.3 (page 87) telling me that Section 5.5 can be found in Chapter 8.
> >
> > I've been marking my findings; I'll submit them to Manning once they
> > get things situated.
> >
> > With that out of the way, I'm finding the text very readable. I also
> > appreciate the pragmatic advice that only comes with experience, such
> > as the bit about skinny data models. The following excerpt from
> > section 2.3.4 "Separation of concerns" really hits home because I
> > inherited four or five "Model 1" JSP web apps a couple of years ago,
> > and have just inherited another one:
> >
> > "We've all seen the nasty applications with database connections and
> > statements in JSP pages, results being iterated over, and HTML in
> > between it all. It's truly nightmarish."
> >
> > Indeed.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > On 18/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> > > 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
> > > on the next page with the next paragraph.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> > > >
> > > > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about
> a
> > > > section for that and post it back here.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Clinton
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and
> references
> > > > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > > > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ted
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the feedback Ted.
Although we're working on finding out how to submit errata, we do know how
to submit reviews on Amazon.... ;-)
We only have one review which has fair comments, but an unusually harsh star
rating based on those comments (similar comments about other books being
"too simple" still usually fetch 3 - 4 stars, not 2). ;-)
Anyway...please be sure to post your honest feedback on amazon (but don't
post errata there, Amazon didn't edit the book). ;-)
Thanks much.
Clinton
On 3/19/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've only made it to page 95 so far. I haven't found anything nearly
> as bad/weird as the 149-150 disconnect.
>
> The worst thing I've found so far is the <procedure> entry in Table
> 4.3 (page 87) telling me that Section 5.5 can be found in Chapter 8.
>
> I've been marking my findings; I'll submit them to Manning once they
> get things situated.
>
> With that out of the way, I'm finding the text very readable. I also
> appreciate the pragmatic advice that only comes with experience, such
> as the bit about skinny data models. The following excerpt from
> section 2.3.4 "Separation of concerns" really hits home because I
> inherited four or five "Model 1" JSP web apps a couple of years ago,
> and have just inherited another one:
>
> "We've all seen the nasty applications with database connections and
> statements in JSP pages, results being iterated over, and HTML in
> between it all. It's truly nightmarish."
>
> Indeed.
>
> Ted
>
> On 18/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> > 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
> > on the next page with the next paragraph.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> > >
> > > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about
> a
> > > section for that and post it back here.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Clinton
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and
> references
> > > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ted
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Nathan Maves <na...@gmail.com>.
Check out pg 294-5.
In Listing 13.5 we define a method called getValidatedPerson().
But in the test case in Listing 13.6 we call
service.isPersonalInformationValid(). Not only is this the wrong method but
we do not capture the return value. All in all the test case is just
confusing.
Nathan
On 3/19/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've only made it to page 95 so far. I haven't found anything nearly
> as bad/weird as the 149-150 disconnect.
>
> The worst thing I've found so far is the <procedure> entry in Table
> 4.3 (page 87) telling me that Section 5.5 can be found in Chapter 8.
>
> I've been marking my findings; I'll submit them to Manning once they
> get things situated.
>
> With that out of the way, I'm finding the text very readable. I also
> appreciate the pragmatic advice that only comes with experience, such
> as the bit about skinny data models. The following excerpt from
> section 2.3.4 "Separation of concerns" really hits home because I
> inherited four or five "Model 1" JSP web apps a couple of years ago,
> and have just inherited another one:
>
> "We've all seen the nasty applications with database connections and
> statements in JSP pages, results being iterated over, and HTML in
> between it all. It's truly nightmarish."
>
> Indeed.
>
> Ted
>
> On 18/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> > 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
> > on the next page with the next paragraph.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> > >
> > > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about
> a
> > > section for that and post it back here.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Clinton
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and
> references
> > > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ted
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com>.
I've only made it to page 95 so far. I haven't found anything nearly
as bad/weird as the 149-150 disconnect.
The worst thing I've found so far is the <procedure> entry in Table
4.3 (page 87) telling me that Section 5.5 can be found in Chapter 8.
I've been marking my findings; I'll submit them to Manning once they
get things situated.
With that out of the way, I'm finding the text very readable. I also
appreciate the pragmatic advice that only comes with experience, such
as the bit about skinny data models. The following excerpt from
section 2.3.4 "Separation of concerns" really hits home because I
inherited four or five "Model 1" JSP web apps a couple of years ago,
and have just inherited another one:
"We've all seen the nasty applications with database connections and
statements in JSP pages, results being iterated over, and HTML in
between it all. It's truly nightmarish."
Indeed.
Ted
On 18/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
> 149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
> on the next page with the next paragraph.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
> >
> > Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about a
> > section for that and post it back here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and references
> > > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Heh, I was reading over it this weekend, and saw a good one on pages
149-150. It just sort of stops in the middle of a sentence and resumes
on the next page with the next paragraph.
Larry
On 3/18/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
>
> Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about a
> section for that and post it back here.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
>
> On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and references
> > to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> > code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors < lmeadors@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader < teds.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Chalk that up to editing! Whooho!
Just kidding. Karma will get me for that. ;-) I'll ask Manning about a
section for that and post it back here.
Cheers,
Clinton
On 3/18/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and references
> to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
> code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
>
> Ted
>
> On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ted
> > >
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, a few things; mostly minor typos in explanations and references
to wrong section numbers. I haven't found anything wrong with the
code, but I'm only up to chapter 5.
Ted
On 16/03/07, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> > manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ted
> >
>
Re: iBATIS in Action errata
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Not that I am aware of...not yet anyway. Did you find something?
Larry
On 3/16/07, Ted Schrader <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does the book have an errata listing/submission page? I prodded
> manning.com a bit but couldn't find much.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
>