RE: jlink in JavaFX project - Dart Board Link

[Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>]

Sorry, dart board didn’t come thru. You can get it here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NtHcUOW4MWkE5kE5FE1_lQvw-K4oTxjd?usp=sharing


-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca> 
Sent: May 30, 2020 2:41 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: jlink in JavaFX project

Too much command line for my liking. 

Dart board with my photo attached.

Ken




-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Sent: May 30, 2020 2:35 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: jlink in JavaFX project

Maybe read this:

https://medium.com/azulsystems/using-jlink-to-build-java-runtimes-for-non-modular-applications-9568c5e70ef4

Gj

On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 20:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:

> What happened when you put “jlink netbeans” into Google search? I see 
> lots of articles...
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 20:26, Kenneth Fogel 
> <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the info. jpackage was first fxpackage, then became 
>> jpackage, then was dropped when FX was dropped, and then just 
>> returned. One of its uses was to create installable packages, either 
>> exe, dmg or whatever your flavour of Linux needs.
>>
>> I am not fond of CLI, I believe my picture is on dart boards of Linux 
>> aficionados everywhere 😊. I believe your CLI suggestion is using the 
>> system installed Java runtime on your system and not the jlink Java 
>> runtime. On my system if I went into the image folder I could get it 
>> to run with the jlink rather than system Java with "bin\java 
>> com.mycompany.test2.App". The old Shade plugin could do that but it 
>> required Java installed. I thought jlink working with jpackage could 
>> do that.
>>
>> Answering your email forced me to looking into the image folder. 
>> Hiding in a file called modules in the lib folder is your code. So 
>> when you enter "bin\java com.mycompany.test2.App" Its pulling the 
>> code from the images\lib\modules. Therefore it does not depend on the 
>> presence of a system Java. What I am not sure of is whether or not 
>> this image will work on a Mac or Linux, my guess is it won't.
>>
>> So it all comes back to what is the purpose of jlink if it doesn't 
>> also create something that allows you to run your code with a single 
>> command on the command line or as a clickable file in a GUI system. I 
>> appreciate that it creates an instance of Java that can run your code 
>> without needing to download Java first. It feels like NetBeans is not 
>> completing the task by just using jlink. As always I assume the 
>> misunderstanding of its purpose is my fault.
>>
>> Bringing this back to NetBeans, I think that generated code should 
>> include comments that either explain the purpose or provide a link to 
>> documentation that explains it. I think that jlink is an incomplete 
>> solution and that should be explained. Could explain why modules 
>> still have not caught on. Now I will crawl back under my rock.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com>
>> Sent: May 30, 2020 1:47 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: jlink in JavaFX project
>>
>> On 5/30/2020 9:41 AM, Kenneth Fogel wrote:
>> >
>> > This is a more general question. NB 12 b6 now has a jlink option 
>> > for the JavaFX Simple project. Cool, I haven’t used this feature of 
>> > Java yet. As the module-info.java file did not indicate what to 
>> > include or exclude (remember I don’t know how to use jlink) I 
>> > believe that what was generated in the target/image folder was the equivalent of a JRE.
>> > I make this assumption because the folder is 60 mb in size. Heck, I 
>> > just searched thru the image and found keytool.exe. I should ask 
>> > the jlink group at Oracle about this. My ignorance is on display.
>> >
>> > So here is my question. Without jpackage creating an executable 
>> > package what is the value of jlink?
>> >
>> I'm not sure what you're looking for, or what jdk you're running, and 
>> I don't know anything about jpackage other than what I can intuit 
>> from the name. I think it's recent,
>>
>>     There is: jdk-14.0.1/bin/jpackage.exe.
>>
>> Also in case you're not aware, you can cd 
>> <project.directory>/target/image/bin and then, assuming your package 
>> is org.play.proj and the main class is App, run your app by doing
>>
>>     ./java org.play.proj.App
>>
>> -ernie
>> >
>> > To everyone who is working on NB you have my utmost respect. You 
>> > are doing amazing work. I’ll be doing a Jakarta EE tech talk at the 
>> > Eclipse foundation on June 9 at 11 AM DST and I will be using 
>> > NetBeans (they know I will be).
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>>
>>
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