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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Matthias Wessendorf <mw...@gmail.com> on 2005/04/20 17:12:48 UTC
[OT] ADF Dialog Framework
FYI
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/index.html
(was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
HTH,
Matthias
Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk>.
Hi Everybody,
There is no official information about future (final) ADF Faces
licensing on the main Oracle JSF website pages for many months.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/jsf.html
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/partners/addins/exchange/jsf/index.html
You see only big red button FREE DOWNLOAD.
I have been monitoring EA10 - EA13, but i am really unsatisfied and
irritated now.
In our country we say "pull one’s nose", english translation idiom is
likely "pull one’s leg".
Bye
Jozef Hribik
Jonas Jacobi wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I'm sorry that the message has been confusing or frustrating (even for
> me), but as Matt said. ADF Faces is part of the JDeveloper/ADF
> package, which license is currently $995. ADF Faces, as you probably
> know, is still not production and as such does not currently "land" in
> the license swamp and as such is free to use, but as soon as we go
> production they will follow what ever license term comes with
> JDeveloper and ADF.
>
> One of the reasons why we have not talked much about this is that we
> have proposed a new license to upper management and have been waiting
> for approval, and believe me when I say that these things take
> forever. There are so many things to take in account before something
> like this can get approved e.g. legal, current customers etc...
>
> Thanks
> - Jonas
> ADF Faces team
>
>
> Matt Raible wrote:
>
>> At TSSS, I talked to one of the Oracle guys and he said their license
>> was basically $1000 to use in production. You get ADF Faces for free
>> when you buy a copy of JDeveloper ($1000).
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>
>>> Jozef,
>>>
>>> hey... cool down!
>>>
>>> Oracle tests MyFaces. So why not *telling* you guys about Oracle stuff.
>>>
>>> The licensing will be come out on JavaOne or so, I guess.
>>>
>>> Perhaps, here comes an announcement on something like that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On 4/20/05, Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi MyFaces fans,
>>>>
>>>> DO NOT HELP ORACLE TO TEST THEIR ADF-FACES !!!
>>>> Nobody from Oracle guys can answer my BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE
>>>> LICENSE
>>>> OF ADF FACES ?!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jozef
>>>>
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/
>>>>> index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> (was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
>>>>>
>>>>> also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Jonas Jacobi <jo...@oracle.com>.
Hi Everybody,
I'm sorry that the message has been confusing or frustrating (even for
me), but as Matt said. ADF Faces is part of the JDeveloper/ADF package,
which license is currently $995. ADF Faces, as you probably know, is
still not production and as such does not currently "land" in the
license swamp and as such is free to use, but as soon as we go
production they will follow what ever license term comes with JDeveloper
and ADF.
One of the reasons why we have not talked much about this is that we
have proposed a new license to upper management and have been waiting
for approval, and believe me when I say that these things take forever.
There are so many things to take in account before something like this
can get approved e.g. legal, current customers etc...
Thanks
- Jonas
ADF Faces team
Matt Raible wrote:
> At TSSS, I talked to one of the Oracle guys and he said their license
> was basically $1000 to use in production. You get ADF Faces for free
> when you buy a copy of JDeveloper ($1000).
>
> Matt
>
> On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
>> Jozef,
>>
>> hey... cool down!
>>
>> Oracle tests MyFaces. So why not *telling* you guys about Oracle stuff.
>>
>> The licensing will be come out on JavaOne or so, I guess.
>>
>> Perhaps, here comes an announcement on something like that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matthias
>>
>> On 4/20/05, Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi MyFaces fans,
>>>
>>> DO NOT HELP ORACLE TO TEST THEIR ADF-FACES !!!
>>> Nobody from Oracle guys can answer my BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE
>>> LICENSE
>>> OF ADF FACES ?!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jozef
>>>
>>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/
>>>> index.html
>>>>
>>>> (was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
>>>>
>>>> also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
>>>>
>>>> http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>
>
Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Matt Raible <li...@raibledesigns.com>.
At TSSS, I talked to one of the Oracle guys and he said their license
was basically $1000 to use in production. You get ADF Faces for free
when you buy a copy of JDeveloper ($1000).
Matt
On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> Jozef,
>
> hey... cool down!
>
> Oracle tests MyFaces. So why not *telling* you guys about Oracle stuff.
>
> The licensing will be come out on JavaOne or so, I guess.
>
> Perhaps, here comes an announcement on something like that.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthias
>
> On 4/20/05, Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk> wrote:
>> Hi MyFaces fans,
>>
>> DO NOT HELP ORACLE TO TEST THEIR ADF-FACES !!!
>> Nobody from Oracle guys can answer my BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE
>> LICENSE
>> OF ADF FACES ?!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jozef
>>
>> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/
>>> index.html
>>>
>>> (was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
>>>
>>> also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
>>>
>>> http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <mw...@gmail.com>.
Jozef,
hey... cool down!
Oracle tests MyFaces. So why not *telling* you guys about Oracle stuff.
The licensing will be come out on JavaOne or so, I guess.
Perhaps, here comes an announcement on something like that.
Thanks,
Matthias
On 4/20/05, Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk> wrote:
> Hi MyFaces fans,
>
> DO NOT HELP ORACLE TO TEST THEIR ADF-FACES !!!
> Nobody from Oracle guys can answer my BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE LICENSE
> OF ADF FACES ?!
>
> Thanks
> Jozef
>
> Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
> >FYI
> >
> >http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/index.html
> >
> >(was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
> >
> >also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
> >
> >http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
> >
> >HTH,
> >Matthias
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Jozef Hribik <jo...@apsoft.sk>.
Hi MyFaces fans,
DO NOT HELP ORACLE TO TEST THEIR ADF-FACES !!!
Nobody from Oracle guys can answer my BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE LICENSE
OF ADF FACES ?!
Thanks
Jozef
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>FYI
>
>http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/index.html
>
>(was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
>
>also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
>
>http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
>
>HTH,
>Matthias
>
>
>
>
Re: [OT] ADF Dialog Framework
Posted by Duong BaTien <du...@gmail.com>.
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>FYI
>
>http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/101/howtos/adfdialog/index.html
>
>(was also topic in Duncan Mills's WebLog from GroundSide)
>
>also very interestin is Jonas' Blog
>
>http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi/
>
>HTH,
>Matthias
>
>
>
Thanks Matthias. Interesting article and the Blog.
I have been working with Shale DialogController and like its clean
concept to separate the Jsf standard from extension. But you have to
wire your own logic in actionListener. Many more interesting things may
come out from its integration with ViewController, Spring and HiveMond
works.
We all need a solid "process" framework and state engine that compliment
BPEL. Hope myfaces Jsf components will play a role in this bigger
picture :-).
BaTien
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