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Posted to dev@toree.apache.org by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> on 2016/04/01 17:23:08 UTC
Toree Releases and other ASF issues, was Re: Toree Installation
With my "mentor hat" on, I wonder how come we are advertising this as the
official way to install Apache Toree, without having an official Apache
Toree release ?
To me, this is a big problem, first because this hasn't gone via any
release review, and we already know we have ASL2.0 incompatible licenses
with Toree. We have been granted permission to work on a release with
proper disclaimers, but I believe none of these disclaimers are in place
yet.
Also, when I lookup Toree in Pypi https://pypi.python.org/pypi/toree, the
stats seems more of a regular release (then just something that a dev would
try to check something with the latest code). They also don't get updated
nightly, which also gives the impression of stability that is available
with a release.
- *Downloads (All Versions):*
- 84 downloads in the last day
- 335 downloads in the last week
- 1307 downloads in the last month
I would really just ask to remove any non-release available artifacts
related to Toree, but I would compromise if we make the necessary
adjustments on the documentation and other sites to denote the "SNAPSHOT"
type of release, and mention this is not an official release. And that we
make the top priority of the community to make a release in the next few
weeks.
Thanks
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pypi
>
> Gino B.
>
> > On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, April 1, 2016, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pip installs downloads Toree
> >
> >
> > Dowloads it from where?
> >
> >
> >> Jupiter Toree install - installs Toree as a kernel on your Jupyter
> >> installation.
> > How does it know what to install, is there a descriptor in jupiter ? Or
> it
> > reads it from toree ?
> >
> >
> >> Gino B.
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was going trough the READ.me and found various steps like
> >>>
> >>> pip install toree
> >>> jupyter toree install
> >>>
> >>> As I am not so familiar with Jupyter, could someone please give me more
> >>> details about what is happening under the covers when I invoke these
> two
> >>> commands to install Jupyter and Toree ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Luciano Resende
> >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my Mobile device
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Toree Releases and other ASF issues, was Re: Toree Installation
Posted by Gino Bustelo <gi...@bustelos.com>.
@Luciano
>We have been granted permission to work on a release with
proper disclaimers, but I believe none of these disclaimers are in place
yet.
What are the proper disclaimers? Can you find out? It would be great if you
submit a PR.
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Gino Bustelo <gi...@bustelos.com> wrote:
> Luciano,
>
> We can update our README, that is no problem. But consider that what we
> are putting in Pypi has a "dev" suffix, the convention on that site that is
> analogous to a "SNAPSHOT" suffix.
>
> I consider this as part of working on a release, since pip installation is
> the preferred way that the Jupyter community installs extensions. Also,
> many of those stats are mainly us running tests.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With my "mentor hat" on, I wonder how come we are advertising this as the
>> official way to install Apache Toree, without having an official Apache
>> Toree release ?
>>
>> To me, this is a big problem, first because this hasn't gone via any
>> release review, and we already know we have ASL2.0 incompatible licenses
>> with Toree. We have been granted permission to work on a release with
>> proper disclaimers, but I believe none of these disclaimers are in place
>> yet.
>>
>> Also, when I lookup Toree in Pypi https://pypi.python.org/pypi/toree, the
>> stats seems more of a regular release (then just something that a dev
>> would
>> try to check something with the latest code). They also don't get updated
>> nightly, which also gives the impression of stability that is available
>> with a release.
>>
>> - *Downloads (All Versions):*
>> - 84 downloads in the last day
>> - 335 downloads in the last week
>> - 1307 downloads in the last month
>>
>> I would really just ask to remove any non-release available artifacts
>> related to Toree, but I would compromise if we make the necessary
>> adjustments on the documentation and other sites to denote the "SNAPSHOT"
>> type of release, and mention this is not an official release. And that we
>> make the top priority of the community to make a release in the next few
>> weeks.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Pypi
>> >
>> > Gino B.
>> >
>> > > On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Pip installs downloads Toree
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dowloads it from where?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Jupiter Toree install - installs Toree as a kernel on your Jupyter
>> > >> installation.
>> > > How does it know what to install, is there a descriptor in jupiter ?
>> Or
>> > it
>> > > reads it from toree ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Gino B.
>> > >>
>> > >>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Luciano Resende <
>> luckbr1975@gmail.com
>> > >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I was going trough the READ.me and found various steps like
>> > >>>
>> > >>> pip install toree
>> > >>> jupyter toree install
>> > >>>
>> > >>> As I am not so familiar with Jupyter, could someone please give me
>> more
>> > >>> details about what is happening under the covers when I invoke these
>> > two
>> > >>> commands to install Jupyter and Toree ?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Luciano Resende
>> > >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> > >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Sent from my Mobile device
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
Re: Toree Releases and other ASF issues, was Re: Toree Installation
Posted by Gino Bustelo <gi...@bustelos.com>.
Luciano,
We can update our README, that is no problem. But consider that what we are
putting in Pypi has a "dev" suffix, the convention on that site that is
analogous to a "SNAPSHOT" suffix.
I consider this as part of working on a release, since pip installation is
the preferred way that the Jupyter community installs extensions. Also,
many of those stats are mainly us running tests.
Thanks
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> With my "mentor hat" on, I wonder how come we are advertising this as the
> official way to install Apache Toree, without having an official Apache
> Toree release ?
>
> To me, this is a big problem, first because this hasn't gone via any
> release review, and we already know we have ASL2.0 incompatible licenses
> with Toree. We have been granted permission to work on a release with
> proper disclaimers, but I believe none of these disclaimers are in place
> yet.
>
> Also, when I lookup Toree in Pypi https://pypi.python.org/pypi/toree, the
> stats seems more of a regular release (then just something that a dev would
> try to check something with the latest code). They also don't get updated
> nightly, which also gives the impression of stability that is available
> with a release.
>
> - *Downloads (All Versions):*
> - 84 downloads in the last day
> - 335 downloads in the last week
> - 1307 downloads in the last month
>
> I would really just ask to remove any non-release available artifacts
> related to Toree, but I would compromise if we make the necessary
> adjustments on the documentation and other sites to denote the "SNAPSHOT"
> type of release, and mention this is not an official release. And that we
> make the top priority of the community to make a release in the next few
> weeks.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pypi
> >
> > Gino B.
> >
> > > On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016, Gino Bustelo <lb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Pip installs downloads Toree
> > >
> > >
> > > Dowloads it from where?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Jupiter Toree install - installs Toree as a kernel on your Jupyter
> > >> installation.
> > > How does it know what to install, is there a descriptor in jupiter ? Or
> > it
> > > reads it from toree ?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Gino B.
> > >>
> > >>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> > >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I was going trough the READ.me and found various steps like
> > >>>
> > >>> pip install toree
> > >>> jupyter toree install
> > >>>
> > >>> As I am not so familiar with Jupyter, could someone please give me
> more
> > >>> details about what is happening under the covers when I invoke these
> > two
> > >>> commands to install Jupyter and Toree ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Luciano Resende
> > >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from my Mobile device
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>